-- Weightlifting & Nutrition Thread -- v9.0 Optimized

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3-4% bodyfat isn’t correct. Measure again. Only bodybuilders on 1,200 calorie a day diets can achieve 3-4%bf. And they can only maintain it for a few weeks at most. It isn’t healthy to have that low bodyfat for long periods of time. You’d suffer from severe dehydration.

A good ratio would be 40protien/40carb/20fat. That’s pretty good for someone who wouldn’t be watching their diet like a hawk. To get big, you have to eat a ot of protien, can’t stress that enough.

As for exercises, bench press, deadlifts, and squats should be the staple of your workout routine. Those are the main mass gainers. Deadlifts probably being one of the best exercises one can do.

I’d advise doing a split routine. Make one.

ParryAll:

Weighted crunches and leg raises do the trick. Heavy sets, medium reps (8-12). Lots of cardio (3-4 30min. sessions a week) will increase overall definition.

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I finally got some money put away in the bank so I felt comfortable droppin the extra chunk of change on nitro and cell tech. I’ve been drinkin 3 shakes a day of nitrotech for a lil over a week now and have already gained 5 pounds…I know it’s ridiculous but it’s true. And I just started my loading phase on the cell tech…I thought about roids for a second but just decided against it altogether. I’ll post up any additional gains and keep track of my gains in strength as well and post up.

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nitro is the shit, do you take no-explode?

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after an intense workout, is it wise to take a dip in a jacuzzi?

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I wanna built up muscle but at the same time gain weight, is there a way I could do that?

I know many guys who have muscles everywhere but theyr are just so damn skinny, and let’s face it the ladies don’t want a skinny guy.

I am 5’7 158 pununds and wanna gain weight but not be fat at the same time, any help?

oh yeah and the abs exersises worked, no six pack yet but geting I’m there, I noticed my whole body was getting skinnier, I was eating less and working out more, I really don’t want to be a stick

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Whenever I do any running, after about 7/8 minutes I habitually get a stich. I normally don’t eat or drink before I run, sometimes I may eat a banana but that’s it. Anyone offer any solutions?

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Nitrotech is WAY overpriced. Don’t buy it again. Optimum Nutrition Whey is the best. And Celltech has 80 grams of sugar PER SERVING. That’s why you gained weight. Stay away from those two products. (Though I have no gripe with Nitro, it’s Celltech that I despise).

Red-Impact:

Protien, protien, and more protien. I can’t stress that enough. A high protien, moderate carb diet will bulk you up. Heavy lifting too of course.

darthJones:

I’d personally love to do that… but my gym is ghetto.

Shin Piccolo:

I don’t understand what a stich is. You feel can’t eat or something after workouts? If so, then have a shake. You don’t have to eat anything heavy.

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Look what I found.:clap:Well Ill say these things, from exp.

If you’re trying to get heavy…

-Well the best way to diet is to eat the right foods,vegges,protein,Etc.
theres no easy way around it.
-!!Supplements are not replacements!!Must eat real food.
-If you’re building you need to eat protein,a lot.Bodybuilders
eat a whole lot, because there working hard in the gym and require more maintanance than a non workoutaholic. Carb intake should be moderate but no more than protein intake or you will get probably fat.
-Must lift heavy,Exp.;if you can curl 30 lb only 3 times,
keep working on it till you can curl it 10 lbs.then move to 40lb.
-Must sleep.Bout 6 to 8hrs.

If you’re trying to get skinny/ripped.(This is what Im trying to do)

(If youre overweight you will hate this)
-Cardio,Cardio,Cardio,Cardio,Cardio,Cardio,Cardio,Cardio
Cardio,Cardio,Cardio,Cardio,Cardio!
Areobic activity of some sort and it needs to be something that will make your heart pump.Running,jogging, the stuff that Billy Blanks does.

The most fun cardio I can think of is DDR. (go to get up move.com and see testimonies) If you mix this in with resistance training youll drop fat pretty fast,but it just depends on the person.

  • FOOD-is about 70% of the dieting prosess. what you eat is going to determine how you look.
    Its possible for a 300 lb person to have rock hard abs
    (cause I have it:clap:) or anything,If you train them hard enough,
    but if you’re overweight,you wont be able to see:sad:or feel them,
    until you lose the fat. So avoid High fattning/sugar foods and candies
    ( you know what they are) and eat the good stuff.
    Otherwise youll just end up burning off what you just ate instead of burning fat or not burning at all.
    -If you do cardio right when you wake up,on an empty stomach,
    youll burn much more during the day.
    -Water,Water,Aguas,Aguas.
    -Sleep.

Because of this contest I signed up for
I Trying to lose 50 lb between now and beggining May.Im supposed to
be between 220 to 240,currently at 275-300.
I have a B4 Shot:arazz: so if I see a difference in May
Ill put that and after shot up. But its hard when youre addicted to all the bad stuff.

P.S Protien is spelled P-R-O-T-E-I-N. :lol:

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I’ve always been told that nitro and cell tech were the best…And if I’m not mistaken cell tech has lots of sugar for a reason…I don’t know exactly what it is so I’ll refrain from talking out of my ass…but it’s the same reason it’s recommended to take creatine with juice…cell tech also has pro hormones in it for those of you who didn’t know…but again…we’ll just see how much I see in the way of gains…considering I’ve put on over 6 pounds already and I don’t eat enough food to justify those gains…I’d have to say I’m doing something right…

And when I said nitro olan I meant nitrotech the protein powder…I have however went through a couple bottles of NO2 in the past…and I would like to try pump tech next…

And nitrotech also has glutamin peptides, L-glutamin and leucine and doesn’t taste like the crack of my ass either…that’s why I like it. 2 scoops in skim milk is around 45-50 grams of protein a pop. I’ve been drinking 3 shakes a day and I’m in the loading phase of cell tech and that’s a couple more shakes a day for the first five days…so I stay pretty full…just trying to make sure I drink enough water (at least a gallon)

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The reason that sugar is in there is for an insulin response to “drive” creatine uptake. See that bottle of grape juice over there? Less absolute sugar content, right GI for what your trying to do. Take 6 ounces and your creatine, wash down with some water and your gold. After your done with cell tech try this and see if its not the same result (and much cheaper.) As for NO2 products, the majority of people feel they are really not worth the bang, if your going to invest i would lean in going toward an CEE product. Creatine Ethyl Ester is the proposed “next best thing” and I have been hereing great things about it. Mainly that is has creatine effects but no bloat. I’m currently dieting (for about 5 more weeks) so I’m off creatine at all, but I’m seriously considering jumping on CEE and giving it a whirl.

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I use dextrose with creatine for the exact same purpose, it’s a catalyst

also celltech is garbage, i like ON but i don’t like how it taste too much; i’ve actually found that cytosport tastes better…but ON is a better shake so i force myself to drink anyway…

also. everyone should get ICE…it makes you not get sore…it’s amazing

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Its also sugary to nullify the ‘‘Taste like a hospital’’ Powder.

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well I’ve already bought this stuff so I’m going to at least give it a try and take it as directed/recommended…and we’ll see what gains I get…if it works at all it will be the first thing I’ve tried that really helped…

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food is the number one supplement, don’t ever forget that

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Cell tech and Nitro tech don’t have prohormones, because prohormones have been illegal since January 22nd.

Yes, you should take something with a little sugar, like grape juice, with creatine, but 80 grams is overkill. Way overkill.

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on whey is the shit,
so n02 isn’t worth the buck? cause i was about to buy another bottle?
does anybody know any good cee products?

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Cell tech has alpha lipoic acid which mimics the action of insulin on muscle, improving creatine and glucose uptake. May not sound like it but it’s categorized as a hormone “enhancer” in muscle and fitness magazine along with 4-hydroxy-isoleucine, 6-oxo, tribulus terrestris, alpha-gpc, and mucuna pruriens.

And the same grape juice I bought from the store has over 40 grams in a serving, some brands even having more than that…

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Those Cell Tech ads in the mags are full of crap. I’m not trying to make fun of you or anything, but don’t believe everything you read. They may say increase muscle mass by xxx%, but it’s all crap. That’s what Muscletech is known for. Hyping up their products and making false claims. Go to any bodybuilding forum and ask about Celltech. You’ll always get the same response. It’s bad for you, too much sugar, false claims etc.

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Yeah I know what you mean…but the same is true with all supplement companies…you can’t flip through a fitness magazine without seeing some ridiculous before and after pictures…but what I was quoting was not an advertisement for any particular brand anything…it was an article on 13 different compounds found in various supplements that aid in various ways…one was hormone enhancement, strength boosters, digestive aids, and mental stimulants for focus and concentration…muscletech as a whole was mentioned twice among those for pumptech and cell tech. I’m not saying I believe everything I read but I’m at least going to give it an honest try and see where it gets me…

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Okay, guys. I’m leaving for Quincy tomorrow. I can’t take any weights with me. Um…would that be a problem? I can still do elevated pushups and crunches, and dips…will I lose any size without my wieghts? Can I also keep my triceps and biceps in shape by curling/straightening my arms slowly, with the muscles flexed/tensed? I usually eat 6 meals a day. Without weightlifting to provide an outlet for those calories, will anything negative happen?