unfortunately 3s is not balanced at all and unfortunately 2 of the best characters are also the scrubbiest characters in the game.
its funny how most people try to preach how good and balanced 3s is when practically everyone whores ken and chun li, especially ken.
i cant wait until the 3s fad dies down. mvc2 needs to take back the crown again. at least mvc2 have slightly more variety.
another thing people dont seem to realise is some people are used to fighting certain people, why no one gets used to ken is beyond me… actually this is 3s flaw, things being punished doesnt make u wanna find a way around it enough its wayyyy too free, if the mechanics werent addictive it would be like sc2
i realise more and more why some people hate parrying, maybe earning parries during a match should be considered?
Because you can’t compete with good competition with lower tiers, unless your level of skill is significantly higher than the rest, which is rarely the case.
It’s always worth a try, ya got nothing to lose. A character is only as good as the player.
Very good analysis Canadien, and I didnt put my friends name Ultimate Faust out there for nothing…he wins 3s tournies…WITH Q…
I agree.
If you want a very even playfield, try VF5.X. I’ve can’t ever say I’ve seen a crowd cheering over a VF match (at least as not as much as an evo 3s match). tiers allow for what is great in fighting games, impossible wins and tough as nails matches.
I mean, just go play double dragon 3 in 2p if you want even tiers. It’s about as boring.
No, it’s not. An average player playing Sentinel would take care of a better player playing Sabretooth or something.
An average Ken would still take out a better player playing twelve.
An average K-Sagat would still take out a better player playing S-Kyosuke.
And if someones going to try and argue back, please give more concrete proof than some random Japanese tourney where some Q beat out some Ken in one random match which happened 5 years back. Consistency > Exceptions.
Yes and thats the thing Hokage…thats why you are seeing 67646466326638927969469864983694639856398658936509 Kens out there…bc they want to level the next playing field…and they figure “If Daigo can do it with Ken I can too!!! All I gotta do is parry SA2…”
As Splinter of Ninja Turtles fame would say “I made a funny!!! A rhyme too!!!” LOL
Theres rare cases like with my friend Joey that Q and other tiers win some tournies…bc the top tiers run the game…
Half the problem in the us scene is the fact we base everything of what the Japanese do. 
I’m a total scrub, but the one thing I’ve seen again and again is tiers evolving over the years. I do think there’s still a lot of SF3 that hasn’t been discovered, just that the scene has set itself in its own concrete ways. I will agree that tiers exist, but they should exist to be proven different.
Not trying to start a flamewar, but it’s this kind of sulf-fulfilling idea that leads to the death of the scene, if it can get any more dead.
very true to a certain extent
Play as ryu more then ken…
Smartest thing said so far.
I guess the point of this thread was to really give this guy advice on playing Ken. My advice is not to completely abandon Ken, but learn the basics with him and then immediately move on. You should play everyone and get a feel for who you like best – just don’t end up playing Ken or Chun exclusively. We have enough of that bullshit already. :tup:
The whole thought of tiers is that if players of roughly the same skill pick characters, certian characters are better at the game, it’s not really all about how good the players are at all, the tiers just take the characters into consideration.
So yeah a godlike Twelve who parries everything, will eat a Ken, but how often do you see that?
I think the problem has been stated before, experimentation with games tends to take place early on, and now this far removed from the games debut, a lot of it has been figured out, and those things tend to give Ken an edge that players see because of wins, not because someone told that Ken was the best.
Though personally I think the game is much more fun if you just play with friends, and as long as none of you are disproportionately better than the others, then it tends to be a fun time. (I’m not great, but I tend to play Dudley and Remy, have a pal that only plays Ken, but that’s a long standing tradition, he’s always picked ken regardless of game.)
Da Desi Canadien I cant PM you bc it says “Your mailbox is full”
Yeah we do have enough Ken BS today as a whole…and I have some friends that have been with Ken since day one also…
i agree there are still uncharted waters
i used to play 3s ALOT with sean! i came up with a sean that does non stop mix ups that now almost everyones doing. i dont think anyones surpassed how i was with him in my prime which is probably because everyones being pressurized to play a certain way.
i wish that sf4 will bring a diffrence in play style from diffrent parts of the world
but it’ll never happen, so instead of you playing the game the game will always play you
And that makes me wonder just how much longer 3s will be in the tourney scene…will we still be playing 3s at EVO in a decade? Will we see a whole new “sea of Kens” flourish to the scene?? Or…will 3s be REPLACED by like DOA4…sad I know bc of the new direction fighting games are going now and days…
something to consider.
We say SF is dead and in a sense it is…but its still hanging onto something to have a following at EVO…
I dont know…I play makoto and I sometimes disgust my self at the lengths you have to sink to for a win. She just feels dirty.
a win is a win is a win. feel good for being able to.
whole point is to win, or so i’ve read on here 10,000, despite the ‘cheap’ discussions.
if you don’t like it, it’s because you’ve been conditioned to think differently.
like i said, a scene/SRK self-fulfilling prophecy.
shit, i love playing elena, and i lost 99% of the time, but a mad elena player might just win the next evo. you never know.
Im also trying to learn how to play with Q but i doubt i will ever get good with him.:looney:
i agree, now throw me a SRK point. :lovin: