Damn, thats sweetness:cool:
note: heās beasting people ābetterā than him with Vice/Chang because , well have you seen a Vice/Chang player ever? Exactly.
The guyās getting people with Y-Tai-Yo so much, itās not even funny.
Iāve also OCVd 2 People with Dhalsim, a low ass tier character.I donāt play Sim anymore because my CVS2 style of play changes weekly. I used to play sim when i was in the Turtle your ass off phase.
IMO Vice/Chang/Raiden are so underrated.
Hey, Raiden can be a bad ass. And Im assumeing heās in A/S/K.
To tell you the truth, I think Chang sucks in S. His dodge attacks are weak and he has no RCs. But K, at least, gives him easy Lv.3s.
Oops, I actually meant A/P/K
changes
this thread has taken quite a change ( thx for the advice epsilon )
with death`s post,
playing odd characters isnt so bad, and chang is kick ass, learning matchups is good, knowing other player combos is usfel, checking out some other character specific forum than your own can come in handy on that odd match up.
but you knowā¦ ITS ALL GOOD! 
Everyoneās a copy cat of everyone. be original, allways find something new.
YES, PLEASE DO, CBS is stupid
CBS isnāt stupid. Youāre stupid for losing to it so much. Calling good characters stupid because you lose is straight up scrubby. Use who you can win with is pretty much the #1 Rule of SF. Be it Sagat or Yuri, use who you are best with.
Having that said, is Yamazake, a good character to learn? I wanted to use him along with a female charatcer. I usually pic Mai, Maki, or Vice, but Iām still not sure who to pair him up with. Anybody got any reccomendations?
Yeah you can win with Yama.
Heās not top-tier though is he? Just curious, TondaShocka says Sagat could own Yamazaki easy, but I donāt believe it.
No, heās not top tier, but he is upper-mid. Iāve heard Viscant saying that Sagat and Yama go about even, but I donāt know about thatā¦ I do know that he goes pretty well against Blanka though.
If you like the mix ups, Maki, runaway/zone/rushdown Mai, and if you can play vice, go for it. Iād perfer Mai because i think sheās top tier, sheās like a dark horse, sheās underrated, sheās also a little braindead easy to learn and use.
and CBS isnāt stupid. though i like to be original, i like playing CBS because they are just fun to play with. I donāt think beginners should go to CBS automatically because once u go to other characters, you will realize you are nothing without your high priority attacks. if you go the hard way, youāll learn fast. Unless you really like CBS because of their looks or something, new players shouldnāt go for them. I suggest playing characters you like because of their character designs or fighting style. i used to be a CBS player until i realized that after looking at the SBO results, only Ino was the only one who used CBS in the top 5 or something like that, and every japanese player used freaking odd looking teams like Maki/Dhalsim/Rolento, Ken/Iori/Blah, Mai/Morrigan/Chunli??.
What iām saying is, CBS and Team BAS is overrated, but it seems like everyone in japan has mad dexterity, i notice this from their vids, so i guess that itās gonna be a bit harder to play with everyone else if you donāt have the mind games and the dexterity they have. but with practice, you can be like them or better.
Thanks for the info InVeRs3 and Epsilon. Yeah I kinda figured Maki might be good for runaway seeing as how one of her moves IS running. It kinda seems like a good way to pyche out the opponent by dashing very quickly towards then away. Sheās got one special move thatās horribly hard to pull off that you have to do in the air. And even if you pull it off the opponent canāt be blocking. Itās a cool move, but not worth the trouble. But yeah Iām going to try and get good with Mai. Iām okay with Vice, but I can get a lot better. You guys got any special teams you use?
I kinda have a team for almost every groove.
C-Blanka, Chun, Sagat2
A-Sak, Bison, Blanka
P-Kyo, Cammy, Sagat
S-Donāt really have oneā¦
N-Iori, Chun/Sagat, Blanka
K-Kyo, Sagat/Cammy, Blanka
No top player uses certain characters just for the sake of using them - they use the characters they do because they have something that they can do to win. Sim may not be top tier in CVS2 but he does have a few things that no one else can do, like pressure and guard crush the opponent from the other fucking side of the screen, if done correctly. He also has an interesting poking game in closer range, but I digress - the point is that heās got something that no one else can do better, and if the sim player plays the match so heās in a position to exploit that, he should be able to win with Sim in that circumstance. There might very well be some situations where Sim can pull off an easier win than Sagat - Sim players just need to find those setups out and exploit them. While Sagat, Sakura, Cammy, etc. may have more overall setups for victory, making them top tier, Sim still brings something to the game that they canāt.
That said, thereās absolutely no fucking reason to pick Ryo whatsoever. Heās a slow ass retarded shoto-clone with virtually no unique specials, shitty pokes, and his supers arenāt anything special either. If you want to play a shoto in A-groove, use Ken - he has a better DP, better pokes, is faster, and has an easier, better CC - or Iori (for the same reasons). If you want to be a little flashier, try Kyo. Seriously though, Ryo fucking sucks. There arenāt any situations where Ryo can win and Sagat canāt, unless your opponent is like āif you hit me with that retarded Crazy Hands attack, Iāll forfeitā.
Benimaru is different. While he does shit damage, heās got an easy crossover, a few easy bread and butter combos, some decent pokes, a few decent CCs and decent enough supers that if you play the game patiently you can get some damage in. Thanks to his faster speed and higher jump, the only crossup who can really rival his is Bisonās. Furthermore, Beniās c.mk can beat Sagatās c.fp and several other pokes, his sweep can be comboed into his Raijinken super if youāre fast enough, blah blah blahā¦thereās certainly room to win with Beni. Not quite as much as A-Sak, but itās there, unlike Ryo.
As for Yama - in the right groove, he can bring the pain pretty well. Range is crucial with him, though.
He also has a scrubbily fun roll-super game, because his two supers can get you almost regardless of what you do.
If you think using CBS is ādumbā or whatever, because you lack brains, try the following characters:
Geese, Yamazaki, Kyo, Iori, Ryu, Chun Li, Ken, Akuma, Vega, Todo
These characters are competitive, and if you use them you wonāt win consistentlyā¦ I mean, you wonāt be seen as cheap
I agree with what Mr Great said, too.
CBS isnāt even cheap. CBS is a little easier to pick up than other teamsā¦ but that doesnāt mean they are the be all and end all. Hellā¦ I think Sagat/Blanka/Chun2 and Guile/Chun/Sagat are both better than CBS in C. Team Shoto is the bestest team:D ā¦ as long the opponent doesnāt have Sagatā¦ heheā¦ then your just going to weather the stormā¦ and hope you can kill off the other chars badly enough that Sagat is too far to make a comeback.
EDITā¦ Geese is very annoying char to fight IMO if you donāt have Sagat or someone who is a direct counter. Since he has a habit of dizzying way faster than people expect. One tripā¦ and 2 crossupsā¦ and you are dizzy.
Yeah, and you stright up have a better chance of winning if you use CBS cause there top teir :rolleyes:
And im not losing to CBS because werid anough no one uses CBS around here.