as for Speed, The Sonic boom is mention to go faster then the speed of sound which is 761 miles per hour.
Lāart dāAndore
Another piece of the big FF art puzzle.
http://fightingstreet.com/pics/temp/various/Andores.jpg
The names are Andore, Andore G and Andore Jr. Isnāt Andore Jr. the pink one or the red one usually? Is Andore G. the grandfather? He looks just as young as the rest.
http://hw001.gate01.com/otimusya/image/saikyou.gif
Has anyone saved the SFA3 ad for the GBA? I was too late.
Use this URL to save YouTube videos while watching them.
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What Iāve come across so far for speeds is that shock waves from Guileās and Nashās moves travel faster than sound, and Dee Jayās air slasher travels as fast as sound with it being a sound wave.
Iād assume that the rest of emitted projectiles would be subject to the userās own thrust, air resistance, and gravity for their speeds.
Andoreās pink and Andore Jr.'s red for the FF1 color schemes. The scan shows them from FF2 however.
In FF1, at least in the guide book, Andore Jr. is red and Andore is pink.
http://fightingstreet.com/folders/artworkfolder/artworkpages/ff_art_pages/ff1_art_pages/ff1_fullbodyart.html
In the FFCD manual, only Andore Jr. is shown, in red. On the recently shown Early Days page, the same picture is named Andore (not Jr.).
http://fightingstreet.com/pics/temp/various/ff1art3.jpg
The page where I found the sprites, linked to in my last post, also named the pink one Andore and the red one Andore Jr.
My bad then. Thanks.
Aerialgroove
Thanks for the Vega scan and those artwork pieces (including the FF ones). They are great!
About that artwork for unnoficial products, Iāve seen that Cammy one somewhere else, but, I never saw T.Hawk, Fei Long or Dee Jayās.
They are very close to the anime ones (not identical though). and⦠that art with Shadolooās moutain (base) on the background⦠isnāt that
the cover of SSF2 for SNES?
that anime picture, the one with the characters using the champion edition version of their clothes, Iāve seen another picture of that same style before.
If memry serves me right, only the character faces are shown (they are all together).
Sano
No hurries with the scans man!
Vasili10
you mentioned that on those capcom mags there are tons or Rockman info.
Does it mentions what happens with Rock, Roll, Blues/Protoman, Bass/Forte and Dr. Wily?
I mean, I know that Dr. Right build X, and that Dr. Wily built Zero. But what happened with them?
thanks
Unfortunately nope.
Should Andore be pink and Andore Jr. red, it would be more difficult to make Hugo Andore Jr.
Hereās a better scan from the SFIIING Secret File with all characters from SFI, SSFIIX/animated movie, SFIIING and SFZ2Gold as well as FFI.
http://fightingstreet.com/pics/temp/various/allstreetfighters.jpg
Size: 6,9MB
At Mad Manās Cafe I asked about SF commercials and Grave said the music for the Balrog commercialā¦
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ā¦was by a Capcom team doing most of the game music called Alpha Lyra (bottom left in the video), he posted the link to a Wikipedia article, you will be redirected toā¦
So that might be where they get their names from.
Right, forgot about that mess. Hugo, the black sheep Andore presumed to be formerly Andore Jr.
LOL if anything Iāll be on vacation 2 weeks from now, so you should get it thenā¦
Hey Aerialgroove, found this pirated Street Fighter II cart. Looks like Tetsuo Haraās style.
Yeah I know that one, to be more precise, itās a mix of two paintings, one by Tetsuo Hara (Muscle Bomber) and one by Akiman I guess (SFII).
Signās up. 19 days and counting, hopefully.
Not a very good joke. The fake Sakura was better.
Er, what? Did I miss something, or is this referring to something long discussed? Cause as far as I know, I thought we had long established that Hugo = Andore.
Really? I thought we had established that Capcom doges the question and it will always stay up in the air. So you say heās Andore, not Andore Jr?
I think the facts speaking for him being Andore (or Jr) were that in the 15th A. book it mentioned him being in FF (but that might be a mistake as itās not stated anywhere else), that he chills with the same Poison that is in Mad Gear with Andore and can be seen standing next to him and that he appears in Codyās (FF character) SFZ3 stage. Besides that fact that they look, sound and move the same of course.
Reasons for him not being Andore were that Andore is not a German or from Germany and that the name doesnāt sound German either (well Hugo is more of a French than a German name but the SFIII nationalities are a whole different story). That he would be rather old in SFIII (not sure about that one) and that their bios donāt have much in commone (no Mad Gear, just wrestling).
From the plot guide:
It states Hugo's history that he left home at the young age (20 years),
a home consisting of him and his mother, Father and his Two Sisters.
He was Firstborn, First Son too. The statement of being āFirst sonā would
indicate that there was at least a second son, which would be Andore Jr.
And he left home and went straight to Pro-Wrestling. And lost his partner
through some scheme of his rivalās.
Hugo's default colors are Andore's (not Jr's) and he is stated to be
first-born, therefore if heās Andore, then heās Andore and not Andore
Jr.
Andore Jr's bio from Capcom Classics Collection (which is apparently
his FF1 bio as well taken from Capcom of Japanās archives):
āAndore Jr. grew up acting as a sparring partner for his pro wrestler older
brother, giving him a good repertoire of wrestling moves. Heās still in
training in hopes of one day surpassing his brother.ā
This seems to match Andore (not Jr.) being Hugo. (not in the plot guide: Because Hugo āwent straight to pro-wrestlingā, and thus would be Andore according to this)
I've seen it mentioned that a sourcebook says Hugo (not Andore) took
his father, brother, and grandfather with him to America. Of course, if
Hugo is Andore, that would be Father Andore, Andore, and Grandfather
Andore.
From Golden Dragon: Hugo lost his tag partner because of some false
rumors spread by a rival wrestler. The tag-team tournament is in 3 months,
so he enters the SF3 tournament in search of a new partner. All that stuff
Tiamat said about running away from/leaving home is true. I have just a few
things to add. According to the Red Cyclone, Hugo IS Andore, not Andore Jr.
He grew up on a farm in Germany, which consisted of him, his mother, father,
younger brother (Andore Jr.), and his 2 sisters. He left home to vist
America at 20 years old and eventually wound up in Metro City where he
joined the Mad Gear Gang. He hasnāt returned home once since he left. Heās
the Andore in the pink outfit in FF1.
In FF1, Hugo wears the same outfit as he does in the SF3 series. Uncle
Andore wears a black outfit with white dots on his tank top has a moustache,
Andore Jr. wears a red outfit w/ black dots on his tank top, and Grandfather
Andore wears a blue outfit w/ black dots on his tanktop. He also wears
eyeglasses.
One of Andore's quotes when you fight him is "You punch like my
sister!" āAndoreā far as I know was never stated to have a sister,
but āHugoā sure was (Hugo has two, actually, but still fits). (Tiamat note: Hmm⦠this is from Final Fight Streetwise. Maybe need to edit this paragraph in the guide to say that)
All indications from the guide are that Hugo is Andore, as far as I can tell. Of course, itās not like I can read Japanese, but thatās what I recorded from what other people said. shrug
Did you mean
that would be Father Andore, Andore Jr., and Grandfather Andore?
What source book could that be?
Thanks!
I think we can defenitely say that there is nothing that proves Andore canāt be Hugo. So itās at least possible. Here are a few thoughts:
- The Andoresā FF1 art looks just as described above:
http://fightingstreet.com/folders/artworkfolder/artworkpages/ff_art_pages/ff1_art_pages/ff1_fullbodyart.html
Ingame however they donāt have mustache and glasses, just different colored clothing.
In their FF2 art they all seem to have the same age as Andore and no mustache/glasses.
http://fightingstreet.com/pics/temp/various/Andores.jpg
Kind of strange for a āgrandfatherā. Especially since he looked different in FF1. Must be a mistake.
First I thought maybe they are not actually grandfather and unlce but just act as if. Like Sonom acts Japanese and Poison acts like a man. Or as a wrestling team gimmick or something. With Hugo being Andre it would mean they actually are one family.
- The name Hugo and Andre (The Giant) are more Frenche than German. I believe that Capcom planned to make Hugo French but then for some reason made him German and Remy French, both nationalities completely random and for Remy also not fitting his stage.
That made me think that maybe āHugoā (without family name) is his stage name, not real name. As presented in Codyās stage. Wrestlers usually donāt use their real names. His name might also just be Hugo Andore but that doesnāt sound German at all.
I also think Capcom designed Andore to have āAndoreā as his first name like Andre. Then when they added clones (Jr., GF, Uncle) it became his family name which could be an excuse for not fitting to his bio.
Talking bout Mad Gear members:
Crayfish sent me this one. Itās Romeo from John Carpenterās Escape From New York:
Looks a lot like Mad Gearās J (Metro City):
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Argh, yea, itād be Andore Jr. Oops. Another (one of many) thing that needs to be corrected, I guess ^^;
As for the source book⦠hmm, dunno, I forget. Been too long and I only said āa sourcebookā because by then there was so much data backlog that sometimes Iād lose track of specific source names. But either Golden Dragon or Red Cyclone might know, I guess, judging from what I recorded there.