Since this sub-forum has been inexplicably hammered by shitty thread after shitty thread the time felt right for a thread that is hopefully less shitty.
What specifically do you do to get better?
For me; my goal has always been to be above average. Able to beat scrubs and give a tourney player a run for their money. In the last year I’ve been trying to level up a little more. No chance for SBO or anything, but you never know for the local scene.
What I do is go into Training Mode roughly a half hour to an hour every day or every other day. Depends on my work week. Watch Shend videos. Analyzing my matches has helped a little but I think I get more out of asking specialists for input. That and I take notes. I feel like writing things down and keeping some kind of record helps in evolving. Unlike writing Youtube comments and asking the same thing over and over and over again like a broken record. Desperate to get Likes in the process. What kind of insane lonely person would do such a thing I ask? **WHO I ASK YOU? **
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Well since I’m fairly new to the game (played it back in the day but since Online gaming didn’t exist for this game on PS2, I didn’t have anyone to practice and get better with and am basically coming back to the game fresh) my advice goes out to anyone who’s in a similar boat or new to this game altogether:
Don’t start off trying to parry everything and end up trying guess parry all the time since you’ll more than likely eat many-a-combo. Parrying a wake-up super or Ken DP my look cool, but if you’re not low on health or the timer is running out and you wanna try and get ahead before it runs out, then it’s better to just block and punish.
I just play for fun and there are no tournaments in my area, so I found just playing people is good. Occasionally I’ll look at match videos or tutorial videos to learn some ‘tricks’, but most of the time your opponent won’t behave in the way as the pro players and you’ll have you adapt to them not doing certain thing OR doing certain things (I’m looking at you wake-up super 100% of the time players).
When my stick wasn’t completely useless I practiced training mode at least an hour a day.
These days I try to at least watch a new video everyday*. I do spend a lot of time thinking and discussing 3s with friends which I think helps drill trivial knowledge. It helped me greatly having a teacher over the years, but I’ve also found it useful to myself when I’ve been able to help teach others since it reminds me of the things I should be doing. If you’re new I think one of the best things you can do is get a teacher!
*On the subject of videos, you never know what you might learn from random vids. I’ve been playing for 7 years and I learned something new from one of Renic’s primers the other day. As you get better imo little bits of knowledge gleaned from vids can make a big difference.
It depends of circumstances of course, how you can really progress and get better if you only have online to play? Nobody to play offline even after tried to convince some friends to play this game with you, and you will get that motivation for that?
Somewhere around an hour in training mode, mostly working on hit confirms and trying to expand my abilities. so reacting to pokes appropriately and things like that.
Playing offline with my buddy who is about as good as me. We’ve improved together over the last year and a half.
Watching all the videos in the 3s match vids thread.
Online play with gentlemen. Mostly I want to play with people who combine being good with playing like it’s offline, even if it isn’t. you can generally tell who has spent time playing this game offline and who hasn’t, just different habits.
Sometimes ranked too, but I don’t think I get much out of that at this point. Just killing time there.
Some people may think I’m being full of shit when I say that, but I honestly try not to give in to my fears. Part of my problem over the years was that I get WAY too defensive due to all the Q play. I mean I’m still a very defensive player, but I also like to mix in offense and parrying as well these days. I remember playing a set with ryan, his Yang against my Q. I managed to beat his Yang once, ONLY because for that moment, I tried “not giving a fuck” and red parried his EX Mantis into cl.MK->SA2. I beat him that one game. I’ll admit that I couldn’t keep that going and kept losing afterwards lol, but if I can maintain that train of thought I could seriously step up my overall game.
There was a time when I was playing consistently in Japan where I was parrying a lot more stuff than I could these days. Red parry Geneijin Shoulders, red-parry EX SBK, Shippu, whatever. Nowadays I don’t get as much practice so I’m kind of back to overly cautious(and also scrubby “reaction” Supers) play, but I will manage to get that funk out of my system eventually.
Yeah, I feel like in 3S if they get you to play defensively you’ve already lost. It’s very difficult to unlearn being on the defense and go against your instincts.
I enjoy to play defensively and it was hard for me to go to make an offense on 3S, still today not easy, i like to zone out my opponent, play footsies… and also play an okizeme game.
That what it makes Q hard to play : play with him need strong defense, strong basics, red parrying all stuff you need to win or you die…
I agree. Harder to classify because she’s a bit more balanced than Q, but her offense is mostly pokes and kara throws, with only 1 decent hit confirm that doesn’t hit low.
OTOH, she has her st.RH that is free throw escape like Chun, low hitbox, good backdash, decent anti air, good wakeup moves, and can punish hard. Also you can pick healing to play gay runaway. Good defensive tools.
Yes, she has a good okizeme with her quick overheads, some lows even if her lows are limited, kara throw etc… and do a pressure at the same range with all tools, just like Chun.
But to get the knockdown and to get the opponent cornered, it can be really hard so she will pokes a lot.
It’s not necessarily “defensive”, but like what pherai pointed out: playing “afraid”. You’re too scared to want to do anything, so you just sit there, holding downback all the time and blowing opportunities. It’s a bad mindset and what causes a lot of beginning and even intermediate players to lose out to like…ohhh I dunno, mediocre Yuns for example. Not dissing any Yun players, just saying the character does have weaknesses that not a lot of people can hide too well.