Any Balrog option selects if they wake up with an armored dash straight?
Or does the armor mess with the option selects?
Yeah the armor prevents os from working, because the normal you buffer the os in is making contact, so it’s like they blocked it (os doesn’t come out) or they didn’t and your special from your normal, if it’s cancellable, but that means it wasn’t an os in the first place.
If you expect it, go for a throw or an armor breaking move.
for punishing honda’s mp and hp headbutts do you need to be standing? also are mk ruff and U2 the only things to punish with and does it require reversal or non-reversal timing?
Any advice on Gief(buttons, AA,…)?
Is there anything I can do on his wake up?
Is there anything I can do on my wake up :D?
abuse s.hk against gief. ex cu is throw invincible, keep that in the back of your mind.
How do others find Viper? I dont think ive ever lost to her as Cody. Am I alone on this?
s.HK is not enough, as his standing jab(I think) is really good.
I also have issues with jump-ins as I need to use all 3(b.MP, HK and RH RK) depending on the range and the button Gief is using.
I think that in the end the main problem is that my footsie game is not good enough.
I was kind of hoping that I am using the wrong buttons or that there is some wake up info I am missing :).
Anyway, info on the first page was not updated in a while.
Do you think that we could update it to look similar to this - http://www.option-select.com/strategy/matchup/?m=103&c=10 ? Maybe even adding additional sections(AA, OS, wake-up,…).
this games lifespan is nearing its end. doesn’t mean it won’t be played, but the interest in doing such time consuming stuff is waning as less new players will pick the game up.
It’s Sad, but the end is drawing near.
Ya I beat a lot of vipers with cody but it’s only online and it’s really hard to find good vipers players. When I do play soild vipers the matchup is really hard but the OS EX CU off of back throw found by Packz is really helpful.
any answer to Seth players? after they do their dumb combo in the air, he would command throw me right after i land on the ground. It is getting really annoying now as i am entering in a skill level where there are more Seths
It’s really a gamble. At least under most circunstances the risk/reward is in your favor. I’m not gonna mention the obvious stuff like neutral jump if you think he’s gonna spd, block if you feel a meaty/srk, etc, but some tidbits you should consider are that ex criminal upper is throw invulnerable, can get past some lights (depends on timing) and is somewhat hard to punish.
Also, in most circunstances i’d rather eat his bnb into legs than get spd’d and have to deal with a post spd situation. After legs you can quick rise or not, dust, dust fadc, etc, whereas blocking after a spd is very, very hard. A lot of players just focus backdash out of that mixups, but unfortunately cody can’t do that due to having no backdash.
Keep Seth out, Cody is good at this. Seth cannot get in on Cody easily without meter if you have some solid reactions. If Seth gets in, don’t be too scared of SPD. Block when you can, jump out if you think you see a Tanden coming (or better yet, can react to it.) EX Zonk guessing is OK through strings as long as you’re not under 50% (don’t try to EX Zonk on wake up though.) Don’t be afraid to jump every now and then after Seth does a block string. A large part of beating Seth is psychological, you need to make the Seth player second guess themselves when they want to Tanden. Plus one whiffed Tanden is practically the game for you.
Do not recommend eating Hyakuretsukyaku. The corner is the last place you want to be against Seth. He also gets to put you in an extremely good guessing game if you don’t quick rise and he can safely get back in your face if you do. Once you’re caught trying to jump out of another SPD, you’ll likely eat cr.LP, cst.HP (combo) for big damage and likely end up in the corner with Seth in your face.
Basically just keep this stuff in mind:
Seth has to grab you six or seven times to kill you.
One bad SPD/Tanden will take him down 40-60%.
SPD -> dash forward: walks forward, will cross up. doesn’t / only slightly, will not cross up.
Dive kick will almost never cross up and it usually won’t lead into anything in the off chance it does unless you’re in the corner.
also focus -> backdash gets blown up by a lot of Seth’s options (unless you’re Chun)
Why you guys don’t have qa section. So anyway I will ask here.
1- is the frame data correct for bad spray zomg 25f startup? 29f recovery? -20 on block?
2- Does it change codys wakeup timing??? Early wakeup?
3- can you fadc it on block? If yes, then are you - or + or maybe even?
- seems legit.
- not that I am aware off.
- yes, if you back dash it you should be rather safe.
I don’t know anything about frame data,but I know you can meaty into counter hit bad spray for free.
Crmk goes under her flame kicks and crack kick F.HK goes over her seismos… those are some good things to know in that matchup. regardless the best way to get better at the viper matchup is to find a decent viper player and just continue playing against them… its just one of those matchups u gotta keep playing so u can start feeling a little more confident in your play. but of course be ready to get frustrated and beat up a little in the beginning. =)
So I need some help with Cammy and Rose an Rufus for some reason with All three I feel that I can’t do anything without getting caught by there pokes, pretty much its a that I just don’t have the match up experience so if anyone has videos to show that would be greatly appreciated. Especially for Rufus thanks alot.
vs rose, learn to read backdashes and punish accordingly. Also, learn when you can punish spirals.
vs rufus, I like to use neutral jump mk to control space and keep him from dive kicking you into oblivion. I’ve also seen momochi use reversal hk ruffian to punish ex messiah on block. It beats 2 of rufus’s follow ups and trades with the other.
I’ve seen Momochi play against Andreas recently and he still doesn’t know about this:
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Thanks Packz!