-- Weightlifting & Nutrition Thread -- v9.0 Optimized

If you eat a lot of protein while not lifting it will slow if not stop size/strength loss.

If you did lose anything you could get it back really quick like (muscle memory)

Hey, is 72 hot-rox for $20 a good deal???

I just started taking creatine monohydrate two weeks ago. How long does it take for results?

Iā€™d just like to thank you guys on your leg workout tips, I hit 275 on the squat rack the other day. A 20 lb gain from a couple weeks ago.

Im trying to figure out how long I should rest between workouts. I work my chest and abs on monday, but i usually wait until im not sore until I work them again, which is usually thursday or friday. Am I waiting too long?

Im down 10 more pounds after a week 1/2ā€¦DDR makes great cardio:tup:

Thatā€™s good. How much DDR have you been doing and at what settings?

All heavy. warm up with 6 -7 footers, then do 8-9 footers.
Id do 10 but would have to bar rape most which doesnā€™t count.

Ill do;

  1. R and P
  2. Drop Out
    3.Bag
    4.Exotic ethnic

Keep doing songs like this for 2-3 hours ( and eat lots of protein/ water)
for 3 days or more a week.

I do this at a movie theatre by the way, everyone thinks Im nuts.

2-3 hours? wtf? DDR is only good cardio if you play 4 Maxes / Survivor Max Onis in a row. I only play s4r DDR and s4ring stuff like R and P doesnā€™t really do cardio for me.Iā€™ve been s4ring r and p since 4th+. s4r of Aneglic is a bit better for cardio, but still doesnā€™t really do it cause the steps are too predictable.

the problem with DDR is that youā€™re conditioned to play certain songs. e.g. i can do So Deep while drinking a diet coke and eating a protein bar. Hence it is difficult to get ā€œtiredā€ after playing a song that youā€™ve already played 10000x before.

imo s4ring survivor max, legend, max, unlimited, is prolly the best work out for ddr.

and no ā€¦ i never touch the bar. iā€™ve played this shit since 1st mix - and this bar rape trend happened with people who started on the ddr max series

and weight lifters should not do 3 hour cardio.
weight lifters should do short hard, cardio. think of it as 400 M sprints to 1 mile sprints (under 5 minutes) ā€¦ doing anything more will just result in muscle loss / size loss

I have to co-sign on this shit, Iā€™ve been using Celltech for 3 weeks now, and Iā€™m so pissed, I have a BELLY, I havenā€™t had a pot belly in years, plus I havenā€™t noticed any special gains or additional stamina. Really fucking disappointed. So I have a question:

  1. What IS a good creatine supplement? cause Cell-Tech ainā€™t itā€¦

  2. Can I switch to a better creatine and continue my regualar one-powder-drink-a-day diet, or do I have to get off of Celltech and re-load on the the different creatine?

Any creatine monohydrate will do. You can just continue once a day. You only load when youā€™ve been off for a while.

Few things:
1.Not everyone in the world can pass 10 footers. The average/intermediate player can do
up to 9(maybe).If its too easy for you then yeah do 10s.or just do a whole lot of 9ā€™sā€¦without taking a break.Even if your conditioned to play it your legs are going to get tired sometime.

2.What might be easy for you may be hard for
somebody else( especially if theyā€™re out of shape) ,which means,theyā€™ll benefit from it more than others. (duh!) Im outta breath when 60 minutes go by. ( you MUST be a small person) Try doing R and P with an extra 100 lbs on your back :clap:cause thats what it feels like when youā€™re not used to cardio.

  1. Im more concern with losing the extra weight than trying to do whacked out songs
    like S.M.

  2. So far I havent loss any muscle(unless I donā€™t eat), 3 hours is fine, If I was doing this every single day it might be a different story. My legs have actually gotten more toned than before.

  3. Ironically, Bar Raping is good for the arms:lol:

Whew. Finally read through 23 pages.

Ok. Iā€™m 18, 5ā€™11.5" (never getting that last .5), 235 lbs.

My primary goal is to lose fat while gaining on muscle and to drop my body weight by 25-30lbs.

My first big issue is my abdominal area and losing fat from there (esp. those fucking hate-me handles of mine) . Currently, Iā€™ve been doing only 160 crunches daily. (2x40 morning, 2x40 night) Along with leg lifts with same sets. I really need somewhat of an intense workout for this area as Im obviously not working all of my mid section. Any suggestions?

I havent been to the gym lately. I want to renew my Y membership by like next month.

For now Iā€™ ve been trying work on my cardio by running 1.5 miles each morning (all I can do at the moment sadly). With a good diet, is this a good way for burning fat until I return to the gym to work on my swoleishness?

Iā€™m thinking of taking a supplement called ā€œBeastā€. Basically, itā€™s an anabolic inhibitor. To my understanding itā€™s an enhancer that makes your body produce more testosterone.

I donā€™t want to take anything bad for my body. Hae any of you all taken it? I want to know if itā€™s worth my money and hazardous to my health ini any way. I just want you peopleā€™s opinion on this.

While crunches and the like help build abs and burn fatā€¦ripped abs are a result of low bodyfat percentagesā€¦67% of what you look like is what you eatā€¦remember that. Drink tons of water and eat right and youā€™ll see more/better results in the ensueing month.

Diet and Excersize is the only way to get rid of any fat around your belly. Keep in mind crunches will only help you build muscle in those areas, they wonā€™t help get rid of fat in that area in anyway, because you canā€™t target a specific area to lose weight from.

Cardio in the mourning is a plus. Itā€™s the best time to do cardio.

Cardio every mourning without fail combined with a good diet will make all those unwanted pounds vanish. However, itā€™s up to your body where you shed pounds from, not you.

cardio in the morning just increases your metabolism throughout the day ā€¦ or so they claim ā€¦ as for DDR - iā€™m 6 feet, 205lbs ā€¦ power lifting bench around 280, military around 185 (i bring the bar down to like the middle of my chest for military - and yes this is 10x harder than going to the chin.) my squat / deadlifts suck because iā€™m still perfecting the form (i go all the way down for the squats and do the powerlifting pause for the deadlifts).

again iā€™ve played ddr since 1st mix and started s4ring 9s by 4th ā€¦ if you play ddr long enough - you WILL BE CONDITIONED TO any song. iā€™ve seen people do max300 x4 and not even break a sweat (no bar rape). why? cause they memorize the notes. i s4r to prevent conditioning and it helps my reaction time. but even with s4r - you WILL GET CONDITIONED TO A SONG. iā€™ve AAed s4r r and p longer than most people have been playing ddr. hence doing r and p s4r isnā€™t a workout. i can do this extra stage when iā€™m dead tired - yet if you do random select and pick ā€¦ ionno a song i donā€™t play like ā€¦ orion civ s4r - then i might fail. there are only so many songs in ddr. youā€™ll eventually find yourself bored once you get the steps down. survivor max oni is prolly the best one to tire people out consistenly because itā€™s absurd ā€¦ but iā€™m pretty sure by now people are AAing it without breaking a sweatā€¦ this really is a serious post ā€¦ once youā€™ve played the game enough youā€™ll understand. when ddrmax first came out, i thought so deep was hard and tiring as hell ā€¦ but max2 So Deep was the easiest, leisurely 9 footer for me.

imo sprints > ddr. if youā€™re out for power ā€¦ then do the 400m and 1 mile.

if youā€™re a lifter and want power ā€¦ donā€™t do crazy ass cardio. just do very heavy, harsh, timed cardio. check out the bodies of sprinters ā€¦ compared to marathon runnersā€¦

okayā€¦well today i meant to do my cardio in the morning before workā€¦but i got caught up in some famous atlanta traffic and I had to go straight to the storeā€¦would it be pointless to do my cardio after work? 9:30 pm? Cuz I lift mon, wed, friā€¦and today is my cardio day. (I always do cardio in teh morningā€¦i canā€™t today tho.)

You canā€™t bulid muscle and burn fat at the same time. Theyā€™re two opposites. Pick one and stick with it.

And you can do your cardio whenever you want really. I do interval training:

2 minute warmup
20 seconds all out
40 seconds moderate
Repeat 6 or 7 times
2 minute cooldown

I just donā€™t have the time to do an hour of cardio a day, and from what Iā€™ve been reading (and noticing) it burns fat better than slow paced cardio.

GlassNinja:

You can do cardio whever you want.