What happened to Ryu in the SF2 tournament (Official wise)

What you say about Capcom not announcing the winner of SF2 may be true, but I’ll regard the rest of your post of Dhalsim winning the Tourney as the joke it was meant to be. People have gotten flamed for less.

Thank you for seeing it as the joke it was. I’m not sure why people would get flammed for saying a character won over another character, unless I said something else that could be offensive, if so I’m sorry. For the first and last time I’m going to point to my Junior Member status and say “I’m still trying to find my feet here. Need to see who can and can’t take a joke, or if jokes are even allowed.”

On an almost serious note though - didn’t a few people use the argument that no other endings required them winning the tournament except Guile? It just struck me as a rather odd thing to say when techically his family could of found him before he found Bison. Or if he needed a chance to kill him - did it really need to be right in the tourament fight? Or just as him going up to him (they would of had to fight of course but maybe not as part of the SFt)

I just find using ALL the endings as a strange way of working out what happened as I kinda thought they only happened if that particular Street Fighter happened to be the best of the best, even greater then mighty Bison, no hands down.

And because of Dhalsim’s ending. Honestly I know this isn’t really an issue as it was probably more of a joke ending… and I don’t think anyone actually believes Dhalsim would come out on top at the end. However his ending does have that stand thing in it.

Here:

(if its too big I’ll edit it to a link - scanned in from Eternal Challenge)

And as you see it sort of “requires” him to be the overal winner. Or at least get that picture taken.

waves hand And thats me honestly done and spent on this issue. I would of added the picture in the last post as an edit but there was already a reply so I didn’t. and I spent the time scanning it so I just had to use it.

Again: if there was (or is here) a “Flame worthy” comment I’m sorry.

If I saw Bison and Sagat posing for a picture like that after the tournament was over I’d probably pee my pants. :wink:

The new endings for all the characters that are official are in SF2 Revival and contradict all the old ones. Why these endings are not in SF Eternal are beyond me. Methinks Capcom seemed to care about storyline when Final Fight 1 and SF2 Revival came out, but I don’t think they care anymore seeing as how SF2 The Anniversary Edition doesn’t have the SF2 Revival endings, not even as a bonus.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Dhalsim the champion!!!

Dhalsim’s new SF2 Revival ending mentions nothing of him being the champion to my knowledge, although whatever the case, I think we can safely say that most of those endings with the character on the championship stand did not have the championship stand part happen, considering that although we don’t know EXACTLY when Akuma killed Bison, we do know it was “during” the tournament in some way, shape, or form (Bison was caught off guard) and thus Bison wouldn’t be there at the championship stand at second place like he’s depicted in those endings.

I prefer to think of it this way:

The entire Street Fighter plot is based on a series of conjectures made out of the specific characters’ personalities and histories. None of them really happened. The only ones that did happen were Ryu beat Sagat in SF1 and Chun Li brought down Shadowloo in SF2. Nothing important about SF3 will be confirmed officially until there is a SF4. The rest is either pre-SF history or active theory and nothing more.

What about Ken marrying Eliza?

It will happen without a doubt

The idea here is that I’m talking about main characters interacting with other main characters, aka the “main plot”. Since Eliza is not a main character, what Ken does with her is all contained in Ken’s character, and their marriage merely a background action. Likewise for Dhalsim and his family, Sakura and Kei, and so forth. But when we talk about two main characters like, say, Ryu and Ken, any in-game content that may come off as plot should be completely ignored. In Ryu’s history, he trained with Ken, but that doesn’t mean he ever fought with Ken during SF1, 2, or 3. It’s something that was intentionally left to the imagination, for good reason. The concept of “canon” invariably ruins that idea, which is why I don’t believe there is an official plot. Just characters.

So the inevitable conclusion from all this is whatever Ryu did in the SF2 tournament was up to the player. He could have defeated all 16 of the other characters or none of them. Regardless of what Ryu or anyone did, in SF3 we find Chun Li took down Shadowloo in the end. And that’s about as official as it needs to be.

What about Final Fight One proving that the in-game events with Cody and Guy in Alpha 3 happened? (or Alpha 3 proving that many in-game events in Alpha 2 happened, although that’s more contained within the Alpha series)

There’s also Alpha 3 depicting Evil Ryu hitting Sagat with the shoryuken in SF1.

The sad thing is:

If they follow the game… They wont have anything solid. If they dont follow the game… Then what?

I dont know, man. The more i think about it, the more SF disappoints me. When i played the game i could just pretend and ignore. But with the comic theres no way you can do that.

I assume theyll just make it into two stories, like the first arc. Ryu/Ken/Akuma/Sagat in one, Chun-li/Guile/Bison/Cammy on the other…

But how will be Ryu named champion? Akuma will kill Bison, then Ryu beats Akuma? Akuma is not even registered in the thing!

Ill just kick back and watch, i guess. This thing is too messy.

Why do the so-so KOF manhwa has the plot all lined-up by SNK and the SF comic has to deal with Capcoms crap?

KoF manhwa are official? That’s kinda interesting … or do you just mean that they have more story to go on directly from SNK games every year?

What’s a manwha?

Yea, all KOF games are based on a single tournament year after year, and the majority of KOF characters are either filler or there as sub or supporting characters in the plot to the main character team, with a few who have some storyline flavor but nothing really substantial (such as Geese’s antics throughout the Orochi storyline that are interesting but don’t really go anywhere). This makes it perfect for a comic book format. Since there’s really only one main character, it’s very easy to keep the thing focused. But Street Fighter has like, a lot of main characters who’s plots go in all directions only intersecting every once in a while. Even if you try to forcibly cram everything into just one ongoing plot, you’re still left with Ryu/Ken being segregated from Guile/Chun-Li for the most part.

…eh, I must have done the “SF game storyline/canon is not suited to a single series format” rant a million times now. So I think I’ll just end this post here. Oh yea, this is why I roll my eyes at people who said the comic was bad for not exactly following the games’ storyline. No single comic series could follow a storyline that branches off like Street Fighter’s does.

Since I’m too apathetic to bother searching for Final Fight One just to see what you’re talking about, could you just tell me what happened?

Basically, when you play as Alpha Cody and Alpha Guy, they reminisce about the past when they had to go fight through Mad Gear long ago in Final Fight 1 (since Alpha 3 takes place after Final Fight 1) and also refer to several events that happened with them in Alpha 3.

Strange…Both in that Dhalsim pic Cho posted and in Ryu’s SF2-SSF2 endings, Bison’s in 2nd place and Sagat’s in 3rd. Perhaps there’s some truth to that? Sure, a lunatic like Bison probably wouldn’t accept defeat and attend the award ceremony, but there’s a good chance he came in 2nd place. However, I didn’t think M. Bison actually participated in the tournament. I always assumed that he fought whoever was the last person standing among the other 15 characters (If that makes any sense). I dunno. It’s just a thought.

Hmm… since it’s somewhat implied that SF3 was done elimination style, I imagine SF2 was, too. Still, I also find it strange picturing Bison in an elimination style tournament just participating with all the other joe schmoes down there when I also really think of him as just fighting the last person standing. Although I guess that might explain why Sagat never got to fight Ryu and why Sagat wouldn’t care about losing the tournament before fighting Ryu (since I guess in this case, Bison eliminated Sagat or something, and losing to Bison wouldn’t be much of a blow to one’s pride because one could consider that Bison “cheats” seeing as to how many people look down on him for using Psycho Power).

There is one thing thats for sure though, Bison always gets killed in the end! Us Bison fans were the real ones that got screwed here! Raaaaarrrgh! :bluu:

I’m still pee’d at the SF2 movie where he can reflect hadokens back and teleport at will, yet a shoryuken and hurricane kick later he cant dodge or teleport or reflect two fireballs at once :rolleyes: I mean he doesn’t even TRY, he just gets knocked upside the head and straight into his fancy twin engined Spruce Goose!

Anyhoos, thats enough venting for Bison fans everywhere. :smiley:

P.S: You think thats why Capcom made SF3 Boss Gill unplayable? Because they’d have disgruntled Gill players beating their mirror self up to get their ending? :lol:

The problem is that the job description for all major fighting game villains quite clearly says “Must die a preferably fantastic death.”