I’m not sure… I’ll have to go look at the inputs. Though to be honest, I turned them off after I saw half of the first round: the amount of mashing done by both sides was rather disconcerting. I rather keep my high opinion of their play unsoiled this way.
On a side note, it’s not as easy as it seems - I had a blanka do that same maneuver on me in a match recently. If done at the right time (just as you’re getting up), it kinda throws your timing off for the wakeup teleport.
@ VersatileBJN: he’s not the only one that switched mains. Mago’s now playing Fei. Maybe more will change allegiance once SSFIV AE comes out. Wouldn’t it be freaky if someone like JR switched mains? I wonder what him playing with Sakura would be like…
Sometimes when they do those ambiguous cross up ultra setups (sim as well), if it is going to cross up and you wake up on a frame it’s meant to cross up then you will most likely get an autocorrect teleport putting you straight into the ultra.
True, but that wasn’t the case here: Tokido never got the teleport off, even though he managed to mash it out three times after the windup to Blanka’s Ultra was done. Maybe I should re-capture the match and turn inputs on…
On a side note, any other top-level Akumas I could be looking for? Finding matches with Tokido isn’t easy (I only found that one in three days) and then, only because I know what his XBL GT is…
nah the thing is that all of the top akumas didnt really kick into overdrive with akuma’s ssf4 version for the sake of doing well at sf4 in sbo,he said so himself.
Quick question, is there a trick to doing this? I’ve been in practice for a while and the super flash doesn’t come until the after first roundhouse is finished. The video has the super flash right as the first roundhouse starts up. Any tips?
hey rugi, could you record matches vs E.honda/Ryu players and upload them to your channel? I need a bit of help with that matchup and it would be nice to actually see the match and hear some commentary about how to deal with them.
I honestly believe this is an unfair analogy. We should be looking at these fights as the best Ryu in SSF4 and the best Akuma for SSF4.
Just because Daigo is most likely the best player in SSF4 doesn’t mean we can say thats why he won most of the matches. Tokido, in my opinion, has the best Akuma in SSF4. I’m more of a Momochi fan but since he dropped him for Ken we can’t say much about him. But Tokido should be seen as the highest level Akuma has gotten in this game, especially if you agree that hes one of the best. Daigo the top Ryu Vs. Tokido the top Akuma.
If you really look at all the fights Tokidos vortex wasn’t doing anything to Daigo at the last few vids. Besides doing block strings, Daigo autocorrected so many dps against his demonflip it was too much to count. The fact that Akuma can’t sweep Ryu after the tatsu makes the match even harder. It doesn’t really matter if hes getting free jump ins with ex fireballs, especially if hes gonna just cr.jab x3 then back dash. It wasn’t affecting Daigo too much, which is why Daigo never just threw anything out, he was fine just blocking.
Im pretty sure im not alone here, but I thought Daigos footies were significantly better than Tokidos. He caught Tokido with the same setup a whole lot which I never saw before that kept catching me off guard as well while watching the videos. He would empty jump towards Akumas tip of the sweep distance and would just do s.lk. Ryus leg goes straight up, then boom Daigo sweeps Tokidos sweep. It was awesome.
Like you said, Tokido did many bnb combos and Daigo just did really simple combos to defeat him. Put simply, Daigo was perfect at being patient and waiting for mistakes. If this is what was needed to win then that should be it, the best Akuma got beaten by the best Ryu. He won 6-4. No other Ryu player in the world would have beaten Tokido in the best to 100, it would take the best Ryu.
Which is why I believe Momochi was better than Tokido when he played with Akuma. If you watch all of their fights, Daigo was usually scared to even walk up to Momochi, let alone do combos or just free jump in and shit. Momochi, please pick up Akuma again, you was damn near perfect with him.
Tokido is the yardstick for Akuma now and he’s a damn fine player who I maintain is steadily getting better. He uses Akuma’s options very well and plays a very calculated style. One of Tokido’s weaknesses that I can see however is his AA. The dude rarely smashes opponents with AA srks. Granted many instances to AA can be tight, he often lets a lot of jump-ins go completely unpunished. An important part of any player’s defence and maintaining their space is AA without question. If you can send the message that you cannot be jumped in on, you force your opponent to play a sizable part of the match under your terms. I think if Tokido stepped up his AA he’d level up significantly. Daigo on the other hand doesn’t let anyone jump in on him. Ever. His AA is ridiculously consistent.
When he played here I watched him AA essentially every attempt people made to jump in on him. After being daunted by a couple of AA punches to the face people were then forced to try and get creative at approaching him on the ground or forcing him to come to them. Problem here is that Daigo’s footsies and ground approach is insanely good combined with an attack that I’m yet to see matched in person. Watching Daigo lay players to waste in person really is a treat and its something that match videos don’t come close to capturing.
With that in mind it illustrated to me just how strong a player Tokido really is. This is a guy who is among those that can hold his ground against Daigo which is no easy feat at all. When we had Daigo compete against our best for our EVO qualifiers many remarked that (after seeing Daigo in action) their respect for Justin Wong increased ten-fold. Wong may not have taken Daigo down in a tournament yet, but goddammit the guy does incredibly well when he gives it a shot and holds him at bay and takes matches from him. Its no easy feat and I’m of the view that any player who can truly stand up against him is really, really good.
Tokido’s Akuma is first class and do to as well as he did in this marathon session is impressive. Daigo is on another level even to a sizable amount of Japanese players which I feel makes it perhaps a bit difficult to judge the Ryu:Akuma match-up weighting upon.
But, I feel Ryu has a the slight advantage over Akuma. If we could sweep after tatsu VS Ryu things would get very interesting indeed.
Tokido getting blitzed by everyone in godsgarden 2. Lost to 2 vipers(uryo and tompy), 2 cammys(sako + Kindevu) beat a vega(arai) and beat a fei long(mago). I think he’s eliminated from qualifying but I’m not sure.
There were points when instead of easily comboing into light tatsu and sweeping for the vortex, he would combo into hard tatsu, and I’m like…why? I couldn’t think of one good reason. It was almost as if he was either frustrated or didn’t want to win, lol.
Hopefully qualifiers continue tomororw and he still has a chance. He’s yet to play against Daigo or Momochi.
and Momochi is simply better than Tokido at SF4 series IMO. I love Tokido but I feel Momochi has the more precise and well played Akuma and it really sucks that he’s playing ken and ibuki. Funny thing is that Momochi got owned tonight even worse than Tokido did. Hopefully his ken getting rocked so bad will be a wake up call to switch back.
Momochi is better than Tokido with Akuma for one simple reason - He plays much more lame. Momochi will wait the entire round for you to commit to something he can exploit. He only gets aggressive when the aggression is in his favor and rarely if ever takes any chances. Tokido on the other hand is more aggressive overall which means taking chances at points when you may not have to. In other fighters Tokido’s play would be more rewarding. In the SF4 series it’s the opposite.
