I stood in corners shooting that whole game.
Hey, did anybody besides me realize that in one of the gameplay videos a remix of dantes theme from DMC1 was playing?
What like Ninja vs. Devil: Crying Gaiden?
We all know its all over when the pirates get involved.
Not bloody likely. I’m positive at some time or another Itagaki vandalized all of the cars of Capcom execs out of spite. He OBVIOUSLY vandalized said vehicles by rubbing his face against them.
I agree with gilgamesh. Those fucking kicks were raw business. I kept rewinding that part.
Itagaki said he has nothing against Capcom in Play magazine a few months back, it’s just that he doesn’t like Resident Evil 4. He said he didn’t like it because you couldn’t walk and shoot at the same time… 
Yeah, how could anyone work with Itagaki really? I’m sure if Capcom did they may have trouble with their friendly relationship with Namco/Bandai/Banpresto (Capcom still makes the Gundam vs. games for them) given all of his Tekken bashing… I’m sure Itagaki doesn’t care and the last thing on his mind is working with other companies… :looney:
Why couldn’t you walk and shoot Capcom? If you have these crazyass mofos coming after you you gonna tell me it makes no sense not to run and shoot? Sidenote f–k Itagaki. He can kiss my ass.
Back to Devil May Cry…
Anyone else here agrees Lady(sexy beast) is related to Dante and Vergil?
LOL but that is like such a minor complaint for you not to like Resident Evil 4. 
Lady’s (Mary you mean?) is not blood related to Dante or Vergil IMHO. She’s a potential love interest for both so yeah… Yuck.
Going by the book Inferno where all of the characters get their names, she’d represent the Virgin Mary of all people at least in name (Dante is Dante, Vergil is Virgil, Trish is Trish, Lucia is Lucia) so any kind of blood retation doesn’t seem likely… Dante and Vergil are brothers but they were connected in many ways in Inferno, Role Model, pupil, tour guide of Hell and tourist for lack of a better explanation, both poets and so on while the Virgin Mary stands above all… now in tight shorts in this reality. :lovin:
Yeah I know about the background on the Divine Comedy. What I was referring to is at the end of mission 13 in DMC3 when Arkham is like"I needed you(Mary) in whose blood flows the same blood of the sacrificed woman." And he says “I expected nothing less of the devils’ descendants(to all 3 of them).” That’s why I thought Lady might be related to them. Plus note how the gate didn’t open until Lady’s blood went in which is also another reason why I thought Lady might be related. I don’t mean like brother and sister. I mean like Sparda and Arkham married sisters. Which explains why Lady can be related to the sons of Sparda and yet not be able to Devil trigger.
Yeah, very recently I read up on the explanation of the Arkham/Lady/Sparda thing but I am trying to remember where… suffice it to say Lady and Dante probably are not blood related or cousins I don’t think… hmm let me retrace my steps… vaguely I remember Arkham having a connection to the old days of Sparda, but not by blood, something about a ritual… cursed marijuana…
Sidenote, someone answer pls:
Non-canonically, Dante is in Jedah’s ending in one of the Darkstalkers endings (I don’t play DS, but I read about it)
Canonically, the Mukai in the DMC universe is the same Mukai in the DS universe?
If so, Dante should be at least as strong as Morrigan, right?
Morrigan is of noble blood, from the King of Mukai right? And Dante is a son of Sparda, who is just as strong, right?
Mind you, I am not familiar with the DS universe.
I only know the DMC Universe from DMC3SE and the anime. I’m a DMC noob
Dante appears in Jedah’s ending in CFJ. Which means it’s a non-canon event since versus games are never really part of storylines.
Chances are he’s stronger than Morrigan and the Darkstalkers within the games. While Mundus is not satan he is satan’s equivalent for DMC according to Capcom. The Darkstalkers equivalent for Satan, Belail defeated Demitri, like very badly… and Demitri is one of the most powerful characters in the series. So by that standard he would be above them. Characters that are not in Darkstalkers hard to say. Jedah’s a good match though with him being a God of sorts.
Yeah when I bring up this example sometimes someone mentions Arthur of Ghouls & Ghosts defeating Lucifer and Loki! Shrug, that series is even more different than DMC and DS than you can even get! Well 2 hits and his armor comes off and he’s dead so his defense sucks, let’s just say Arthur is either incredibly skillfull or a lucky bastard. Eh I don’t think underwear was invented in medieval times so those games have to take place in a seperate universe entirely.
On top of that, Dante can take a hell of a lot of punishment. Bullets to the brain, being impaled by swords, breathing underwater, getting struck by a lighting bolt and this is all before Devil Trigger. We at least know more of the things that Dante can endore and not so much with DS.
That isn’t to say DS characters are weak and despite popular internet theory even Felicia is quite strong in her own right, maybe not as strong as other characters in the game but quite powerful on her own. In DS low level Darkstalkers to weak to be in the games can single handedly take out an army of elite marines. Also humans who accidentally wander into the Makai are instantly turned into slaves. When you get to the higher ups in DS, the gods not featured in the games like S class and beyond, (hmm, maybe Belail is stronger than Mundus, wrap your head around that one… :looney:) Dante may have troubles there. But DMC doesn’t seem to work on a class system AFAIK so can’t really say. Only system I see is Dante and Vergil being close in power and everyone else is below them. :looney:
I suppose you can make a case for either being stronger, though their universes are kind of different. DS sort of works on if you are stronger than your opponent, you will win. DMC works on Dante being backed into a corner and pulling a win out of his buttocks 'cuz he’s the main character. Well fighting games don’t really work the same.
There are a few things that set DMC and Darkstalkers apart. Darkstalkers are generally known by the public in their world while Devils at least seem to be a secret. Also, DS is much more complicated with Demon politics while DMC is much more simple, there’s Earth and Hell and that’s it. And yeah Demons are called Devils in DMC, Darkstalkers in Darkstalkers. Like I said before, the representations of satan are different. Darkstalkers is much more cartoony in nature compared to DMC. Though it is not soooo different that you couldn’t figure out a way for both series to work but officially there have not been any statements connecting both of them together. Neither have a full on presence of Heaven, Lilith was almost a fallen angel character but Capcom changed their minds since there were a lot of characters like that at the time. DMC did have some actual fallen angels as opponents and in the anime a soul did manage to crossover like religous stories, but in either God, Archangels and so on do not get involved in the conflicts nor does christianity have much to do with anything other than calling out sins and little things like that. Crucifixes don’t work on Demitri and chances are they don’t do much in DS land or DMC land. Ditto for Holy Water.
The Makai is sort of depicted as being up in the clouds, Dante’s Hell is depicted as being below the Earth most of the time… but DMC1 and DMC3 sort of switch that up towards the endings. Not that it matters since both are not in this world and they are different dimensions, just like planes aren’t flying over Heaven and people have yet to dig up Hell I guess. There is at least more than one Hell dimension in DS though, if memory serves Zabel/Lord Raptor is in one place and Jedah is definitly in another.
We don’t really know how strong Morrigan is due to her not taking fighting as seriously as say, Demitri. It is conjectured that she is more powerful than Demitri after she fused with Lilith, and if she fuses with her missing third part she might be even more powerful. Capcom never said who defeated Jedah, but I personally believe that it was Morrigan because after she fused with Lilith she would be storyline-wise powerful enough to do it. Demitri is of course another candidate to pull out the win somehow because it is his series - It’s called “Vampire” in Japan afterall lol! Anita is conjectured to be the most powerful of them all, mainly because she is the only one that Jedah fears. Though yeah we don’t know much about what she can really do…
DMC4 will be the shit when it drops. Devil May Cry got me hype. Shit, I can’t wait to actually get the game in my hands. So I can be in my crib with the sound system on blast like did I just do that shit! The only question left is what system to get it for?
And as far as DMC vs. Ninja Gaiden goes, let Dante and Nero have the '07 and Ryu can have the '08 and everyone can enjoy the destruction.
wow, thanks for the complete reply! :tup:
Arthur is incredibly lucky/ barely skilled because he’s still weaksauce. In his underwear, any hit renders him into a skeleton, so he’s still a normal human.
Wasn’t it said somewhere that Akuma, who is one of the strongest in the SF Universe, is like only low-end DS tier?
And also, don’t you find it kinda interesting how in DMC4, one of the bosses is named “Berial”? (Engrish for Belial, I believe)
I don’t think Dante/Vergil can take on those crazy gods in the DS universe, however if Pyron fought Dante mano-a-mano (Like what he did against Demitri? Or was it Morrigan?) I am pretty sure Dante would beat Pyron man to man.
And… Vergil is stronger than Dante, right?
Vergil beat Dante twice, and also, I forgot where I read it, but Vergil actually trains his sword technique, while Dante is lazy and uses guns to make up for it :lol:
Something I need to talk about: Anyone who asks why you can’t move and shoot in RE knows nothing about how the gameplay works.
Just had to say that.
I’m not sure if it was said by Capcom, not saying if it was or wasn’t, just don’t know but I would think that Gouki might take out some low end DSers but when he got too more powerful ones he would get taken out. His trump card, the Shun Goku Satsu sends you to Hell for a second and demons attack your soul. Not only would Gouki be providing some of them free vacations back home but I don’t even think people like Demitri and Morrigan have souls to begin with, I think instead of the demons attacking them they’d prolly slap them five.
If you want some info about how SF characters measure up to DS characters from Capcom, check out the second link in my sig for the translation of CFJ character to character quotes - SHAMELESS PLUG LOL! You can see that Ryu has a tough time against Demitri and Chun-Li has a tough time against Felicia while the DSers are not having trouble at all against SFers. Just got a hold of Shin Gouki’s quotes for the console version so next time maybe will do all of the Shin Gouki vs. DS quotes and see what happens. Yeah whoever was behind the quotes sure seems to know a hell of a lot about Capcom storylines. Morrigan has 100 character to character quotes in the Japanese version of CVS2 (everyone has 100 quotes) that were also not translated but the translations I’ve seen usually bowl down to “I want to sleep with you” to the males so no real indication of power there that I know of.
Dante vs. Vergil - How am I suppose to answer that without having fanboys of one or the other come after me? Hell there are already DS and Gouki fans that want my head! Both have wins over the other but Dante wins in the end of course because it’s his game lol! If it was a tier listing both would be in the same God Tier since the difference doesn’t seem to be that great to me. The rest is left for future games to reveal. Yeah that’s my cop out answer also known as “What do you think? That’s for the gamer to decide.” And I’m out ha ha! :lol:
EDIT: Belail/Berail prolly the same name, in Japan Ls and Rs are kind of interchangeable so to speak. Not that it’s the same person of course in DMC and DS of course. Belail’s official artwork looks really different, he has about 4 arms. There’s two hyper rare drawings of him, whenever Studio Udon gets around to translating the Vampire/Darkstalkers Graphic File it will be available for all to see. For some reason in the Darkstalkers comic, Studio Udon changed his look and make him look like a male older version of Morrigan when that’s not what he looks like. Oh and he is very big like the DMC4 Belail, the sketchy drawing of Demitri standing before him has Demitri looking kind of small.
And I really doubt the DMC4 Belail is as high up there as the one in DS or the actual Satan, it may just be a name. If DMC starts playing around with Hell like Inferno does that Belail may be in charge of one of the dimensions. Interestingly enough, Castlevania is like that and Dracula is a king of one of the levels in Hell too, forget which but that’s where he chills when he dies… up until he finally died and Soma took over of course. I went off on a tangent somewhere…
Here are some new images and vids.
Trish
Lady
Lady entering "Devil Never Cry"
High res shot of Lady
High res shot of Trish
Trish eating pizza with Dante and Lady
Good looks! Lady has really sexied herself up forreal.
On a side note, I HATE watching people play DMC when they don’t know how. That was painful. There was 0% air juggles or pop up of any kind. Jesus…
Man Trish looks a lot better and so does Lady. Nice to see them all chilling together eating Pizza. :lovin:
somebody PLEASE imageshack/photbucket these? ;_; please? i’m at work, and I can’t wait until midnight to see these.