What characters have gotten the biggest nerf between two games?

[Ryo_Yamazaki]

What was it that made Sean a joke character?

Being a Negro.

[Biolink]

I know CvS2 is an arcade game among the lines of Marvel vs Capcom,and Street Fighter is a bit more realistic in the fighting game feel,but Yun stunk in CvS2.Felt very stiff,and no Genei-Jin=Loss

[Makoto_Scrub]

Talim SC2 -> SC3 (not that anybody cares about SC3, but it was just too obvious)

Good to see that other people know whats up with SC. :tup:

[Alucard20]

MvC 1 Wolverine (Adamantium) -> MvC2 Wolverine (Adamantium)

[1_2Man1_2God]

Being a Negro.

:woot:

[H-F_Blade]

Good to see that other people know whats up with SC. :tup:

SC2 Raphael -> SC3 Raphael. They took an already bad character and nerfed him even more. They took away the few good moves he had in SC2 and any possibility of mixups from his Prep Stance(only 1 instead of 4). <.<

[System_1]

Any version of Dan —> MSF Dan

Uh, no. MSF Dan is not a bad incarnation of Dan. His air throw and supers are really good. Worst would have to be A3 or SVC.

And to whoever said “Alex’s voice from 2i to 3s”, fuck you. 3s voices are infinitely superior to 2i’s in every way. Unless of course you like Yun and Yang to sound like retarded monkeys and Necro to sound like Rocky Balboa.

On topic:
Chun-Li MvC1 > MvC2
E.Honda ST > A3
Justice XX#R > XX/
Hulk MSH > MSF (on point, he’s a beast assist)
King/Yuri CvS1 > CvS2
Sean 2i > 3s
Bison CE > HF

[KryptoniteBoots]

kula oswald and gato from kof xi - kof xii…you know it’s coming

[Paolochun]

If it’s something like 2003 Duo to XI Duo it might not be all that bad. I hope.

[Makoto_Scrub]

SC2 Raphael -> SC3 Raphael. They took an already bad character and nerfed him even more. They took away the few good moves he had in SC2 and any possibility of mixups from his Prep Stance(only 1 instead of 4). <.<

I also feel that SC2 Yoshi -> SC3 Yoshi

His 1A was god-like… :shake:

[Panicked]

Being a Negro.

No, that wasn’t it. I think it was because he was half-Negro. Think about it. He’s only a shoto because he’s half-Japanese, he sucks because he’s half-Negro. Makes sense to me.

[spudlyff8fan]

Did anybody say Roboky from Reload to Slash?

[The_Granby]

Alot of these are exactly what I was wondering about. Thanks for the replies guys. Looking at the thread it seems that game devs just don’t like it when unorthodox characters reach a certain level of effectiveness (Lei, Whip, etc).

I wanted to put this one in my original post, but not too many people here talk about the DOA series.

What happened to Bass is arguably the worst nerf of all time. Heavyweights already have it hard in DoA 4. It sucks being slow in a game that’s all about speed, speed and more speed. Leon and Bayman got shafted bad, but at least they’re still playable. With Bass; everything, and I do mean everything was changed for the worse. Bass ran the show in DoA 3.x. In DoA 4 he’s got all the cons that come with being a slow, power hitter and none of the pros. It’s hard to top a nerf that makes a character go from top-tier to failed concept.

3S Hugo —> SvC Hugo is another one I wanted to mention, but I left it out seeing how the two games are made by different developers. Hugo is already kind of lacking in Third Strike, but in SvC he is almost unplayable.

Yeah Leon is my main, when I play him in Doa4 I wanna cry. He had so much potential in DoA3.1… no he’s kind well… bleh.

Bass is sad sad example. In 3.1 he did the most damage, in 4 he does very low damage, unless your lucky enough to catch a guy with a hi-counter blow (cause no ones gonna fall for Bass’s stuns). The took out hell stab launching, buffalo horn prority, back throw, his wake up game was made irrelevent, his air throw nerfed, fPK removed, THEY FREAKING TOOK OUT HIS DAMN RUNNING CATCH THROW.

Jesus, he wasn’t the only one. Basically the entire non-ninja top tier in DoA3.1 was nerfed beyond all repair. Jann, Leon, Bass all took a nerf dildo up the ass while Hayabusa and Hayate were beefed.

[white_shadow]

Kirby, Ness and Pika from SSB to Melee for sure.

This was the 1st post for a reason, G’Damn they were nerfed straight to hell.:shake:

[Virtua_Leon]

97 robert to 98 robert

any blue mary after 99 i was actually talking to somebody about this the other day I just ask myself WHY every damn kofpost 98.

98 ryo to 99 ryo

98 iori to 99 iori

Ss2 ukyo to ss3

zero 2 chun li to zero3

ss 5 hanzo to ss5sp (while yeah it’s not a complete raping i didn’t like the removal of df+c into Up B+C)

zero 2 ken to zero 3 ken

mizagouchi fighters fistory > to dynamite

ss5 genjuro to ss5sp i miss instant projectiles

hyper honda to SSF2 honda

turbo gief to ssf2 gief

RBS sokaku to RB2 sokaku

hong kong based jackie chan to the mid 90s austraila movie based chan to the american based chan

old school tranformers to armada

[EveryFlowerFlow]

3s voices are infinitely superior to 2i’s in every way.

Uh, no to you.

2i ken’s “Come On” > 3s ken

[HeartNana]

I also feel that SC2 Yoshi -> SC3 Yoshi

His 1A was god-like… :shake:

cept that SC2 Yoshi was aruguably the best character in the game. And if not the best, top 3 for sure. Raph is at the bottom of the barrel with Maxi and Yun in SC2, however.

[DAWOLF57]

MvC1 Chun -> MvC2 Chun, even if they didnt tone her down, she STILL wouldnt have really been THAT great compared to the power characters.

I kinda disagree, she’s got good mobility so she can run away. And she has a decent mixup game IMO so if they didn’t tone her down I can easily see her up in mid-tier, still not close to the top 4 but atleast hanging out with Sim, BlackHeart, Rouge and such.
But that’s just me…

[Donkus]

Akuma and Yang were nerfed, but they’re still Upper Tier in 3S. Which tells you how overpowered they were in 2I.

Yang was not overpowered in Second Impact.

And Alex does sound like MJ in that game.

[System_1]

No, that wasn’t it. I think it was because he was half-Negro. Think about it. He’s only a shoto because he’s half-Japanese, he sucks because he’s half-Negro. Makes sense to me.

Sean’s half Brazilian, not African. He ain’t no Negro.