I still say Dean sucks. The electricity was a nice touch, but his moves were garbage ('cept for his backbreaker). I remember trying desparately to like him when I first played the game back in the day, but it was hopeless.
However, I still think Final Fight 3 was the best in the trilogy (I refuse to count ‘Streetwise’), hands down (Despite Dean).
As of right now, Final Fight 2 and 3 aren’t supposed to fit into the timeline/chronology when it comes to the Street Fighter series, IMO. I think Capcom purposely ignores them because they weren’t very successful (I still run into ppl occasionally that had no idea they existed). There’s no way Capcom could’ve just forgot about them. I think Maki was revived for the reasons sano suggested on page 238.
Yeah, I don’t mess with Emulators too much, well, if I don’t have too anyways. But I did play and beat Aliens vs. Predator the Capcom game that a friend had downloaded because I know that game has even less of a chance of being released on any console than anything else… it’s funny how when I went to an arcade in Japan back in 2002 that game still had a crowd of people surrounding the machine so much so that I couldn’t even play it.
But I suppose if the Nintendo Wii thing doesn’t work out maybe I’ll get around to messing with Emulators, though I play too many games at once as it is…
Dean is crappy to play as in my experience. I found Guy, Lucia, and Haggar to all be effective enough but Dean was just… blech. For me, it’s his poor range on his throws (good luck throwing enemies into other enemies with him) and his overly weak dash move that were the worse and his normal attack combo does low damage unless you remember to tack on that electric shock at the end (and even after that it’s still only decent damage), but in general he didn’t seem very good. Not that that applies to storyline in any way of course.
I saw some people post that Final Fight 2 and 3 are despised by Capcom because they were Nintendo’s idea/demand (which is why they’re SNES exclusive and not arcade releases). No one gave evidence or a source, but when I think about it, it makes sense. Okamoto (or one of the Capcom execs that left by now) was always against the idea of sequels if I recall correctly, and I have a hunch that Captain Commando was actually always meant to be the sequel to Final Fight (FF2 came after Commando). Regardless, it’s pretty obvious that Capcom dislikes them. As Sano pointed out earlier, the probable reason Maki was used was likely because she was made popular by Sakura Ganbaru and thus otherwise probably wouldn’t have been used. Of course, this is all conjecture but it sure seems to be the case! For crying out loud, Capcom doesn’t even make any extra ports of it like they do with Final Fight One
Slammasters was best for the Four Player mode (I actually have that game! Many fond memories). Which of course is why Capcom removed that and made it just another fighting game with Slammasters 2. :looney:
Both Okamoto and Funamizu are opposed to sequels. Funamizu has been much more vocal about it in interviews.
Okamoto went on record as that being the reason why he left Capcom. He felt the company was making too many sequels and not enough new games. Of course, that’s the only time he went on record about speaking about sequels unlike Funamizu, well, what’s available in English that I know of anyway.
Okamoto’s new company Game Republic made the game Genji available for the PS2 that came out last year. According to Akiman’s website Akiman is going to work on a game with Okamoto for Game Republic. It’s rough getting details about it, for me anyways, online translators are not the best…
Check under Profile to see Akiman’s entire resume, all the games and other things he’s worked on and for 2006 he mentions working with Game Republic on something(before there was a link to a page I couldn’t translate with Okamoto pictured, doesn’t seem like it’s in place now).
And the fan art section on his site has some of the best SF (and other stuff Akiman has worked on, and stuff he hasn’t touched like Transformers, lol!) fan art ever. Click on the Side 1 icon. I dig through it’s pages almost weekly and save lots of images.
Yeah what the fuck was that all about? I mean I kinda appreciate the fact that they explained it in the storyline, but it’s still some bullshit. As a wrestling game it was cool. As a fighting game, it’s just another one of the many mediocre SF clones that were being released at the time… in my opinion, anyway.
Oh yeeeaahhh, now I remember. You know what we should do? We should hound Udon to death to sneak the other FF characters into the SF comic. We do it long enough and Capcom might figure there ARE people that give a damn about them!
Doesn’t seem like that’s going to happen. I posted this before on this thread but I asked Ken Siu-Chong about it at the NY Comic con. He said he wants to do a Metro City story, but he doesn’t feel that the FF characters don’t fit into what he’s doing now, the SF2 tourney, it’s almost like they have their own story apart from SF. He said he’d like to do an FF one shot at some day.
At one point we did bug Udoneko/Erik Ko about FF characters, he said that they wanted to do an FF story too, but they had to get the rights for FF, meaning they only had rights for FF characters that appear in the SF games. I asked Ken Siu-Chong about the rights and he spoke like it wasn’t that big of a deal, for him it was more about storyline reasons on his end.
About Shadaloo being Nazi related, what did we have? So far I got:
-Vega’s skull symbol on the hat
-Cammy’s Shadaloo salute
-the article in the movie SFIIAM
Great pics! Yeah like Funamizu says in SF Eternal, FF was COJ’s idea of a sequel for SF when Capcom USA urged them to make a sequel for it. They continued to urge them for a sequel for SF even after FF and that’s how SF2 came about.
I can’t think of anymore Nazi related Shadowloo things… real ones anyways, there are lots of Nazi ‘conspiracy’ theories like them being associated with aliens, trying to make ‘stronger humans’, making spaceships, Hitler remained alive(like Bionic Commando/Top Secret), there sure are a lot of bizarre theories when it comes to Nazis…
I think the SFIIWW logo was this logo created for SF89 and then they just replaced the 89 with a “II” which was a good decision in my opinion. It’ sthe best SF logo so far.
Well, I mean they do have their own story apart from SF. I mean why would the other FF characters make an appearance in the SF comic anyway? What I’d like to know is why Capcom seems to implement storyline elements from only Final Fight 1 and not the other two.
Yeah I agree, other than Guy challenging Vega(cape) and/or Gouki and getting beat up (when there’s already a few characters in SF you can do that with, and this wouldn’t make Guy look ‘cool’ when to me he always should look pimp…) or maybe encountering Rose or something I really can’t see him in the SF comic right now, maybe a back up/side story but not the main story. Maki, Rolento, Sodom, Cody, much less…
I thought we had cleared that up. It’s because they’re not arcade games, they are just SNES games Capcom was pushed to make, that’s why their stories are lame and why they don’t want them in their officials storyline so they just ignore them.
No… That’s just a conclusion drawn by Tiamat based on what some dude on a message board said. Tiamat even said that the person who said it didn’t provide any evidence or source to support the claim. Until we hear it from Capcom themselves, it’s just an educated guess/heresay. I think there’s a very high chance it’s true, but we don’t know for a fact.
Does Guy wear a ring on his finger in the SF games? You can see it very clearly in Namco x Capcom. Always figured it was an engagement ring to Rena he was wearing when I saw it in NXC. It’s on his right ring finger, looks like a wedding band. Let me see if I can scan the image, I might have it…
Kind of wondering, does SF ever mention Rena at all? Even Maki’s storyline in SFA3 Max, I can’t recall anything about Rena there…
I can’t imagine the Final Fight license possibly being expensive at all. The storyline issues on the other hand are obvious (Guy being the only FF character even in the Alpha games who does any remote interaction with SF chars and even then it’s small. Hugo too does not interact significantly. …admittingly, not many SF3 characters do). And I doubt them making Cammy decide to join Guy’s dojo would fly
No Rena mentioning at all to my knowledge. Closest thing to an FF2 and FF3 acknowledgement was Street Fighter Devotion saying Rena was going to be in Streetwise (SFD is assumedly trustworthy. He’s Udon’s webmaster after all) and one of the FF Streetwise developers (Joe Willis, I think) saying that Final Fight 3’s Guy was his favorite FF character. Of course, Streetwise itself isn’t exactly the most concrete thing in the world…
Guy wearing a wedding ring would be pretty interesting, though. Of course, I haven’t heard of any official statements but it does seem like a decent conjecture at least since I don’t see why they’d tack a random ring onto Guy otherwise. I never knew he wore a ring. Wonder if he has it in FF3 as well.
