you guys keep playing get good beat portland and in 3s everyone is playable, just some characters need to parry alot more ^^
good characters to learn aside from top 3 and obviously dudley since you guys keep talking about it.
Yang sa2/sa3 i pick 3 when i’m feeling brave or fighting like Q or hugo
elena sa2
ryu any super but you get hella points for picking shinsho
don’t ever play necro unless you are already hella dope with him
alex is good
MAKOTO obviously im biast but still.
urien is dope too!
and GOUKI/AKUMA there!
Common throw set ups:
Many of these are universal so can be used for several if not all characters
cr.lk > walk up > throw
cr.lk > cr.lk > walk up > throw
walk up > throw
Throw > Throw
Empty Jump-In > Throw
Parry > Throw
Dash Back > Dash forward > Throw (also good if used on opponents wake up)
Fake Cross up (I.E. Ken’s j.mk or a correctly angled twins dive kick) > Throw
Some character specific throws:
Dudley: after a wiffer poke ducking > throw on opponents wake up rose > throw
cr.lk x’s 2 > ducking > throw
standing mp (whiffed or blocked)> ducking > throw
Urien: Ex headbutt (wiffed or blocked) > Throw
cr.lp > lp headbutt (whiffed or blocked) > throw
cr.hk > dash towards > throw
j.hk > walk up > throw
standing mp (wiffed or block) > dash up > throw
Makoto:
f.lk xx karaksa
standing HP (blocked) > dash up karaksa
standing MP (blocked) dash up > karaksa on opponents wake up standing lp > karaksa
Modesty aside I’d say I’m pretty fuckin’ good at 3s, I wish I had some offline competition. And if there can only be one highlander/Urien, I challenge you to a first to 5 to see who gets to be the only Urien! I’m just gonna do Oro unblockables if I don’t get to be aegisboy. :razz:
No, seriously. We. Need. A. Scene. I want to be able to use my own stick, too. Even other people can use it since I doubt everyone has their own stick… I just… ugh, Happs. I can’t do anything right on Happs. I’m even willing to teach anyone tricks with any character if it’ll get more people to play. I’m pretty knowledgeable since I have a problem sticking to one character.
That’s another thing, 3s may only have 3 characters in high level play, but Seattle players don’t have a problem picking who they like. There’s a handful of Kens and like a Chun but it’s really not nearly as bad as Marvel. Granted, the lower tiers in Marvel have no chance against the god tier so everyone just picks god tier and it’s not quite like that in 3s. Which is why it > Marvel.
A lot of things also I realized, people who just learned how to parry, abuse it like it’s going to win them matches 100% of the time.
You shouldn’t parry every chance you get.
You kinda have to feel out what, when and how you want to parry.
It also goes hand and hand with some times blocking > parrying
Some times even getting hit > parrying or blocking.
Lemme explain the above statement.
Alex Valle once said: Some time when I’m in a good lead (usually 3/4 of my life or a round on them) if I’m playing Chun and having diffaculty getting close, I’ll LET them land a cr.mk xx hyouku-sen on me just so I’ll be next to them to mount SOME SORT of offensive. Cause if I let them control the match and I just parry random far fierces or build meter, it doesn’t get me any where. So, build their confidence LET them hit you, then mount your offensive. It shakes a lot of players up more than you think it would."
I personally think it applies to more than just Chun. I think it’s universal knowledge, just depends on the situation.
Kinda like sacrificial throws in ST. Get hit on a jump in, throw the nigga. (Zangief and T.Hawwwkkk)
In short…
Cause yeah, parrying random shit is cool, but due to too much, you have no time to mount any sort of offensive outside of a throw. And unless your HUGO-SEX! That shit won’t fly. Cause lets face it. Parry xx 360/720 is pretty sexy. I’d yes homo for it almost.
I might just make a “Ask Stu about 3S” thread and answer anything I can to the best of my abilities.While also researching in the main forums. For new stuff/stuff I didn’t know.
Also, I didn’t mean take a super combo to the face in ST. That is dumb, but if say, guile tries to fake cross you up with a j.lk, it hits you and you do a 360 or a throw. Something along those lines. I know taking a hit is usually never a good thing, but some times it comes in handy (lol, S-GROOVE!)
3rd strike is nothing like st or cvs2 take that into consideration when you play. you can not throw from hit stun. fatbear is right don’t ever take hits, the more hit’s you tke the more damage you take.
don’t parry either unless you are absolutllly 100% sure you can. on thing portland guys have taught me is “blocking is top tier” and it’s nothing short of the truth
shoto’s have wicked tick throw set ups with their respected kara throws
akuma/ryu twards strong~ throw
Ken foward~ throw
you can do them after a jab or short (Crouching as well) but i don’t suggest using it every time ofcourse it’s just a good mix up. the most important thing to remember is find a character and if you like that character stick with it! and it will pay off in the end no matter the tier system.
what made you guys stop wanting to play in the first place, was it the stranglehold of LTB that lead to the lack of interest in 3rd stirke?
if that WAS a very big factor, where is LTB now? even your best in seattle are beatable in 3s not discounting there skill because your 3rd strike is strong and i have alot of respect for the good players up there. but alot of the stuff i hear you guys say is dudley is dope and 3s sucks lol i don’t want to push a game on you guys if you are absolutley not interested i just want to re-ignite that flame if possible becaue i feel we can turn the northwest into a dominating fighting game force.
i notice that one of the best ways to get good at this game is just to not stop playing all of you should know or at least remember you combo’s i really encourage people to play a broader cast than ken chun yun and ~ dudley lol don’t get me wrong dudley is dope but i requires ALOT of skill to play at a high level, mainly because you can’t get away with spamming twards fierce all day at the higher level of play.
i don’t even know why i’m going on this crusade to get seattle to play 3s i just think you guys have too much potential to just let it go to waste ya know? you guys already are a force to be reckoned with in marvel. why not expand on that reputation, but again only if you want to, there just doesn’t seem like a reason for you not to.
I can’t speak for the new era 3s players, but when I played back at Lanwerx, what stopped that was that Lanwerx died. Then all the cabinets moved to Woodinville Lanwerx, and there was only one tourney there before drama ensued with LTB and everyone else so everyone stopped going there. Ever since people weren’t really playing 3S around here. Same exact situation with CvS2.
NEGRO EDIT-In my case, I played again for a minute, but then I was like “man this game is hella boring!” Then I stopped playing. =/
It’s just Marvel, I think. Honestly, since I got into Marvel, I’ve played zero 3s. I used to play Chun/Ken/Necro, but I went to GW on saturday and got STOMPED by some black dude I vaguely recognize and some tall, thick blonde white dude playing oro. They told me Jason (beastly Oro jason) was on his way, too. I just walked away. I wasn’t having any fun at all.
GW cabs SUCK. They need some soft springs in there bad.
This prob has a lot to do with 3s scene and lack of it. That 80cents a game play and bar that doesn’t even care about the arcade situation. But back to the quote it takes a certain type of person to progression in a game like 3s. You have to be willing to lose greatly and learn from your mistakes and research as much as possible.
I’m not surprised about the "I quit " and “this stick and that stick doesn’t work” everyday type of shit because people just aren’t built to take a loss over and over to get better.
jason isn’t all that tough, he’s solid definatly and a cool guy but he’s beatable with a little patience. and 1 game shouldn’t take away from anyother game in my opinion look at portland we all play like 3 games i mean wtf is up with that. were all respectivly good in each game too. also like most games just because you use top tier doesn’t mean you’ll win. pick a character you like over a character that you think has a better chance of winning. 3s is kind of loyal the more you choose a character the better that character treats you. =D
ANYWAY
my point is don’t let thick white dude or random black dude get to you because you loose. just be patient, be observant, and most of all don’t punish things with a throw lol. learn a combo learn an easy combo like c.foward insert special here very effective with yang. i really just want seattle to get there status back in 3s =D so portland has good competition ^^
PS everytime we do a tourney the only reason why don’t do marvel is because no one shows up. if people show up for that stuff we’d do marvel. so not coming to portland with the excuse of no marvel is kind of redundent.
Big part. 80 cents to play a game that should be a quarter a play. The thing is, I’m not at all used to p360s (which is what GW uses), and 8-ways are always better for 3s and CVS2. When I miss a diagonal because I missed by half a mm, I get super pissed. I can take losses and learn from them. After all, I played against Row and Nolan for an hour straight just losing to Row’s Cable bull**** and Nolan’s awesome Sent. It’s when I’m losing because of the technical side that I get frustrated. If I’m not having fun playing a game, I’ll quit before I start seething at everyone who looks in my direction, which I will do after a period of time.
I used to be quite good with chun. It’s just that being out of practice affects your game too much. I play Marvel, ST, and CVS2. If I split my time between more games, I’ll either have to spend too much time on video games or suffer in skill in each respective title. There’s no way I’m taking the first option.
Yeah I would seriously get back into 3s if I could play at someones place with PS2 speed and Japanese sticks, BC play has really spoiled me in terms of my inability to play on US sticks LOL
We’re always up to play (at the least) 3s. We’ve a Gamecube, 2 Deamcasts (Kuenai has the third), 4 PS2s, 2 unmodded HRAPS (working on getting seimistu/Sanwa parts).
So, com over and play or to assassinate me… the struggle will not be quick…
learn a combo learn an easy combo like c.foward insert special here very effective with yang. i really just want seattle to get there status back in 3s =D so portland has good competition ^^
It’d probably help.