He’s constantly refining it. Sure thing.
Awesome, just awesome. Looking forward to the rest. Just when you thought you read it all, there happens to be more… I love it!
Thanks Vasili.
Who is Minna san?
It was not referring to someone by name:
EDICT J2EK[minna][: ? P,adv,n ??? (1) all/everyone/everybody/(2) everything :]
You’re welcome ThunderKick.
Yeah as Roogle notes, it’s a courteous way of including all readers.
If you think about it, none of the Street Fighter characters have any defined fighting styles aside from the few obvious ones (i.e: Sumo wrestling for E. Honda, Muay Thai for Sagat and Adon). They all use some sort of mixed martial art style.
Ryu’s fighting style is stated to be based on Karate though, according to his SF III NG/2I profile.
Just curious, but is “fighting stylist” the way you translate “kakutouka” (???). I always translated kakutouka as “martial artist”.
Which is prone to override by the blurb from AASFZ3 which is prone to override by the blurb for SF4 in the Master Guide.
Correct. I don’t say martial artist (or martial arts) for that one because I feel that “martial” needs to have the “bu” in there, taking a hint from DB’s Tenkaichi Budokai’s. You’ll see me saying “martial” if the term’s like budo, budosha, or “martial arts” in katakana, but not “kakuto” or “kakutoka”; though it means essentially the same thing, it’s a different essence that they chose to use as a term that I prefer to point out.
True, ZERO 3 is technically a newer game than 2nd Impact, but Ryu’s fighting style being based on Karate is something that has been consistent since Street Fighter II (at least in the Animated Movie).
My point is that Street Fighter characters usually don’t have their fighting styles defined by a simple name (like “Gourinji-ryu Karate” for example, although that would be a cool name to canonize) as most fans believe they are.
I see what you mean, since a budouka isn’t strictly a hand-to-hand fighter like a kakutouka from my understanding. But instead of “fighting stylist”, why not simply “fighter”, which is the other translation used in Jeffrey’s Japanese-English Dictionary. Its just that “fighting stylist” sounds a bit odd to me.
How do you translate the Japanese use of the English term “martial arts”? Considering “martial arts” in Japanese isn’t strictly a general term, but a specific term for western (American and European) fighting styles used by characters such as Joe, Cody, and Guile.
alternative costume for console.
Cammy looks good
I don’t like fei long but i think it woud in the future.
I hate the ones on gouken its like the same with akuma alt it better that he goes original shoto gi
I don’t use “fighter” because that can be generalized into someone who simply struggles, whether it be with martial arts or anything else.
Going from English to Japanese? Possibilities could be budo jutsu or budo ougi I suppose.
I just remembered that in Nekketsu Seisyun Nikki 2, Ken sells a mail-order course of his fighting style, which he dubs “Ken Masters-ryu Karate” (???), which Hinata is a subscriber of. I know Rival Schools isn’t exactly the same canon as the Street Fighter series., but the fact that he dubs his own fighting style that name leaves credence to the idea that his fighting style is no one’s own but his own.
No, the other way around. Particularly when a character has “Martial Arts” (???) listed as his fighting style.
If a style is dubbed a name, it’s usually felt that it’s capable to be passed down to other practitioners. The name may or may not be official, but it nonetheless owes credence to the one who’s named after it and who’s passed it down to others. Now those others can further refine it to the point that it becomes their own style to pass down. Ryu and Ken have definitely reached that point by SF3 if not earlier.
Well, if “martial arts” is in katakana, then I leave it that way. If you meant which terms in Japanese I would convert to “martial arts” in English, then I already said terms that start with the kanji “bu” for “martial” or “military.” Other than that, I’m not sure what else to tell you.
Prologue for Sakura is up now:
http://www.capcom.co.jp/sf4/begining_sak.html
Prologue 5 (Sakura)
At the instant the referee’s count call was counted over at 10, the show grounds was wrapped in a great joyous voice.
"Huu."
Sakura looked down at the opponent knocked out on the mat, she wiped off perspiration.
The lightest youngest amongst the participating contestants, furthermore being a woman the matter of Sakura having won reached a peak at once with the spectators’ excitement. For the spectators standing up in unison shouted, there was an immense uproar on the grounds.
“Alright! With this it’s 3 consecutive victories!“
Dan having rushed over from the corner smack-smack strikes her back, Sakura lightly coughed violently.
”…Couugh. That hurts, Mr. Hibiki!”
“My bad may bad. However you really did it Sakura! As expected of my apprentice!”
“What…! apprenticeship nothing…, I say no more already. Besides the guarantee for this bout has been saved now hasn’t it!? To use for the tournament’s travel expenses!”
“Yeah! Already we’re good for anywhere!”
"Thank gooodness!"
While it was precipitating about the ring behind Dan, Sakura stroked down her chest on a grand scale.
“What’s that! what’s that!, with that gloomed face! You don’t mean you’ll freak out at the battles with formidable adversaries do you?? Well, you still looking like an amateur is a reason isn’t it. However it’s alright, have confidence! For my saikyo ryu…”
“That’s not it I say!“
Sakura undoubtedly glares and, Dan stepped back.
”…Wh, what is it.”
“From when we decided on doing the tournament, it’s already 2 months!! Initially, I and Mr. Hibiki and Jimmy would divide the labor for the fighting show, we’d talked about that to raise the money we’ve collected didn’t we? Despite that…”
“Uh, yeah, that is so isn’t it, Sakura. The matches I didn’t win enou…no, I was resigning from victories for more profound reasons. From here going to the world fighting tournament, even as a joke being the instructor of saikyo ryu if I, were to lose one carelessly, my students scattered in the world how agitating it is?! To consider that you know, now even if only slightly physical strength…”
“Yeah yeah, enough already!“
For shockingly Sakura bitterly smiled.
“Mr. Hibiki’s said matters as it is were bad for even me to believe, from here on I’ll listen to around half from that. Anyway! For this occassion is like such isn’t it.”
”…caught in a verbal argument somewhat haven’t, you. Whatever, at any rate, if we board tonight’s ship as planned…”
“That’s right isn’t it. Tonight’s…, you say today’s? Today’s evening?! Mr. Hibiki, this morning you said ‘departure is for tomorrow night’ didn’t you?!”
“Hmm? Oops, that’s right wasn’t it…“
Rummaging through his padded undershirt he searches, Dan takes out a become crumpled ticket.
”…As I thought, today isn’t it.”
"Eeeh, it’s now already evening!! What time is it?? Just a sec, show me the ticket please! Have to hurry!"
For Sakura, snatched the ticket from Dan’s hand, looked at the clock at the grounds.
“Uh, oh! Jimmy! Hey Jimmy, where are you? We gotta go!”
“Besides that, luggage! Mr. Hibiki, where did you set aside the luggage??!”
"Oh no! The guarantee for here hasn’t been collected has it!"
With the appearance of thoroughly not hearing Sakura’s questions and the like, for Dan the guarantee, while crying out for the guarantee a crowd of people was disappearing. Without time to be flabbergasted, hurrying to the grounds’ exit while beginning to run, Sakura mutters “Repeal of previous remarks!”
Absolutely enough!
Matters with Mr. Hibiki, are distrustful so absolutely enough!!
Good stuff. More to come later today.
That’s more or less my point though. Ryu and Ken’s fighting style may both be based on the Gouken’s teaching, but they personified their style so much to the point that they might as well be distinct style.
Of course, establishing Hinata as a subscriber to Ken Masters-ryu Karate was most likely done to explain why her Special Moves in the game (Rengekiken, and Shouyouken) are similar to Ken’s.
For those curious, IInchou, the Chairperson, was a subscriber to Saikyo-ryu before she switched to Masters’ style as well.
All About Capcom acknowledges that Martial Arts (in katakana) is indeed a general term, but clarifies that the use of the term in the Street Fighter series and Final Fight Revenge refers specifically to the contact-style martial arts developed by the U.S. Military. Didn’t Cody used to serve in the military (I know the character art for the original Final Fight had him wearing dog tags on his collar)? That definition (military martial arts) would make sense in the context of character from other games like the Ikari Team from KOF? But what characters like Terry Bogard and Sarah Bryant, who don’t have a military background?
On a related note, I heard that in the second volume of Ryu Final, Gouken explains to Ryu that their martial art school did not have any name in order to maintain the style in secrecy.
AAC says particularly or especially, rather than specifically, meaning it doesn’t have to refer ONLY to the US military regimen, but it does much of the time. That way it’s found even in the context of fighters like Karin, even though she hasn’t been in the military. I’m not aware of Cody ever having a military history.
Well, their martial art is rooted in an assassin’s caliber style after all.
As promised for more info later today, drum roll please**
part 1 of 37 (and no I have no idea how long it’ll take to finish, but here’s the start of the SFZ3 SQDE file)
Street Fighter Zero 3
Story
The man who aims for the true fighting style, Ryu. As for the become power inside “satsui no hadou” what does it bring about within his chest? Desiring the answer, desiring formidable opponents, Ryu journeys out. …Such that his figure, has shined in Vega’s eye desiring a strong fighting stylist’s “body.” As for Vega’s true intention? And also for the “psycho drive”…?
Ryu
Random win quotes
A- “The path to the true fighting stylist… show it to me opening up!”
B- “Let’s fight again. Mutually, we’ll become even stronger for sure.”
C- “If you quit at one go, attempt it any number of times. It’s alright if that’s repeatable!”
D- “More! Come so your all strikes hard!”
E- “Forge the body, refine the heart. Seems simple but must not be forgotten.”
F- “Giving up?..? Still, your eye’s with the essence of battle.”
G- “To accumulate it over 10 years, but to lose it in an instant.”
H- “For the journey still…has just begun.”
Personal win quotes
vs Ryu: “Come now, stand up! You’ll become an opponent any number of times!”
vs Ken: “Always you, let them exceed, my expectations…I’m glad!”
vs Chun Li: “Impatience produces openings. The sharpness of those kicks, don’t lose sight of them!”
vs Sagat: “Come now, what’s wrong!! I’m still lively here!!”
vs Adon: “If you want to be strong, first of all, there’s the matter of recognizing an opponent’s strength!”
vs Birdie: “If you’re a wrestler, a dishonest manner of doing you also ought to surpass.”
vs Guy: “Look properly at your movements. Undoubtedly I should be taking advantage of your guard down.”
vs Sodom: “Cast aside even weapons also protectors. It is how one is unarmed combating-like.”
vs Nash: “Mutually the goal differs, the filling passion doesn’t change.”
vs Rose: “What do you want to say? What is, in my future!?”
vs Vega: “From hatred… nothing is born!”
vs Gouki: “Your so-called ‘satsui no hadou’… Someday, I’ll display controlling it!”
vs Dan: “You’re not weak, it’s just not quite enough is all.”
vs Dhalsim: “First of all…there’s the thing of becoming insentient!”
vs Zangief: “Fuss over a win and, you lose sight of the important thing!”
vs Gen: “The fist that lives by the moment…strong!”
vs Rolento: “More yourself, and also people, how about you try believing?”
vs Sakura: “Next time we meet I, will be much stronger…ready yourself!”
vs Blanka: “If only you have a hot fist, to us there’s no need for the likes of words.”
vs E. Honda: “…not yet the world’s vastness, was such a thing I had known hadn’t I.”
vs Balrog: “For conceit and self-confidence, are indeed completely different things!”
vs Cammy: “Anxiety binds you, I’m afraid, you personally, have no choice to hit!”
vs Cody: “Defeat isn’t frightening! It’s the subject of giving up that’s dreadful!”
vs R. Mika: “I don’t understand why it happens, so won’t it be interesting?”
vs Karin: “To be optimistic is fine. Push on without hesitation!”
vs M. Bison: “An opponent’s movement, observe it much better.”
vs Juli: “Exact aim, non wasted motion… Seems as though you’re machinelike doesn’t it.”
vs Juni: “I don’t sense a chagrin for you, you won’t become strong.”
vs Fei Long: “Turn on the passion for your fist, certainly you’ve accepted it!”
vs Dee Jay: “That’s right…me too! To fight is extremely fun.”
vs T. Hawk: “My fist comes together with you, I feel glad!”
vs Guile: “Not even obtaining technique from nothing but a defeat, come now, come face me once more!”
vs SnH Ryu: “Am I… seeing a nightmare?..?”
vs Eagle: “You’re definitely a tenacious one to oppose victory. That was just a little more for a spot to bring me down.”
vs Maki: “Don’t rely on weapons, you’re plenty strong even unarmed.”
vs Yun: “That was good vigor. If you increase your offense you’ll become much better.”
vs Ingrid: “Spirit of a glossy side is an unseen thing isn’t it. It’s become study again!”
Opening:
The man who aims for the true fighting style…Ryu. As for the become power inside “satsui no hadou” what does it bring about within his chest? Desiring the answer, desiring formidable opponents, Ryu’s journey continues…
Before 5th battle vs Rose:
Rose: “Ryu…up until now, you will not prevail against that man. No…even if you would win the battle your soul will be seized.”
Ryu: “!? What’s, with you? That man you say, who in the world…?”
Rose: “Now then, fight with me…and also, show me that you’ll defeat me!”
After battle:
Rose: “It’s not the ‘power’ concentrating in your fist, your ‘soul’… As for the so-called aim for the true fighting style, it’s to say the matter to seek out that meaning. Searching for the answer is not something to discover. It’s a creation of your… “soul”. Even as you’re facing that man…that matter, do not forget it!”
Before 9th battle vs Ken:
Ken: “Ryu…fight me…The strongest is me…not the likes of you…!”
Ryu: “…Ken? What’s wrong? Those eyes…what’s happened!?”
Ken: “Shut uup!! Don’t believe I’m the usual me, let’s go!”
Before 10th battle vs Final Vega:
Ryu: “Ken!! !? You are!?”
Vega: “Fuhahahahahaha!! As expected of Ryu! The man called Ken…he dreaded that you would leave him greatly behind it seems. With Lord Vega granting just a little bit of power his impatience couldn’t be controlled!”
Ryu: “…What did you say!?”
Vega: “Now then, this time it’s your turn. Through my psycho power’s baptism, I shall draw out of you, the blackened original nature!”
Ending:
Ryu: “Rose had said ‘that man’…is he the one?? Wh, what the!?”
Vega: “Fuuhaahaahaaaah!! Ryuuuuuuuuu!!! You are my next flesh…the body that must become the next ‘Vegaa’! Even if this body is destrooooyed!! For my sooooooooul!! Dooooesn’t diiiie!!”
Ryu: “Gu…guaaaaaaah!!!”
Chun Li: “This ICPO Special Investigations Division, Chun Li! Presently Vega is found and appears at the point of an abnormal energy’s confirmed enlargement! What’s happening!?”
Nash: “I don’t understand it either! But don’t get your eye off from the radar! Finally he’s been tracked down…will we endure letting him escape?!”
Ryu: “Guoooooooooohhh…!!!” (…this is…my original nature? Power welling up…power become to destroy anything…Gouki’s calling it…satsui no hadou…for the answer…with Vega…the same…!?)
Sagat: [For I will always accept your challenge!]
Rose: [Even at the time you fight that man…don’t forget!]
Chun Li: [To become even stronger for the time of our next encounter…right?]
Sakura: [Again…you’ll fight me won’t you?]
Gouki: [Your power…show it to me awaken!]
Ken: [Ryu! One more round…fight!!]
Ryu: “…!! Uooooooohh!!”
Vega: “Why…? An evil thing is this so-called blackened power…while it’s carried in that body…it to say omits my orders?..impossible…impossible…iiimpooossiiibllllllle!!”
Nash: “…What? Disappeared you say? Still he’s…Shadoloo’s base seems fine…?”
Chun Li: “Somehow or other it looks like Vega is not within the base doesn’t it. Anyhow, now’s a chance!! Nash, relying on you!”
Nash: “Understood! After two hours, I’ll head back that way! …Now then! Going for the grand clean-up eh!”
2 days later
Ken: “Going already huh, Ryu. Lately I’ve been creating nothing but debt haven’t I…”
Ryu: “Yeah…don’t worry about it. For me now…is something that’s amazingly exciting. Though you believe that you’ve had full knowledge of something, there’s plenty of things that you still don’t know. If you move forward to move as far forward as possible…it’s terrible fighting fellows. And also…interesting!”
Ken: “Hahaa! As usual with the habitual lines aren’t you. Don’t forget!! Next is my, turn to make a lend!”
Thanks Roogle, for explaining and thanks Vasili for all that new info–plus 10 more thanks just in case :looney:
SagatRyu
I know this is random and might have been asked before (by me I think–way back), but I’d appreciate if you can please give me some numbers on what you think the speed of Gouki’s barrage of fireballs he throws at Ryu in the SFIV anime trailer.
[media=youtube]QncT23T4_nU[/media]
At 3:04
I’m just dying to know that feat, and it is amazing how Ryu can move away from the whole attack unharmed.
WARNING! MAJOR SPOILERS!!!
Ryu SFIV Story Mode:
To Vasili10:
No worry man! I do what I can to help ya and the SF Community! And sorry to slow things down. 
BTW, could you please check if what they say in japanese and the subtitles are accurate?
You’re most kindly welcome.:wgrin:
What Ryu and Seth say: a little off but decent; close enough.
Sagat and Gouki on the other hand: no way. :tdown:
This calls for a frame by frame replay, constainly of Widows meida player.
Akuma shoots a red fire ball at 00:44 and the red fire ball hits the ground at 00:45. shortly after that another red fire ball hits the ground at 00:46 . Akuma shots a third red fire ball at 00:48 and then a fourth one at 00:49. After Akuma shots a fifth red fireball.
the third fire ball hits the ground at 00:51 and the Fourth fireball hits the ground at the same time. the fifth fire ball hits the ground at 00:52. Ryu runs at Akuma at 02:48 and clashes fists with him at 02:53. Akuma uppercuts Ryu at 02:56, Akuma then attmepts to Kick ryu at 02:57 but Ryu Dodges it. Akuma catches Ryu with a fist to the gut at 02:57 and Akuma throws another punch at 02:58 which Ryu blocks.
Ryu counters with his own punch at 02:58 but akuma blocks it. Akuma then counters with another punch of his own at 02:59. Ryu then counters with another punch at 02:59. Akuma then counters Ryu’s punch with a punch of his own and Ryu jumps out of the way. Ryu throws a kick at 03:01 which akuma blocks. Ryu grabs Akuma at 03:02 and throws him at 03:03. Akuma dives back and hits ryu at 03:09.
Akuma fires one air fire ball at 03:11 and then two more at the same time. he then shoots a 3rd and a fourth air fireball at 03:11 and fifth fire ball at the same time. after that he shots a six and seventh fire ball at 03:11 and a eight fire ball at the same time. Akuma then shoots a tenth, eleventh , twelth and thirteenth fire ball at O3:11. Before Akuma throws his fourteen fire ball at 03:11 there is already expolson.
Akuma then throws a fifteen fire, a sixteen fire ball and a seventeen fireball behind his fourteen fire ball at 03:11 the expolson occurs at 03:12 and Ryu jumps out of the expolson at 03:12. Ryu hits Akuma at O3:15 and Akuma lands on the ground at 03:15. Ryu runs at Akuma at 03:17 and hits him with a shoryuken at 03:19.
edit: Akuma tosses out seventeen air fireballs in one second.
there’s kanji on Ken’s belt.
@Lord Vega
That was awesome thank you. Seth’s dubbing rocks and the anime isn’t as bad as I thought, Ryu’s ending is actually good.