We already defeated Sheng-long! The Akuma Video Thread

Check out the Tier thread as I was talking about it and the setups I noticed Tokido using there. It’s not that good IMO, but it does have some situational uses. Probably a good bet for the Rufus match and characters without an invincible reversal.

Exciting find. I don’t mind as long as you share it with us soon.

Tokido makes Akuma´s stun power not seem so ridiculously nerfed compared to vanilla.

PS: What does EG. stands for? Eggnog?

Evil Geniuses. Gamer group.

Evil Geniuses - myEG.net

does it start with j.short?

Yeah, I’m guessing you found something like it also? Was there any flaw you found to it?

My setup will make:
-the j. lk unblockable,
-option select sweep if they backdash,
-all dp’s will whiff (OS sweep comes out but there is enough time to recover and do full BnB combo with st. hp), and
-super and ultra whiff.

The opponent can focus absorb and dash out but the setup makes the j. lk hit meaty so they will have to do the focus attack with strict timing in order for it to come out.

I only tried the setup on Ryu, Chun, and Guile so far, with it only working on Ryu. Which is fine with me because the other two are already relatively easier to mixup.

i stumbled onto it a while ago but couldnt recreate it easily. I figured if it was legit someone would have already implemented it consistently into their game. if you’ve got the right setup congrats, and i had only tried it on ryu and ken.

We just got Ono’d…

Lol okay, so I just wanted to get it perfect. :stuck_out_tongue:

So, to test out the unblockable, you want to have Ryu as player 1 and Akuma as player 2. Record the following setup and then replay and try to block it.

The setup is have your opponent in either of the corners then do the following:
forward throw, immediate far st. mp whiff, forward dash, jumping lk (with OS sweep)

This jumping lk will be unblockable. If they are holding an direction except for down-back (down and towards the corner), they will be standing and YOU will be in the corner now. Finish the combo with cr. lp, st. hp xx lk Tatsu, hp srk.
If they were holding down-back, THEY will be in the corner and in crouching position. Finish the combo with cr. lp, st. hp xx hp srk or whatever.

If they backdash, you will be in the corner and your option select sweep will catch them.

If they do any strength of Shoryuken, your option select sweep comes out but you can punish with st. hp xx lk Tatsu, hp srk.

If they focus absorb and backdash away from the corner immediately, your cr. lp will hit them perfectly during the 9th frame grounded frame of Ryu’s backdash. So you still can get a full combo. However, if they focus absorb, wait a little, and then backdash out, they will get out.

If they Ultra or Super, you will be in the corner and they will throw do the Ultra/Super in the opposite direction.

So, there it is. If you guys are not getting it, try using turbo on mp at first to help you time that whiff far st. mp IMMEDIATELY after your throw is done.

Important note:
-If you get the far st. mp perfectly, the above outcomes should take place.
-If you time it 1 frame off, the above outcomes take place with one exception: if they lp or hp srk, your jumping lk will reset them (which is very bad since it leads to very little damage). But the jumping lk will still be an unblockable.
-If you are 2 frames or more off, the jumping lk will NOT be an unblockable any more. However, it will still create a very ambiguous and weird situation. So, it’s not even that bad! :bgrin:

And I’m testing it as of right now on characters. Right now, I only got it to work on Ryu. More to come!

That’s respectable that you would give away info like that so readily.

I guess even if they know there’s nothing they can do, haha.

Will test out in a bit.

Hah, all this time I just thought j.shorts in the corner were just too ambiguous that they weren’t blocked consistently. Thanks for sharing!

Well, definitely doesn’t work in Vanilla for PC.

I’ll have to test it for real later today when I won’t wake up everyone in my apartment. (Someone invent a silent stick already!)

If it works, we’ll dub it the Richard Special (after Tokido Special) :smiley:

Can’t get it to work in SSF4. Gonna need a vid of the setup Richard.

yeah i didnt set it up like this i just got lucky and timed it right a few times,but i didnt think it could be done consistently, good stuff rich

I’m not having any luck myself either, have tried in both corners but the best I’ve come up with using the above method is a jumping lk that’s actually blockable in either direction!
Worst is that I’m doing it too fast and have landed before ryu was fully standing… I guess it’s somewhere inbetween.

Seconding a request for a video, that way we can actually count the frames, and see if the setup matches 100% or not.

Edit: I’ve done it! Making a video now. Since this is thanks to Richard, I’m going to wait for him to give the ok on me sharing it.

Thanks for sharing this information with us Richard.
I did some quick testing i got this unblockable to work on the following characters :
Ryu
Ken
Makoto

Can’t wait for your more detailed list.

Of course you can make a video. It would be ironic if I posted this in the video thread without any video footage. :arazz:

I actually got the same, but I didn’t go through all the characters since I was sleepy. I only went through like half the top row of the character select. :stuck_out_tongue:

But you tested everyone? If so, I guess it only works on these three. Sweeet. :smiley:

Yeah i went through the whole cast

Is this something similar to that jab dp juggle Tokido was doing at SCR? I noticed he only followed up dp with a jump in short when in the corners. The only other time he did it from midscreen he dashed in.