I’ve been using Strange(EoA)/Hulk(Gamma Charge AA)/Doom(Plasma Beam)
Hulk’s assist functions as a gtfo assist for Strange (I know it’s not invincible, but it has super armor and comes out rather quickly) and Doom’s plasma beam for teleport mixups. When Hulk is out in front, plasma beam helps me get in and once I have them in the corner, EoA functions as the lockdown. EoA can also extend combos off of Hulk’s OTG gamma wave. You might even be able to do a fully charged punch when they’re caught in the EoA (I will test this later). Doom is a solid anchor for just about any team.
I may also toy arround with Doom’s Hidden missile assist.
Im fairly new to MvC and am still learning how to not be a scrub. Dr. Strange is just too badass not to play. So far I feel pretty comfortable with him and storm teamed up. You can DHC from Dr.'s Counter or Book into Hail, and whirlwind assist seems to generally complement Dr.'s keepaway and mixups. But Im not too experienced with team construction, should I be looking for a point character to put in front of these two, or an anchor to go after them? My gut tells me to put strange on point, storm in the middle, and then a third character that is a good anchor and has an good vertical hitting assist, but I dont know who that character would be. Any suggestions on a 3rd for me? preferably one that can be played with mediocre execution. also, is this whole post way off, or am I making decent decisions?
What do you guys think about Strange as an Anchor? My team is ‘‘Dante, Vergil’’ at the moment and Im looking at a third. The only 2 chars I really looked forward to were Vergil and Strange and I’m still thinking of having him last. I see him as second in a lot of teams however though, I guess he needs an assist ?
I do have Vergil, who is most likely a very solid anchor but I don’t know how his assists will compliment Strange. (Although Vise-Versa, Vergil with Strange’s beams backing him up is deadly. I thought his beam assist would suck but it is insane). Also he’s def. not easy to get used too lol, he’s veryyy slow/sluggish but at least he got Phoenix like Tele’s. Im just having trouble overall starting his game, I have no clue atm. But ill continue training
I dont know what it is about strange but i find him very difficult to use, without assists, it just seems impossible. need a beam or something for left right mixusp and his normals leave a lot to be desired.
also its notlike he can really open people up since he has no airdash or legitimate overhead. i like him on point or at 2nd
Strange as anchor is basically not really good for much but being a really bad version of Dorm as anchor IMO. He can’t put yellow graces on the screen safely without random burning meters on vishantis so it’s not really a good look. The yellow graces are the key to his offense and his anchor game just doesn’t support that. He’s a good assist killer in XF3 but so is Dorm and Akuma and they can do way much more. Playing Strange as anchor is the way scrubs will play Strange and that’s about it.
ok guys… up until now I’ve been hating on strange’s assists so hard since startup is so slow, but I actually gotta give it up to his Double Bolt assist. The applications for certain characters are very godlike. It does great damage and only does 2 combo hits which obviously means no noticeable hitstun or damage scaling… very cool
Here are a couple character specific examples:
One of Hawkeye’s few flaws is that his normals are on rapid fire and he only has 2 safe hits that you have to confirm off of since his slide, f.H, and launcher are all punishable. BoB can make Hawkeye’s normally very punishable chain give a frame advantage on block because how long the assist stays out there. And if the chain does hit, then it does great damage and barely any scaling making the rest of the combo very easy to complete whereas other assists would totally make the rest of the timing strict and inconsistent
Visual Example
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Zero is another character that can benefit from this assist in a huge way. What seems to be the biggest complaint of Zero users in UMVC3 is how the new hitstun scaling totally destroyed his combos. He couldn’t get any of his old combo enders he used to because they would pop out super easily… even mid assist. Now what BoB does is not only allow him to get the damage he used to get (since it doesn’t mess with your hit or damage scaling) but it unlocks a super easy corner-to-corner combo (which normally doesn’t exist with other assists or using zero’s self-OTG). This is godlike for zero because a lot of times you find yourself comboing them on the opposite side of a corner because of command dash mixups and should now be even more apparent since his lightning crosses up in corners.
Corner to Corner, no scaling
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Also if you trap your opponent in the corner and call BoB while blockstringing them, it gives Drones type of pressure since he’s just out there for so long making the opponents weary of trying to retaliate after pushblocking. And Yes I know that so much of the cast can duck under the hitbox, but it’s the same premise of not attacking during haggar assist. Your hitboxes can make you taller and you might get tagged by a bolt which will lead to a full corner combo, and with the new tech coming out from the zero quarters, that’s definitely a character death.
Thanks guys. Man that sucks, I hope I can make my team work. I really want Dante first too. Ill mess around with Vergil being last but I don’t like his assists for Strange. Might just put Strange in my Strider team
And yea I thought I’d hate Bolts but its not to bad if called early enough, I use teleport chars too and the lockdown or at least him covering the screen for the time that he does is great, he does it for so long.
It seems like everyone likes vergil as anchor, so go dante strange vergil. I play strange second normally after zero because i feel his EoA helps zero a lot. and he does really well in that spot, especially when suplemented with plasma beam. Which assist are you using for vergil? i think rapid slash or whatever woudl be your best choice, thats my assist of choice with him.
Bolts outside of a combo seem too risky to me, ever since i noticed they can be ducked i was turned off to them. I thought i was gunna replace doom with strange and keep dante, but since dante changed so much ive put him on the shelf for now and doom helps strange a lot as anchor. Idk i need to play around with them, but outside of specific combos or full screen uses, i don’t like them. I think EoA is more versatile
Yea, but I feel like Vergil’s assists won’t compliment Strange that well. His slashes are good but its not quite a beam, it does push away even on block though so hm. And yea I was dissapointed as soon as I saw Bolts being duckable, but Ive noticed, even if the opponents can duck under it they are still stuck from moving for a great amount of time = several mixups. Although I haven’t been invincible-super-reversal’d yet lol
And yea I was disappointed with some of the Dante changes too but ive adjusted some things and he’s still boss. Missed a lot of combos cause of his normals though ><. Im playing Frank now and he’s a lot of fun, love the level ups/style so Frank, Dante, Vergil might become a team. I want Strange still though so I might put him as second anyways or at least in my Strider team.
Edit: Wow Frank And Dante teamed up is stoopid good lol
I’ve been using Fist, Strange, ??? Lately. Bolts are the only assist that really works to help me get in with Fist. It keeps the opponent in a standing state so it gives time to wave over and begin a combo. Plus since there is time between bolts there’s the chance to jump over them and get the cross up.
Also SoV dhcs well into Spirit of the Dragon for some solid added damage. Fists dragon kick assist is money in general and I’ve had some success with teleport mix ups and, after the wall bounce, teleporting over for a combo.
Thoughts?
I’ve been using Task as a third just cause I’m solid with him but I really wanna drop him. Any gaps in this team you’d recommend to fill? Ive got little interest in Doom or Sentinel.
I’m running Zero (Ryuenjin) / Iron Man (Unibeam) / Strange (Eye) and I love it. Eye is absolutely ridiculous for lockdown and creating resets. I have to completely disagree with anyone saying Strange is not good as an anchor. I basically play him like Wesker in XF3 and it works really well (also having SoV > XFC > kill a character or two is always nice). He takes a lot of time to even get remotely decent with though. My Strange was getting bodied for free probably in the first 20 games I played him in but I started getting a feel for him after a while (honestly find someone who you are a little better than and practice Strange on them because it’s going to take a while to get used to all of Strange’s options) and I see him as potential S tier both in general and as an anchor now.
I’ll try to get some match videos up in the next week or two.
Strange as anchor is doable, but will be difficult if your opponent has teleporters and an assist to back them up (e.g. wesker or dante w/______)
I’ve been playing Firebrand/Strange/Rider (I don’t have a great backup assist with this team unless I’m playing someone who loves to rushdown, then Rider’s hell spire (flames on ground) help and stops them, then I’d teleport to mix them up.
I’m going to be running Strange(b)/Strider(b)/Sent(a). I really do believe that that will be a strong team. Two great assists to help Strange with mixups and build time for orbs. [note: Strider’s Vajuar assist is ‘b’, right? That is what I meant, so if its wrong, at least you know I meant Vaj :tup:]
I found out the hard way about having Strange as anchor on my Shuma/Dorm/ Strange team. Im playing Dante/GhostRider/Strange now and I feel that its better to have strange on point
I see Strange being a powerful anchor against Dark Phoenix, especially if he’s loaded with meter. Since every single normal of Dark Phoenix’s becomes imbued with projectiles, 7 Rings can easily trigger and deal ~360k fully mashed. Which IIRC is enough to instantly kill Dark Phoenix given her health reduction. Spell of Vishanti also keeps her from pressing buttons too, though it doesn’t one-shot her.
I use Dorm(pillar), Wesker(gunshot), Strange(Bolts). My strat with this team is to use the bolts assist for teleport mixup, I’m basicly not stopping. It builds enough meter so that strange can SoV xf and spam light daggers, his spells come out fast so i abuse it when they’re in the corner.