Melee is more balanced than brawl+? How did you come to that conclusion?
I don’t see why people like it so much, I mean it gets patched/changed all the damn time by people all the time and it really just seems like melee with brawl characters. I mean I love the custom outfit mods and a couple of the weird stage stuff
I heard they are working on adding characters to the game but that sounds impossibly hard so I doubt it will ever get done, if it pulls through it could be mugen but with less suck though, and far less characters.
I really agree with some of the other posters above me I love other fighters but whenever I play brawl+ I go why arn’t I playing melee or if I want a combo fix, most other 2D fighters, I like brawl because of those “flaws” people say it has.
If you haven’t played it brawl+ is basically brawl, but some characters move a bit faster, and everyone has huge ass combos like the ones in melee but they feel more painful now cause when you get hit you are now like in hit stun for alot more time then you were in melee to make up for the fact that you arn’t as fast, its p. frustrating to be hit in brawl none the less and just be juggled without being able to effectively DI, dodge, attack, counter, jump, or really do anything.
Also it explained why this one other ZSS guy sucked so hard ZSS is so easy in B+, and he liked it better heh typical.
Meta Knight and Snake are practically in there own tiers, then you have characters like c.Falcon and his nerfed knee not able to do anything.
With Melee Marth and Fox are the best, but they are still beatable. Also the whole fighting system is faster and just more interesting to work with then brawl. Though dont get me wrong I will play brawl with my friends if they want me to. Though I just Melee is better for comp and casual.
This is about Brawl+, a hacked version of brawl. It seems your complaints are about normal Brawl.
Interesting, I was never a big fan of Melee(I like 64 & Brawl alot more), but it’s nice to see the community that felt they disliked some of the aspects of brawl, and change them to fit their taste.
Even though I don’t believe Meta/Snake are broken in brawl.
Yeah I have read up about this, they just better put in more hitstun to this brawl+ thing or I am not buying. The only problem is some characters might have the potential to become worse. Why Snake is going to get insane and Meta Knight even faster is crazy.
I feel that Brawl+ has more in common with Brawl and the original Smash Bros than it does with melee.
Metaknight did get more insane due to the addition of hitstun. The plan now is to nerf his damage output to balance him out a bit. The hitstun has been buffed up quite a bit which really helps out many of the other characters. Right now I am much more afraid of Luigi in brawl+ than I am of Snake.
They can reduce the damage output all they want and it still wouldn’t do a thing to MK. Brawl+ gave MK more tools oddly enough, and the fact that he can combo better than anyone else right now says he is still the best.
Lowering metaknight’s damage does do stuff to MK mainly because of the DI dependency of his combos. He usually gets follow ups after he hits but you can’t combo into anything you want to so his comboability is limited to a few hits. If the opponent DIs well the only move you’ll be able to follow up with is something that is not another combo set up. Luigi has better combos more reliable combos than MK in brawl+ overall.
The only real issues with Metaknight in brawl+ is his damage, maybe his knockback on a few moves, and his dair in some instances. I agree that right now he is the best in Brawl+, but once the damage is lowered and just a few other minor tweaks are made he will feel much more balanced into the rest of the cast.
Brawl+ is better then Brawl hands down. They removed tripping, added hitstun, and balanced the cast.
Taking control away from the player is a cardinal sin in fighting games, regular brawl does that with tripping. So therefore I can never take regular Brawl seriously as a competitive game. B+ is much better, and would rather play that in a tournament setting, mod or not.
But even with all the tweaks it’s hard to get hyped about this game over SF, BB, Tekken, and KOF.
Note: 2v2’s are fun as hell, but this game is just too random. 
I played it for about 2 months and thought it was amazing. Then I started playing Melee and other fighters a lot more and realized this game was crap.
it’s better than Brawl, sure, but it still sucks :V
Brawl+ is just a melee wannabe. There’s no arguing that. People were disappointed by little hit stun and cried for mommy immediately. As most pro level brawl could tell you, there may not be that many or great true combos, but the chains and mindgames you put together easily make the fact of little hitstun seem unimportant. From my person experience though, smash players that dislike brawl for it’s fighting system usually aren’t that good at melee either, the game they love. goes and pawns them with kirby (second to worst character in melee)
Yes there is. I argue with it all the time. After all, most of the system changes made in Brawl+ are much more akin to smash bros 64 than melee. Even so there are plenty of aspects just in those changes that have a lot of differences from the previous games. Dash dancing for example may have some similar functions but there are many differences.
Even so, the changes doesn’t make it every akin to melee in anyway. It is most similar to brawl with a little bit of ssb64, with some new aspects along with character balance. It really isn’t a melee wannabe game, there were some people trying to make it that but they branched off around January when they figured they wouldn’t get there way. There project faded away around February.
Tell me, how many times have you played Brawl+?
More like we tried to get used to the system change and just realized it sucked ass. To be honest, the hitstun wasn’t a big deal for me. But the hitstun does allow for better balancing along characters and more character diversity. Soon enough there will be more character specific hitstun for the game.
Most of the Brawl+ community were pro brawl players and many of them continue to be or have just recently gave it up for brawl+. These people know what they are doing when they play normal Brawl and they didn’t just give up on it right away and whine.
I personally think that Brawl+ is a waste of time. Why go through the hassle of modding you Wii, entering some super long code, just to tweak a few things? I say go play Melee. I could understand the fact that Brawl+ has online potential, but if they want a game like Melee go play Melee.
Good god…
I give 'em another year before the thing becomes Super Smash Bros Mugen.
…seriously.
You aren’t reading anything I said are you?
Plus you make it sound hard to mod your wii and load the Brawl+ file. Its all really easy.
It just doesn’t feel too good, imo.
I prefer playing it just normally.
If people are having fun playing it, I say more power to them. Whether it is a “melee-wannabe” or its own original things is pretty inconsequential. If people are having fun with it, it is a success it its own right.
B+ is basically a neutered melee. I much prefer Balanced Brawl, and I think that mod actually has a shot in a tourney environment.
What character did you try to play? I just want to know why you think this.
Sure. Whatever you say.