It’s L, left, B, A, R at the title screen. Unlocks two more characters.
I can’t seem to get it to work at all.
It’s L, left, B, A, R at the title screen. Unlocks two more characters.
I can’t seem to get it to work at all.
count me in :lovin:
Just letting you guys know that I’m claiming Imawara Takashi as the character I will be working on first.
Dude looks really strong from what I can tell so far and I like how he plays. He’s the dude that can shoot the fireballs and he has an uppercut as well. Wears a bluish green trench coat and he is third from the bottom right on the character select screen. A wolf appears when his super hits.
So…keep yo hands off my character. lolol.
Nice choice, he looks cool
I made the redizzy in corner with Tanaka work!
This time I mapped 2p down to same as 1p down, making 2p crouch to block low when needed. So this time it should be a true combo.
[media=youtube]aV1X3CJrOBE"[/media]
:tup:
This means he has a corner infinite after all, and one that can be ended with a Super even without comboing into it, thanks to the dizzy! I hereby promote him from low/lowmid to mid/high tier lol
It’s: LP - HP - Spin(A version) - c.LP
repeat twice, then super. One repeat + super might work if he doesn’t have full health at start.
Awesome thread, Yin. I’ll play this in a bit and see if I can contribute something. :tup:
As for game suggestions, I suggest we give Asura Blade/Buster a shot or one of the first forms of poverty fighters: [media=youtube]YdSGqx2ANTc[/media].
btw, just found this:
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Shows that everyone is pretty dangerous in the corner. But remember that if the opponent is dizzy and low on health, do your super instead of taking him out normally, so you win the round.
Maybe the person who did this vid is here on SRK?
edit:
Loler: Yeah, Asura Blader/Buster is awesome!
As for Pretty Fighter, made me remember this: [media=youtube]9aTF-7d4gTI"[/media]
Noticing some things as I play.
After someone wakes up they are invincible for a noticeable amount of time. At least 1 whole second I think. I guess that’s to make up for a lack of reversals in this game. So the the one waking up can just walk up and grab or do w/e and the attacker will get raped if they try any type of pressure. So on wake-up you should just back the hell up unless you want your face to get re-arranged.
Hit stun is huge in this game. I mean light attacks put you into serious stun time. This is why certain moves can combo even when it looks like they shouldn’t. This also makes it ridiculously easy to hit confirm.
It’s hard to build meter. You build it by blocking or getting beat on. Which would mean the game is more defensive at high levels but impact defense rewards strategic risk taking since you still take damage while building ki. So at high levels I think this game would be pretty interesting.
Some simple, everyday use Sakuma combos:
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Sakuma seems really solid as well.
Either that or use the counter move (b + any attack button) if you want to get people away from you even better. Seems to knock opponents pretty far away as well. It’s pretty much like KoF’s CD attacks.
What do you guys think of Nakai (aka the double claw guy)? His air only moves can be easily seen from miles away (the down + X one moreso) and the only use for his rush claw slash move is to combo into it after the tons of jabs that he (and a lot of other characters) could make.
When people get better, moves that are easy to react to might get countered a lot.
But I havn’t seen much of that claw guy, just the AI using him once and that doesn’t say much about how good he is. Seemed to have good range though?
What’s his super like? Or his charged ki attack?
Also, good stuff EmblemLord. I hadn’t even noticed that invincibility yet. And the whole ki thing is sure to become interesting. Another thing about that, what is the best use of this hard earned ki?
Save it for health when getting knocked down, or use it all up to do a super? Is it worth wasting on the charged attack?
How the hell do u get Netplay to work on SNES9x? Does someone create at game and with a port number and u join?
Range seems ok to me, especially his crouch HP. Not too far compared to the big guys, though, due to his size.
As for his super, FAQ seems to say that it’s b, d, f + X (or should be HCF + X) done close, but for some strange reason, it’s not wanting to work for me.
EDIT: Crap, forgot that the © was charge. So it actually should be charge b, then d, f + X. Super seems pretty slow to me; he just flips forward and slashes the opponent with a somewhat flashy background.
this is the best worst thread ever
Try switching punch for kick, that faq has screwed that up a lot in the movelist. Maybe that’s the problem.
Also, for Sakuma who has f,b,d,f it seems I almost have to avoid the diagonals lol. But he still has proper halfcircle moves where you use the diagonals fine. It’s kinda weird, but give it a try.
Edit: Oops, you solved it. Oh well, good
Why, thank you! :party:
Time for me to sleep now, sadly. Just when things were getting interesting.
I might miss some of my mame collection here as I just updated mame and the CHDs are all not updated for a lot of these so they aren’t showing up in the UI right (especially neogeo based arcade games). I haven’t even played some of these. Let’s also try to limit ourselves to games that have the following restrictions: we can netplay somehow, they have 6 or less buttons, and are emulated correctly.
Arcade:
Aggressors of Dark Combat
Avengers in Galactic Storm
Dragoon Might
Fighter’s History (note: Not karnov’s revenge)
Martial Champion
Martial Masters
Death Blade
Power Instinct 1 & 2
Street Fighter 2 Champion Edition Accelerator romhack (note: we can consider this to be a separate game from the real SF2)
Street Fighter the Movie (well known but I can’t find any real information about the game online other than movelists)
Tattoo Assassins
Time Killers
Blood Storm
Asura Blade
Asura Buster
Daraku Tenshi - The Fallen Angels
Dragon Master
Voltage Fighter Gowcaiser
WWF Wrestlemania (note: this GAME IS REALLY SURPRISINGLY GOOD (yet deliciously terrible))
World Heroes
World Heroes 2
Survival Arts
The Killing Blade
SNES:
Battle Blaze (U) [!]
Battle Tycoon (J) (V1.1)
Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon S - Jougai Rantou! Shuyaku Soudatsusen (J)
Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon Super S - Zenin Sanka!! Shuyaku Soudatsusen (J)
Clay Fighter (U) [!]
Clay Fighter 2 - Judgment Clay (U) [!]
Doomsday Warrior
Dragon Ball Z - Hyper Dimension (J) [!]
Godzilla - Kaijuu Daikessen (J)
Justice League Task Force (U)
King of the Monsters (U)
King of the Monsters 2 (U) [!]
Mighty Morphin Power Rangers - The Fighting Edition (U)
Ossu!! Karatebu (J)
Power Moves (U)
Seifuku Densetsu Pretty Fighter (J)
Shaq Fu (U) [!]
Shin Kidou Senki Gundam W - Endless Duel (J)
Super Bikkuriman (J)
Super Chinese Fighter (J)
Tekken 2 (PD). (Yes, China made a Tekken 2 for the SNES romhack. Thank you China.)
Tuff E Nuff (U) [!]
Uchuu no Kishi - Tekkaman Blade (J)
Ultimate Fighter (U)
Weapon Lord (U) [!]
Xmen Vs. Street Fighter romhack (IF ANYONE CAN FIND THIS ROM THANK YOU. [media=youtube]Q67uBWl5u3k[/media] . I also saw a video that got taken down that had a 1/4 size wolverine sprite fighting a full size ryu, the hilarity was unforgettable.).
Genesis (if some of these games look “well-known” to you, they’re actually unlicensed Chinese pirate romhack games):
Eternal Champions
Fighting Masters
King of Fighters 98
Soul Blade (never been able to get this to run correctly though)
Tekken 3 Special
Top Fighter 2000 MK VII
V.R Fighter Vs. Taken 2 (not a typo on my part)
N64:
Bio F.R.E.A.K.S.
Clay Fighter 63 1/3
Fighter Destiny 2
Tom and Jerry in Fists of Furry
NES (pretty much all of these are pirate romhacks):
Kart Fighter
Street Fighter 3
Street Fighter 4
Street Fighter VI 12 Peoples
Street Fighter Zero 2
Tekken 2
Mortal Kombat 3 - Special 56 Peoples
Street Fighter 5 20 Peoples
Mortal Combat 3 Extra 60
Mortal Kombat II Original
Mortal Kombat II Special
Tekken 3
King of Fighters 97
Street Heroes
I’m not going to bring up some of the jaguar and 3do fighters because I don’t think we can netplay those and emulation is imperfect.
edit: I’ll get around to listing the PSX games, but I really recommend Slap Happy Rhythm Busters on this system.
ryuu-ban can throw a fireball, dash across the screen and combo after it hits
edit: The netcode on SNES9X is asdf atrocious we need a better emulator
edit: trying http://goebish.free.fr/snes9k/
edit: snes9k it is. much better. chat log:
(17:31:04) The topic for #FGClub is: X-MEN… WELCOME TO DIE! http://www.romnation.net/srv/roms/54415/snes204/Ossu-Karatebu.html
(17:31:15) doctathun: sup
(17:31:19) You are now known as anotak
(17:31:23) anotak: anotak here
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(17:33:19) mode (+o anotak) by Anakron
(17:34:47) anotak: thanks
(17:34:57) anotak: efnet, this place is old school, no chanserv
(17:36:15) Anakron: nop
(17:59:41) Lilman [~Lilman@c-66-176-96-51.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] entered the room.
(18:10:12) mode (+o Lilman) by Anakron
(18:18:30) anotak: http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost.php?p=6772925&postcount=76 made a list of all the games I could find other than PSX games I’ll get to those in a second
(18:19:29) Lilman: anybody try net play yet?
(18:19:48) anotak: no i dunno if i have the right emulator for it
(18:19:53) anotak: what emulator are we using
(18:20:23) Lilman: Snes9x
(18:20:29) anotak: latest version?
(18:20:36) Lilman: i have no idea
(18:20:56) Lilman: 1.4
(18:21:21) anotak: i have 1.51 here
(18:22:04) anotak: lets see if netplay works anyway hold on
(18:24:40) anotak: looks like i’m going to have to open port 6096 on my router
(18:26:29) Lilman: u dont have any ports open now?
(18:27:44) anotak: try to connect to 74.183.146.19
(18:30:37) anotak: oh sweet
(18:30:39) Lilman: im connected i guess
(18:30:41) anotak: yeah
(18:30:54) anotak: client 2 has paused
(18:31:33) Lilman: im not paused
(18:31:39) anotak: really?
(18:31:40) anotak: weird
(18:32:03) Lilman: ok lets try that again
(18:32:07) anotak: yeah ok
(18:32:29) anotak: same ip
(18:35:41) Lilman: did u do that?
(18:35:46) anotak: i dunno
(18:35:50) anotak: lets try it again
(18:35:55) anotak: was everything working on your end
(18:36:01) Lilman: yea
(18:36:07) Lilman: yum lagtastic
(18:36:11) anotak: yeah lol
(18:36:26) anotak: okay its up
(18:39:12) anotak: this guy seems good
(18:40:41) yourmothe [760a4798@p8152-ipbfp504kobeminato.hyogo.ocn.ne.jp] entered the room.
(18:41:12) Lilman: did u pause it?
(18:41:16) anotak: says you did
(18:41:21) anotak: i think it pauses when we start lagging
(18:41:21) yourmothe: this game is ridiculous
(18:42:19) anotak: did you hit start or something the game stopped
(18:42:33) anotak: also i think the 4 on the right on the select screen are boss characters
(18:42:53) Lilman: i have no idea
(18:42:59) Lilman: i didnt hit anything
(18:43:09) anotak: alright lets try again lol
(18:43:21) anotak: same ip
(18:43:21) Lilman: my start button is all the way on the top back of my stick
(18:43:52) Lilman: we should try diff emulators too
(18:43:53) yourmothe: anybody else around and/or down for netplay on this bitch?
(18:44:04) Lilman: to see which is better
(18:44:10) anotak: i have zsnes i dont know if it’s the latest version though
(18:44:16) anotak: also i heard they took out netplay in zsnes
(18:44:18) anotak: i dont really know
(18:46:03) Lilman: im checking now
(18:46:05) anotak: kk
(18:46:33) anotak: we might also have bad ping with each other
(18:46:46) anotak: it seems playable on my end but that’s probably because i’m the server
(18:46:54) anotak: i can’t tell what’s happening for you
(18:47:01) Lilman: im also on wireless that probably doesnt help
(18:47:30) anotak: oh that’ll do it
(18:47:46) Lilman: ZSNES says net play but u cant open it
(18:47:53) anotak: wireless can be pretty good but occasionally it’ll spike up to like 1K ping
(18:48:00) Lilman: wtf is the point of having it there then?
(18:48:05) Lilman: yea
(18:48:23) Lilman: cuz i play on GGPO with hardly any lag
(18:48:37) anotak: GGPO has a lot better netcode too though
(18:48:47) anotak: this is some old-ass client/server based shit
(18:49:19) anotak: I think this game is basically like, every frame sending you a save state from my computer
(18:49:24) anotak: or something dumb like that
(18:49:49) Lilman: we can try again when i cam use the comp connected directly to the router
(18:49:54) anotak: kk
(18:49:56) Lilman: right now i cant
(18:51:23) anotak: that fireball guy seems ridiculous though
(18:51:32) anotak: throw a fireball, dash across the screen and combo after it
(18:52:08) anotak: yourmothe: you want to try SNES9x?
(18:52:12) anotak: netplay
(18:52:16) Lilman: im liking the first dude i played
(18:52:21) yourmothe: sure
(18:52:39) Lilman: im gunna sit here and see if i can figure out ZSNES
(18:52:57) anotak: try to connect to 74.183.146.19 yourmothe
(18:53:52) anotak: if the claw guy has wall dives i’m going to vomit
(18:54:17) yourmothe: ok giving it a shot
(18:54:20) anotak: kk
(18:55:07) anotak: it said you might have connected or something?
(18:55:09) anotak: anything?
(18:55:15) anotak: oh ok i see you
(18:55:21) yourmothe: hmm…
(18:55:54) anotak: you getting lots of lag?
(18:55:57) anotak: or something
(18:56:08) yourmothe: setting my joystick
(18:56:09) yourmothe: sorry
(18:56:11) anotak: ahh
(18:56:13) anotak: thats fine
(18:56:36) Lilman: forget ZSNES its netplay doesnt work
(18:56:44) yourmothe: lol ok now it just froze up
(18:56:54) anotak: did it unfreeze?
(18:57:09) anotak: give it a second i was fixing my controls i had punch and kicks mixed up when i played lilman
(18:57:35) yourmothe: yeah it looks like i’m getting lag tho
(18:58:26) yourmothe: yeah this lag is bad
(18:58:31) anotak: hmm shit
(18:58:37) yourmothe: fuckin a
(18:58:40) yourmothe: lol
(18:58:51) anotak: that’s bad
(18:59:02) anotak: yeah it doesn’t seem laggy on my end it must be what i said
(18:59:04) yourmothe: yeah it’d be cool if it was doable on something without shit netcode, my moves weren’t even coming out half the time
(18:59:05) anotak: client-server thing
(18:59:07) anotak: yeah
(19:00:12) yourmothe: haha
(19:00:16) yourmothe: oh well
(19:00:17) anotak: lol
(19:00:17) anotak: yeah
(19:00:31) anotak: we need to figure out how to get better netplay
(19:00:39) yourmothe: yeah
(19:00:50) anotak: because even though it’s not lagging at all on my end
(19:01:01) anotak: i can tell that you and Lilman are lagging
(19:01:24) anotak: because i’ll do moves and there’s just no reaction at all
(19:01:45) Lilman: ur not on wireless are u moth?
(19:01:54) yourmothe: nope
(19:02:01) Lilman: ok then its not me
(19:02:24) Lilman: just shitty code
(19:02:57) yourmothe: lol
(19:03:03) anotak: lol yeah this is terrible
(19:03:07) yourmothe: i was mashing but apparently the game didn’t notice
(19:03:09) anotak: yeah lol
(19:03:14) yourmothe: so I died
(19:03:23) Lilman: isnt there a cliet that uses Killera at least?
(19:03:30) anotak: i dunno
(19:03:35) mode (+o yourmothe) by Anakron
(19:03:35) anotak: i dont know anything about netplay really
(19:03:38) Anakron: hi hi hi
(19:03:39) Lilman: i know one of the Gen emulators do
(19:03:42) anotak: hi Anakron
(19:03:53) anotak: we might have to get a different game if this is the case, this is garbage
(19:05:32) yourmothe: I’ve got the old version of zsnes right before netplay got broken, in case anybody wants to try that
(19:05:44) anotak: what version is it
(19:05:52) yourmothe: 1.42
(19:06:34) yourmothe: http://board.zsnes.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=176308#176308
(19:06:45) anotak: http://goebish.free.fr/snes9k/
(19:06:51) anotak: kaillera snes
(19:06:59) yourmothe: oh for real?
(19:08:55) anotak: yeah
(19:09:22) anotak: btw i have no idea how to use kaillera
(19:10:46) anotak: the server I have the best ping with is called “godweapon’s” something or other in virginia so i joined that server
(19:11:05) yourmothe: well it’s still got all the same menus as the old one, idk how to use this really
(19:11:13) anotak: go to the like
(19:11:21) anotak: the file menu or whatever
(19:11:48) anotak: file -> play kaillera game
(19:12:09) yourmothe: gotta unzip my shit?
(19:12:11) yourmothe: sigh
(19:12:15) yourmothe: lol
(19:12:32) Anakron: how barbaric
(19:13:07) anotak: i have a game hosted
(19:13:15) yourmothe: k what server?
(19:13:24) anotak: “godweapon’s best of the best”
(19:13:28) anotak: or something like that
(19:13:31) anotak: it’s in virginia
(19:13:41) anotak: says you joined the lobby
(19:14:23) anotak: shit
(19:14:28) anotak: my controls aren’t set up lol
(19:14:28) yourmothe: oh shoot, need to drop and redo my keys
(19:14:30) yourmothe: lol
(19:14:38) Anakron: oh wow godweapons
(19:15:34) anotak: game is up again
(19:17:08) Lilman: lolz i tried to join and i was kicked
(19:18:56) Lilman: is it better guys?
(19:19:13) yourmothe: yeah
(19:19:22) anotak: very okayabke
(19:19:51) Lilman: okayabke?
(19:20:05) anotak: playable typo lol
(19:23:13) anotak: LOL
(19:23:14) yourmothe: haha
(19:23:39) anotak: that move where he yells “RYUAHHH” is very solid antiair it seems
(19:26:04) Lilman: i feel left out me want play /cry
(19:26:40) yourmothe: alright you can get in in a minute
(19:26:41) anotak: this guy is totally vega
(19:26:54) yourmothe: yeah he’s got the yells and everything
(19:26:58) Lilman: na play as much as u want
(19:27:06) Lilman: im just messing around
(19:27:20) yourmothe: this suit guy is my favorite
(19:27:33) yourmothe: his running throws can reversal like everything, grab limbs, all kinds of dumb stuff
(19:27:58) Anakron: next game should be gowkaizer
(19:29:49) yourmothe: owned
(19:29:57) anotak: that throw is fucking good
(19:30:13) yourmothe: yeah ik
(19:32:35) yourmothe: nice
(19:32:39) anotak: thanks
(19:32:54) anotak: the bald fireball guy (midget sagat) didn’t have a throw
(19:33:06) yourmothe: for real?
(19:33:09) anotak: for real
(19:33:13) anotak: he also doesn’t have low attacks i think
(19:33:18) Anakron: midget sagat sounds so broken on paper
(19:33:24) Anakron: that’s like oddjob in goldeneye
(19:34:23) anotak: this guy is balrog
(19:35:33) anotak: ggs man i gotta go
(19:35:40) yourmothe: i could only figure out one special for that guy but his normals seem good
(19:35:44) yourmothe: yeah ggd
(19:35:49) yourmothe: ggs
(19:35:52) anotak: i only know one special for a lot of them yeah
(19:36:11) anotak: i’ll post up this log on the thread
I’d love to do asura busters next, that game is funny, unfortunately the MAME emulation for it is horrendous.
About the game though. Sotogawa, the suit guy, is my favorite character. He’s got the running grabs that are retardedly fast, and can reversal most things that aren’t jabs. Also he can combo them in after comboing a ton of other stuff together and getting totally pushed out. His jumping kick special goes over lots of stuff including most fireballs, including mini sagat’s. His super is just a beefed up version of the throw special where he runs all the way across the screen with some fire and shit, it’s suuuuuper fast, so again, use it as reversal for w/e.
The guy with beads has good range on a lot of his stuff, but not much else.
Not-vega was retarded. He seems good.
guy-in-trenchcoat with the crazy wind looking moves seems pretty solid, he’s got a fireball and his normals are pretty top notch, his standing HK is really good anti-air, and his crouching HK has really good range. idk about his combos, but I’d have to guess that they’re pretty decent.
The Vega dude didn’t impress me.
His normals are solid but his specials are either poor or so so.
He does have a corner infinite though so I guess he can’t be lower then mid tier. He has fast ground speed though.
Ryuu-Un, the small guy that shoots two different fireballs wears green and has a white beard.
Yeah, Auto bottom tier. Worst character in the game even.
Has no lows and can’t throw.
He is unplayable.
claw’s normals are not to be underestimated.
mini-sagat is just trash he doesn’t have a throw or low attacks (yeah what EmblemLord edited in)
(19:57:35) Anakron: anotak you know what you forgot on your list
(19:57:58) Anakron: ninja masters, savage reign, kizuna encounter
(20:01:37) Anakron: if you’ve never played ninja masters, you’ll be surprised
hmm I have kizuna encounter but i haven’t played it
PSX Games:
Criticom (Can’t get this to run right though)
Gundam Battle Assault 1
Gundam Battle Assault 2
Dungeons & Dragons: Iron & Blood
Rival Schools (I don’t know if this counts as obscure enough)
Slap Happy Rhythm Busters
Star Wars: Masters of Teras Kali
Tatsunoko Fight
Wu-Tang: Shaolin Style (yes, there’s a fighting game based on rappers)
edit: anyone up for some more games ? i’ll be on IRC.