-- Weightlifting & Nutrition Thread -- v9.0 Optimized

-Like I said earlier…Not everyone can pass 10’s.Easier songs are probably enough to do the job . Not everyone is in shape.

-Have you played 8’s and 9’ for 2-3 hours (literally) without break,stopping?

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If played consistently you will lose calories, no matter how conditioned you are.
Cardio always burns calories. ( unless your eating more than you burn)

I’ve read before and read it again in this thread that morning is the best time to cardio. But question for people who HAVE done both of these, which is better at losig fat and you’ve noticed results? In morning without breakfast? or with breakfast?

that’s not the point for a powerlifter / sprinter / athlete tho.

i mean WALKING burns calories … really really damn well. jogging in one place will also burn calories … heck walking that 1 mile to school burns calories for me.

cardio - i define it as - raising my heart rate up to a high level … and walking / jogging does not cut it. yes if you walk 100 miles you will get tired - if you play ddr for a couple hours you will die … but that’s not the point.

imo muscle is the key to losing weight. i was a fat ass kid back in like 5th grade … and i started lifting in 8th grade … and before then i did stuff like swimming and jogging and stuff … the only thing that worked for me was hardcore lift / sprints … muscle will burn fat … so why not increase your lean muscle mass instead of running around on a DDR mat for hours.

e.g. i can work out for 1 hour at the gym and maybe 30 minutes of cardio and eat whatever i want.

if i did just cardio, i would get fat.

that’s not true. you can lose fat and gain strength at the same time.

it’s just that if yoiu’re a body builder … you can not cut up and build muscle at the same time. cutting up is a difficult and nasty process … you know 5% body fat ins’t really safe? getting there is HARD. the diet / exercise / routine is designed to burn fat asap and retain as much muscle … but you still get weak since it’s hardcore low carb.

anyways i’ve lost fat and gained muscle. i was 220 to 200 and everything from squat, bench, deadlift, military went up … and so did my size in terms of broadness/shoulders/chest.

but there is a point around <10% where your body will fight to keep the fat it has … thus you can’t really do both.

I was 300 lbs and my max bench was 405. I tore my rotator and could not lift so I started to do a lot of cardio and lighter weights. I now weigh 210 lbs and my max bench is down to 365. I lost a lot of fat and some muscle. The trade off was well worth it since at 300lbs I had more muscle but looked like a dough boy. Since I’ve slimmed down and lift less I actually look stronger as most of the fat is gone.

What kinda creatine is good?..i lost track of my loading phase…(I’ve only been takin it like 2 weeks) I take the capsules…but I HATE swallowing that many fucking pills…is the powder better? What brand of creatine should I use?..cuz mine is the shitty GNC creatine capsules. I feel stronger but I have a feeling the creatine isn’t doin shit even tho I drink a gallon of h2o a day.

I know this is a weightlifting thread, but does anyone know of any good fat burners? I’ve used zantrex, hydroxycut and xenadrine with zantrex being the best. Anything new or revolutionary on the market?

HOW THE FUCk DID YOU lOSE 100 LBS?!?!?
that’s pretty fucking crazy dawg. 300 and 405 isn’t anything. but 200 and 360 is hot. really. i mean just ratio wise.

just take creatine in powder form that’s pure creatine monohydrate or whatever it’s called. take it with water … it says apple /grape juice is better for transport … but it’s bull … you get so much sugar from a glass of juice - it’s not worth it.

No for real…take it with juice. Only creatine you don’t mix with juice is cell tech because it already incorporates about 80 grams of sugar in a serving. IMO cell tech is awesome. I gained over 10 pounds when I was stackin nitro tech and cell tech and I got WAY stronger FAST. Soon as I get some money saved up I’m starting another cycle.

Big difference between gaining gaining muscle and gaining strength. What I’m saying is you can’t gain muscle and lose fat at the same time, because gaining muscle means more calories and losing fat means less. The only people that can do both at the same time are people new to lifting when their bodies haven’t adapted to training.

Most people think they’ve gotten bigger while cutting because they look more defined. Read all the articles out there, you can’t burn fat and gain muscle at the same time if you’re an experienced lifter.

Whatup guys,
I am real overweight (i probably weight around 300lbs or so) and am currently really trying to lose (i’d love to weigh even like 225, heh even 250 would be a big change). I’m lifting some weight to try to tone my muscle and since muscle burns fat, i’m not so much trying to gain strenth though or “bulk up” since i know that and weight loss dont really go hand in hand. I’ve been eating WAY better now also, like 1/2 the cal intake i used to probably, and all around better food like fruit etc.

My question though is, Is it ok for me to do cardio every day? What would be good stuff for me to do? I have an exercise bike and i’ve started walking some, 2 miles in about 40 minutes.

Which is better for me to do? Walk or ride the bike? Am i walking too slow? I feel like i could speed that up, but i dont feel like i could even jog 1 mile without having a meltdown lol. I’m also trying to get a punching bag for my birthday to work out on etc.

Currently i’ve been riding the bike 30 min a day, should i quit that and start walking 2-3 miles at a faster/same pace instead?

Thanks for the advice, i’m really serious about this.

I just wanted to say I dumped my Celltech and switched to straight up Creatine Monohydrate (along with a bottle of Welch’s grape juice). It’s Muscletech creatine :rofl: but that’s all they had at the store… I doubt the brand of creatine makes any difference though, and it must be better than that fattening Creatine Kool-Aid I was using.

Sorry if I didn’t read all of the pages of the thread, but can someone tell me exactly what CellTech is? I see everyone kinda saying good stuff about it and I’d like to know what it is before going out to the store to get it. Thx in advance.

cell tech is like a lot of sugar and marketing. lmao1111

if you gain strength, you are gaining muscle. i’m pretty sure of it. wtf would you be gaining, if it wasn’t msucle? fat? fat doesn’t lift weight man.

Okay, I’m getting a membership and a gym and starting to work out again. What’s a good beginner workout for me?

140 pounds…I want to get good abs, pecs, shoulders, back. Going more for cut than bulk, but I do want to get stronger. I’m gonna run 3 or 4 miles every other day, the cardio is no big deal, we did plenty of that in the Corps, but as far as bodybuilding, we didn’t do much of that.

I hear a lot of bullshit about Celltech this other man sued them because he grew tits.

Yo romie…I’m fed up man…I’ve finally made up my mind…I need to cut up…so if you don’t mind…could you please tell me everything i need to eat, drink, take(supplement wise), and do(work-out)…summer is right around the corner…I’m not loookin for a quick fix…just a life-style change that’ll keep me fit…cuz I wanted to get big…then I wanted to get cut…but I finally made up my mind…any help would be appreciated.

If your going to buy protein powders get the find that has little or no sugar.
On’s Instant whey is prob. the best they have.

More importantly buy and eat REAL food…cant rely on just creat.moh/burner stuff,
or you’ll turn into a chemical mutant.

I have a question regarding working out while sick.

Over the past month I have been doing 40minute cardio 6 days a week. This past weekend however I got a severe cold. My body is aching, my nose is stuffy, and my voice is gone.

Is it ok to do cardio or should I let my body rest?

thx!!