Scanning a bunch of Fist of the North Star similar to Street Fighter stuff. First off, I just want to say I’ve never heard of Capcom saying they’ve borrowed anything from Hokuto No Ken AKA Fist of the North Star though I always thought it was kind of a given that pretty much everything martial arts based from anime to mangas to video games was influenced by either Fist of the North Star, Dragon Ball or both, or influenced by things that were influenced by these two shows. Both shows and mangas were extremly popular in Japan too.
Here’s Vega(cape) on the horse just like Raoh. I have only seen Vega on the horse in this SF2V manga (the same one I posted before where Ryu turns to his darkside and defeats a demon with wings) so I can’t say just because of this if it’s true that Vega in the games rides a horse or not. Balrog(ninja), who got his ass kicked by Ryu, is spying on Ryu who just defeated Zangief when Vega stops by on his horse. This takes place some place cold like the South Pole because everything is covered in snow and polar bears where shown earlier.
Nothing to do with Fist, but here’s how Ryu and Ken’s master looked like in this manga.
And here’s a Noembulu like girl who pals around with Thunderhawk. This manga happened after Itoh Mami’s SF2 manga but before SFZ3. Not saying this manga influenced anything since I dunno, might be a coincidence.
I’ll be scanning a bunch of Fist of the North Star stuff, putting them up in bits and pieces.
Projectile/fireball and charging projectile attacks in Fist of the North Star before Dragon Ball was even created. But it looked different than the way it looked in Dragon Ball like I said before, they didn’t form it into a ball of energy, it was more like energy flowing all around the place. So far every Fist of the North Star anime has down played this aspect of Fist. In the TV anime there were a few times where you could see this energy/Ki in certain attacks in the manga but it was removed, the TV show would usually show nothing, no Ki, like real life I guess… But there were times where they did show this, like Kenshiro’s fight with Raoh in the movie, and Kenshiro’s fight with Raoh’s blood brother Kaoh in the TV anime, but it wasn’t shown as much as it was in the manga.
Of course Kenshiro can do it! HADOUKEN!
Oh yeah, he can do his fireball in Sammy’s 2D Fighting game. Course a 2D fighting game is not gonna shy away from this attack like the animes have!
Here’s Kenshiro doing a Hurricane Kick. As a twist this move was shown a hell of a lot more in the TV anime than the actual manga. They used it whenever Kenshiro was surrounded by 100 guys, he’d spin around and kick everyone in the face causing their heads to explode. In the TV anime it looked exactly like Ryu and Ken’s Hurricane kick except that Kenshiro stayed in the same spot and didn’t move forward, like Ryu’s Super Hurricane kick. Anyway, here’s him doing it in the manga, TATSUMAKI SENPUKYAKU!
More Fist stuff. Here’s that God that looks like Gouki who appeared in the manga and the anime. The first time he appeared was when Kaoh tried to finish off an injured unconscious Kenshiro. It stood up to defend him, chasing Kaoh away. While JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure is the first manga usually to be credited with having someone stand over you like what happens in Shaman King and Yugi-Oh, this kind of happened with Fist of the North Star before all of that, of course to a smaller extent than the other manga mentioned.
The second time it appeared was when Kenshiro was fighting his blood brother Hyo. It cried because it’s wrong to fight your own brother.
This is Ryu on the horse, he is Raoh’s son and the next in line to inherit the Fist of the North Star style AKA Hokuto Shinken. The TV anime never animated this part since they did not animate the very last arc in the manga, but Ryu did appear in the New Fist of the North Star OVAs that came out a few years ago in a brief cameo. Ryu even has kind of a headband thing going for him like SF Ryu.
Also, Kenshiro’s master was named “Ryuken.” Here is all of the Hokuto Shinken practitioners. This was slightly retconned, later on it was revealed that Kenshiro, Raoh and Toki were part of the blood line of family members who practiced the style, but Jagi wasn’t. Kenshiro, Raoh, and Toki are not blood related but where raised as brothers. Ryuken did take on other practitioners who were outside of the family, Jagi was one of them, originally he had even more students but little by little it went down to these 4.
Kind of random: Fist of the Blue Sky, the prequel to Fist of the North Star revealed that Ryuken’s older brother was named Kenshiro and was the previous master of the style before Ryuken. Ryuken named Fist of the North Star’s Kenshiro after his older brother, because both had the same birth marks on their heads, that of the seven stars (who Kenshiro of North Star got scarred on his chest by Shin later on).
One of the websites Aerialgroove sent me claimed that Chun-Li’s Lightning Kick is based on one of Kenshiro’s attacks, mainly the time he used it against Heart. Heart was like the Blob from X-Men. He had so much fat on him he couldn’t be harmed, especially by Kenshiro’s style since it involves hit attacking your nerve endigns aka pressure points. This is a very famous fight, they even recreated it in the Fist of the North Star anime movie. It’s also most likely one of the reasons why Heart is in Sammy’s Fist of the North Star 2D fighter. Heart was also in the Hollywood Live Action Fist of the North Star movie, but Kenshiro didn’t defeat him this way… um… NEVER watch the Hollywood Fist of the North Star movie…
Kenshiro did this attack a bunch of times in the anime and manga, though not as famous as his “machine gun punch.” The manga never dubbed the attack the machine gun punch but that’s what it was called later on. Fist created it and a bunch of manga later on used this attack, Ranma 1/2 uses it as does Kujo Jotaro who even has it in the Capcom game, it’s the move where a bunch of fists fly around you and punch you. I’m not going to scan the machine gun punch because I’m assuming everyone has seen that attack somewhere in some manga, anime, or game, it’s in every single Fist anime too. But here’s an example of another Lightning Kick -
This is the last of the Fist sfuff and then I am so going to sleep. While Balrog(ninja) looks a lot like both Club and Shura of Fist of the North Star personality wise he is much more like Rei, a beautiful male type, often called bishonen. Much like Rei was very rude and vulgar towards Mamiya, Balrog’s the same way with Cammy, women they love. But Rei is a good guy and Balrog isn’t. Mamiya eventually returned Rei’s feelings too unlike Cammy. Rei slices people up with his fingertips, Balrog uses his claws. Also Rei’s rising crane attack is similar to Balrog’s diving claw. but Balrog dashes towards you while Rei rises up in the sky first Karate Kid style.
There was another beautiful male type in Fist named Yuda. He even wore make up! Yuda was jealous of Rei because Rei was beautiful without even trying to be while Yuda was more obsessed with his looks. Due to his jealousy, Yuda was the first of the Fist of the South Star to turn to evil, and him falling caused tragedy in all of the other South Star practitioners. Yuda is a play on the name Judas, as in the betrayor. Sometimes his name is written Juda or even Judas in English.
Kaneto Shiozawa provided Rei’s voice in the animes and he also provided Balrog’s voice in both Street Fighter II the Animated Movie and Street Fighter II V. Kaneto Shiozawa died in a freak accident in the year 2000 when he fell down some stairs. RIP. :sad:
I don’t have any images of Yuda but here’s Rei’s first appearance. This scene was also used in the Fist of the North Star Anime movie.
Hey Sano, great work with those scans…I just have a petition, I know about Shura from FOTNS an he surely looks like Vega (claw) but I have never seen that “Club” guy you said. can you provide a scan of him? thanks in advance no matter if you are able or not to do it.
I didn’t know the horned mask/helmet Sheep the Royal wears to the ring was another homage/tribute to Vader. I don’t remember Vader wearing any accessories to the ring. Was that a ‘Japan-only’ thing?
From what I heard thanks to Evil Neil, Cammy’s midboss in SFA2’ is Rose and her final boss is M. Bison. Both have dialogue (albeit only a couple lines. Like every other SFA2 boss fight really…). Her ending is a bunch of text as the screen scrolls from down to up a portrait of her in the Doll uniform (full body suit, I believe).
Haven’t been able to find a translation of the dialogue and text yet, sadly. I’m going to put in my 100% guess slip of paper into the guess hat and guess that it involves Bison deciding from there to begin kidnapping and recruiting the other 12 Dolls for SFA3.
I also heard that Guy’s “classic ISM” BGM in Arrange is Final Fight 3’s 1st stage music (NOT remixed). So um… I guess someone out there in Capcom of Japan sorta still remembers that FF3 existed.
On the HNK subject: What is Kenshiro’s Fatal Blow in the (fighting) game supposed to be? Cause it’s both his 100 Crack Fist AND his lightning leg. He’s never done both at once in the same attack, right? Is it still the 100 Crack Fist, even though half of it is kicking?
Spoonman - No problem, I’ll scan Club later on today.
vasili10 - As near as I can figure it’s a gym T.Hawk hangs out in. I’ll scan more of it next time when I do the Itoh Mami T.Hawk stuff.
Ultima - 100 Crack Fist, right, that’s the name of Kenshiro’s Machine gun punch. I don’t recall in the manga him doing both moves at the same time, one or the other is usually enough. In the TV anime, I can’t say. Like most animes they stretched out events compared to the manga, what they call filler episodes. They had him fight a whole lot more people and mobs compared to the manga. Though I don’t remember him combining both attacks in the TV anime either, unless it was during one of those Kenshiro fights the mob scenes, where he’d just bust out everything against everybody. 100 Crack Fist just by itself was usually his finishing move. So I guess in the game they can call it 100 Crack Fist or give it a new name like 100 Crack Fist Special or something like that.
TiamatRoar - Are you going to buy SFA3 Anthology next week? Since it’s on a PS2 I or anyone else with a VCR or a DVD that records shouldn’t have too many problems recording any dialogs, pausing it and writing everything down, unlike with the PSP.
To be honest, there isn’t much reason for a storyline scrub like myself to get it when I already have Dreamcast SFA3. I only play Street Fighter casually, so I really wouldn’t appreciate having an “arcade perfect” conversion or any of those extra ISMs compared to what the Dreamcast SFA3 version already gives me. Instead, I enjoy just goofing off in Dramatic Battle or getting points in World Tour or trying out new characters to see shiny new animations, playstyles, voices, endings, and new characters, none of which SFA Anthology for all its fun easter eggs would bring to a casual scrub who already owns the Dreamcast version like me.
If it had Maki, Eagle, Yun, and Ingrid, that might have been a different story (I don’t have a PSP so I couldn’t get MAX), but it’s obvious why they couldn’t do that when MAX came out such a short time ago (come to think of it, it’s too bad they didn’t just slap in CFJ Alex and Urien into MAX while they were at it). Regardless, none of the ‘new’ stuff in there that would draw a person like me to get it when I already have the Dreamcast version (Cammy’s new added storyline being the closest thing I’m interested in but even that is just one picture that isn’t worth buying a game which for all intents and purposes of a casual non-serious scrub like me I already have). Alternatively, 4-Way Dramatic Battle would have been nice. Just something, anything that someone who isn’t particularly interested in the differences between arcade-perfect and ISMs and what else like me would have really enjoyed.
Of course, the fanboy in me might also have been persuaded had Juli, Juni, or Cammy had a super in Marvel-ISM where they summoned the entire Doll squadron to deliver the beatdown of death on their opponent. Or Sakura had a super taunt where grumpy surly Kei spends 10+ seconds berating her opponent about how stupid and lame s/he is. But alas, no!
You’re not being clear. Are you gonna buy it or not? :badboy:
Sorry, couldn’t resist. I’ll let you know if there’s anything new storyline wise in the English version. Course lots of SRKers will prolly pick this up anyway.
What can I say? I’m a stingy bastard. I did ‘sacrifice’ 40 dollars for the greater good when I brought Final Fight Streetwise, though :lol:
Thanks, Sano Here’s to hoping Capcom of America will be willing to translate 6 lines of text for Cammy’s SFA2 storyline. …despite my unwillingness to pay another 30+ bucks for it (that would have been 5 dollars per line of text! /cheapskate)
So Vega (spaniard) seems to be somewhat of a combination between Shura and Club, I’m glad Capcom went for the final design and dismissed the whole “full armored knight” thing (the rough design can be seen in Capcom Classics Collection), altough neither of both looks are precisely original tough…:rolleyes: Vega still is probably my favorite SF character desgin-wise (not gameplay-wise).
sano
Here’s to hoping Capcom of America will be willing to translate 6 lines of text for Cammy’s SFA2 storyline. …despite my unwillingness to pay another 30+ bucks for it (that would have been 5 dollars per line of text! /cheapskate)