in this game their are no free victorys especialy against t hawk,the second you start doubting a characters tools and abilities is the same second you set yourself up for failure<-somebody write that ish down lol jk.but seriously i think it is 6-4 t.hawk but ive played a few amasing t.hawks and giefs and its no cake walk.when you get close its like playing russian roulette(spellcheck)
and when ppl make statements like t"his character is free" i never take them seriously. i dont care how good you are with cody someone legit wit gief who has been practicing with him a year + isnt going to let you walk all over them “for free”. i must not understand the term very well because it doesnt make sense to me
I dont want to insult him because im interested in knowing why he says “its free” :). I try not to start arguments online. But i am interested in everyone’s opinion.
Ultra 2 punishes anything T.Hawk does to get in pretty much. HK Ruffian will stuff any Condor Dive clean. Once he knoes he cant Condor Dive for free, you can throw rocks at him all day until he edges his way closer. The match is free until one of two things happen:
- You trap yourself in a corner
- You fall into T.Hawks oki
If you are in the corner then you are gonna have to find a way out…before t.hawk gets in.
Not really sure yet why i should be scared of T.Hawks oki. Granted i haven’t played many good T.Hawks but why can’t i backdash for free when he starts his blockstring? At least with Zangief if they try to backdash or jump out mid blockstring you could hit confirm into EX Green Hand and reset the situation, but what does T.Hawk have?
I think Gief will be a lot harder than Hawk is tbh.
then your a better man than me cuz i call’em out lol
This, basically. I’ve already explained why Cody owns Hawk. Though the above sums it up well. It’s not a 10:0 match, though that’s not what I was saying by ‘free’, lol.
For gief, the few extra things he has, green hand and lariat, get beaten clean by Zonk and HK ruffian. All of his jump-ins are so easily punishable, so he’s going to have a hard time getting in. Rocks do chip and keep him back. Fake rocks just mind fuck him into doing SOMETHING, and everything he does is punishable. If he does nothing, then there’s not a problem.
oh i see you find this match up easier because its difficult for t.hawk to get in on your cody.why did you just say so?lol
yo makoto is free tho any blocked hayate is a free combo
she is free on wake up and easy to OS mk ruffian her (this is prolly my fav OS right now)
s fp and back mp stuffs whatever she doe sin the air and her axe kick
prolly what will happen for a seasoned mak to try and win this game is to just wait u out and try to get an FA in and start a karakusa mux up game with kara kara and s mp into whatever as well as her s mk
shouldnt be too hard to punish makoto like the dirty slut she is
never cmk a gief or a t hawk…they will throw you and it will piss you off.
I’m really having very few problems with Sagat. c.mk ruins his day like nobodies business. He throws high fireball? c.mk He throws low fireball? Towards/neutral/small jump or focus/bingo through. He does tiger knee? C.mk and then do free punish combo (I like s.hp->fierce cu) If he jums you can beat out most of his shit with c.hp or b.mp (or c.mk, lol). Once you start playing the wakeup game I like to bait wakeup shenanigans with fake rocks or the standard early sweep. Every time he does a tiger uppercut/tiger knee when you’re near you should be able to at least punish with mk ruffian or a decent punish combo.
i used to use slide alot when ssf4 first dropped i need to get bak on it lol
Needs an honest opinion on this:
When it’s a mirror match up, would you say that the first one to get the knife has a huge advantage in the match?
Cause I find that it was rather easy to rush down against Cody with the knife in hand and doing quick strings of st. lp and use RK to score a knock down or close on him.
I wouldn’t say the knife is an advantage at all for Cody.
If anything it actually hinders Cody’s abilities IMO since you can’t BNB, any throw attempt makes you lose the knife, during the pickup you can be punished full-screen from some chars, standard knife BNB does less damage than regular unknifed BNB combo, and your precious b.MP is gone.
Though the st. hp w/ knife looks like its useful against Gief/Hawk
jumping jab wreks gief. it owns his lariat unless it is perfectly timed.(hit him on his thick skull). and any move he does when he is not right next to you is probably a setup. he is trying to train a response in you.hit and run. but please dont just run. cody can take him without running for a timeout.
I’ve played a few Guile’s online today. Most of them were one trick ponies too used to relying on traping with booms - they folded like cardboard once I started Zonking through the sonic booms. U2 also goes through them if you time it right (not very hard at all by this boards standards).
You can play the projectile game as well as him and you don’t have to fall for his traps if you stay focused. Get in there and stay in there.
The knife is good but only because it changes the pace of a match. Once you pick up the knife most opponents naturally become more defensive. They want to just wait for you to make a mistake and jab the knife away from you. So you have to use this to your advanatage and generate some rushdown. If your opponent doesnt change playstyle punish them with down light punch. Let them jump in and punish with down hard punch. If you can generate enough offense with the knife you can even make poeple scared of you picking it up. Thats when you can stand over the knife and press crouch and feint picking it up to maybe trick your opponent into doing something stupid.
I think at the end of a match the knife becomes really good. It takes good chip damage and down light punch with knife i think may be faster than normal down light punch.
As far as gameplay i dont think the knife improves cody very much, its just something else for cody to pick up and hit poeple with 
EDIT: i found a match of mike ross (t hawk) vs demon hyo (cody). demon hyo gets the knife and stabs T hawk alot. In the end T hawk wins … but it is early matches i think.
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Hyo: SHANKSHANKSHANKSHANKSHANK
Ross: “Yo, we got problems!”
in a mirrior its actually whoever is patient because without the knife you can turtle and rock throw inti you get the other cody to jump and make him drop it with a meaty anti air h.rk. but if you try n rushdown a shank wielding cody you will take alot of damage in the process.i lost to a cody today because i tryed to rush him down while he had the knife
what do you do against adon??? he’s a pain man
Bingo through Jag Tooths and I think it works if timed right agst Jaguar Kick.
Any tips on wall diving Vegas other then Focus Attacks? I have a friend that is really really good at nailing Izuna drops… need to figure out how to counter that… Everytime I FA to absorb I get thrown 
Any idea when first posts in the thread will be updated? I guess Ill dig around for Blanka Counters… I’m sure they are hidden here in this thread.