OK I’ll give it a whirl. I’ll send it on Saturday or so.
Cool, where did you see that interview?
Ok, you’re talking about the “15th Anniversary book” now, not the 15th Aniversary guide or Eternal Challenge, right? Ryu, Makoto and Sakura? I gotta check that, can’t remember.
EDIT:
That’s just some fan art, nothing official, not drawn as good as official art.
Is the “Complete File” the book that comes with the CD and has the Akiman pic of Ryu on it (where he’s screaming in his stage)?
Who knows where I can find larger versions of those awesome “autograph cards” depicted in one of the major art books, forgot which one.
The same book you’ve sent me story boxes to translate, I did Rolento’s for you, and then I said Eternal has pretty much the same info and more except for Gill. That book. I don’t really mind if the art is unofficial, it was worthy enough to make it into the book, so it’s something different to see. Pick whichever ones you like best, I don’t mind, just something unique to that book would be nice, and still the Ryu-Sakura-Makoto pic would be a treat as well. Thanks aerialgroove.
Yes, The Complete File does have the screaming Ryu pic by Akiman in it, full page size, and the book comes with a CD and silver cover.
Autograph cards? You lost me on that one. 
It was in an old issue of Animerica, an American Anime Magazine. I’ll look it up when I have free time and quote what he said exactly.
Hey, anyone remember this?
http://shoryuken.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1559059#post1559059
I actually got ahold of the writer Donutta over on gamespot.com, he’s apparently a moderator there. He recognized the guide I forwarded from the posting above, and said he’d provide me sourcebook information and possibly any later version of the guide if he could find as such. That was almost a week ago, and he hasn’t responded since. Anybody know/knew him? In terms of a certain young Gouki pic, he and TAS (who claims the pic is by Bengus) seem to be referring to the same source almost. Anyone know more? Just trying to piece things together, feel free to help out if possible.
In conjunction with this, (rats, attachments still not working) I was originally going to post this for the thread’s 300th page as another tribute to my immersement into SF’s storyline, but I changed my mind and I’ll try now. This post from a webpage long gone now from Google’s search engines sparked my interest and made me say “hey, I guess anime’s not the only Japanese media material that gets butchered when reaching the USA!” After that I soon discovered the plot guide, emailed Tiamat and well the rest of the story you know. Anyone know or has known this person? Help’s always appreciated and enjoy reading. Oh, and in case you haven’t realized it yet, it was #15 below that struck me more than anything else, duh. 
Street Fighter BattlegroundIf you’re a true street fighter fan, you’ll read
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Posted by CodeName: The Killer Bee on August 28, 19101 at 07:16:01:
What’s up, everybody? Now we all know Street Fighter’s got a pretty confusing,
mis-matched story/time line, but I’m here to explain why and to change all that,
so here goes:
Capcom USA has mistranslated and misinterpreted a lot of material concerning
SF’s story line, making the story almost completely different from the original
(Japanese) one. I, myself can’t speak or read Japanese, but I have friends who
are fluent and Japanese and have read Official Capcom fan books (such as “All
about Capcom Fighting Games 1987-2000”), concerning facts about street fighter,
among many other fighting games. They’ve also read magazines and such. One of my
friends is friends with a member of Capcom Japan.
I bet most of you (being SF fans) have videogames.com’s complete guide to street
fighter and I wanna let you know right now that nothing videogames.com said
’bout SF’s storyline is official. Almost everything they that was written about
the Street Fighter story is “crap,” basically, because one of their editors
"assumed" that “this and this happened” from watching the Street Fighter 2 Anime
and looking at all of the Capcom of America Street Fighter material they could
find, which isn’t a lot (obviously). I won’t insult the boys over at
videogames.com. They definitely their best to clear up the SF storyline’s
confusion, but their material and sources are very limited. Most of their
sources consist of Capcom USA material, which is a shame 'cuz they mistranslated
and misinterpreted a lot of material concerning the story line when Street
Fighter 2 was introduced to us:
- Final Fight 1 took place during the mid 1980’s
- The Slam Masters series takes place before Final
Fight. - The final downfall of Mad Gear took place 1 year
before Alpha3 (this most likely being FF2). - By the time the alpha series rolled around, Capcom
changed Genryusai from being Guy’s sensei to just
being Maki’s dad and master. She also uses the Bushin
Ninjutsu fighting style.
And no, Gunloc/Colt isn’t Guile’s brother or
relative. They’re not related in any way at all. That
was just Capcom USA making things up as usual. The
real story is that he was picked up by Haggar and
trained under him along-side Biff Slamkovich. Gunloc
has gotten in a fight with Cody because he was putting
the moves on Jessica and lost pretty badly. - The only person thats related to Guile is Ken.
They’re brothers in law. Jane (Guile’s wife) and Eliza
are sisters. The reason He and Ken never had an intro
was because it was said that Guile disliked his ego
and “play-boyish” attitude. - Here’s the chronology:
Slam masters/Muscle Bomber {Haggar was a wrestler}
Ring of Destruction {Haggar still a wrestler}
Street Fighter/Final Fight (Haggar is now the Mayor)
Final Fight 2/Street Fighter Alpha 1&2(Guy wasn’t in
FF2 because he was chasing down Bison)
Final Fight 3 (maybe)
Rival Schools (maybe)
Street Fighter Alpha 3
Street Fighter 2 series
Street Fighter 3 series
I think FF3 can fall almost anywhere. - Both Gill and Urien are kind of like Bison in a
sense that their soul won’t die. Urien is basically,
like everyone says, a demi-god. - When SF2 was released, Capcom said that Bison was
trained by someone along side 2 other people. So there
were two others that were on the same level as Bison
and one more that was even stronger than him.
Capcom never said who Bison’s master was or who these
two mystery people were. - Gouki DID defeat M.Bison. Capcom has at least
confirmed this but they didn’t say who was fighting
Bison at that time.
All Capcom has said is that Alex won the 3rd SF
tournament. - Sagat was never a Street Fighter champion. He
defeated the former Muay Thai Champ, Nua Kahn. - Gouken didn’t teach Retsu. Retsu and Gouken were
friends but they weren’t pupil and master. - Ryu didn’t beat Sagat fairly. Sagat actually had a
BIG upper hand. When Ryu was about to faint, Satsui no
Hado awakened. Sagat was actually giving his hand out
to help Ryu up because he was confident he already
won. Sagat was caught off guard with Satsui no Ryu’s
Metsu Shoryuken. - Neither Ryu nor Ken saw Gouken battle Gouki. The
only witness is Gouken’s daughter, who disappeared
after that. - Only Charlie was ordered to take down Bison. Guile
was ordered to bring him back in Zero 3. - Gouken had a daughter who’s in the Japanese SF
story line. Ryu and Ken referred to her only as
"Little Miss". There were 2 sketches of her in
various Jap. fan books. The 2 Versions of Gouken’s
daughter:
Imagine Yuri with hair like Mai’s and wears a yellow
gi. Give her an elbow pad. Curl the pants up to her
knees.
Imagine Vice with Black/Blue hair. Give her a white
gi. Curl her pants to her knees and give her the same
beads Gouki has. She never made it past the story
and sketches. - SFA3 takes place 3 years before SF2 series.
- Since SF2, Sagat has been waiting for Ryu to come
to him so they can have their final battle to the
death. - These are the names of the 12 girls Bison
kidnapped from around the world and trained to become
dolls:
Enero (Spain) - January
Fevrier (France) - February
Marz (Germany) - March
Aprile (Italy) - April
Satsuki (Japan) - May
Juni (Germany) - June
Juli (Germany) - July
Santum (-u) (Vietnam) - August
Xiayu (China) - September
Yanyu (China) - October
Noembelu/November (Latin) - November
Decapre/Dikappri (Russia) - December
Noembelu is supposed to be who T Hawk was looking for.
Aprile has a brother thats searching for her and has
talked to Rose about her whereabouts. All of them
(Including Cammy) are 16. - Dan was kicked out of Gouken’s dojo before the
first Street Fighter tourney began. - What became of the following characters after
SFA3?
Karin - trains so that one day she can defeat Sakura
R Mika - Became a pro wrestler
Sakura - went off to train around the world
Cody - he’s still running around doing useless things
Ryu defeated Sagat once.
Alpha takes place a year after Street Fighter.
Gouki’s island is named Gokuentou.
Ryu was supposed to have his red bandana in Zero3 but
Capcom got lazy. - Sagat let Dan win because he saw that Dan would be
corrupted by “evilness” (I suppose) if he didn’t.
Sagat hated Ryu because Ryu beat him with a cheap shot
and left a scar. - No, Yun and Yang have no relation to Gen. Lee is
Yun and Yangs father. - Sagat lost his right eye.
- Vega was born in a noble Spanish family. His
mother is also from a noble family but they went under
(everyone in this family was beautiful). The tattoo
on his body represents his mothers side of the
family. Anyways, an ugly nobleman picked her up.
Despite his ugliness, he was loaded so she married him
and had Vega. Since Bull Fighting’s a common
tradition in some Spanish families, Vega began to
develop a taste for it and became a skillful matador.
However, he decided to take a twist in his hobbies and
went to Japan in order to learn Ninjitsu, a style that
went perfectly with his agility and speed. He took
part in many street fights and soon became one of
Spain’s best cage fighters. Angry that his wife
lacked respect for him, Vega’s father killed Vega’s
mom in secret. This is what made Vega snap and turned
him into a psychotic killer. In the public, he was
just an honorable nobleman. At night he went around
killing ugly street beggars for fun. This is what made
M.Bison like him and recruits him into Shadowlaw. His
full name’s Vega Fabio de Cerna. - Gen and Chun Li’s father (Dorai) were actually
friends (this is why Chun Li has one of Gen’s moves).
She was told by Gen to find Bison. When she found him,
she got the shit beat out of her. M.Bison then flew
away telling her the next time they meet; he’ll end
her quick like her father. - Makoto’s dad’s name is Masaru.
- The Japanese (original) name of the fighting style
Ryu/Ken use is Ansatsuken. - Dan is the one that taught Blanka how to speak
English. In the process, Dan learned that Blanka’s
real name was Jimmy. Oh yeah, Blanka once saved Dan’s
life in the jungle. That’s how they know each other. - Ken’s parents and Gouken are long-time friends.
- The Psycho drive can channel any negative energy
or emotions. But Bison can get more from fighters.
Bison blows up because his current body couldn’t
handle any more Psycho Power. When the Psycho Drive
blows up, all the energy stored in there gets
released. The released energy goes to Bison’s body,
Bison’s body can’t take it and BOOM - The name’s of Ibuki’s fellow ninjas/teachers that
appear in her stage in 1 of the SF3’s are:
Sanjou- The tall guy in the long coat
Genda- The small, fat and bald Krillin rip-off.
Enjou- The Floating Ninja (NO, HE’S NOT GEKI!).
Raion- The big guy wearing beads around his neck.
Don- the raccoon. - Cammy’s fellow Delta-Red team Members:
(Major) Matthew McCoy- The big cyborg dude.
Colonel Keith Wolfman- Dude with the scarred face.
1st Lieutenant Rita Ruwanda- Girl with big-ass blade.
George Ginzu- the funny-looking kid. - A simplified ending of SFA3:
The things that did happen in Zero3.
Rose did fight Bison. Guy came and rescued her after.
Exhausted and badly wounded from the battle, Rose died
soon after. Ryu was taken over by Bison. Believe it
or not, Ken and Sakura brought him back to his normal
self. Bison ran away after facing Ryu, Ken and Sakura.
All 13 soldiers (Cammy, Juli, Juli, etc.) turned on
M.Bison. Cammy was nearly killed. Vega rescued her
(like in his SFA3 ending) and placed her in front of
Delta Red HQ. He didn’t turn against Bison and neither
did Balrog. M.Bison faced Guile and Charlie in his
base. The base started to explode and Charlie
continued fighting so Guile and Chun Li could escape.
He died, Bison survived. As a side note, T. Hawk
wasn’t supposed to take Juli, he was supposed to take
Noembelu. But Capcom was too lazy to make another
character so they just changed it to Juli.
SF2 story
M.Bison sets up a tournament because he wants to get
back at Ryu, Ken, Chun Li and Guile. Sagat enters to
get his re-match against Ryu. I think he used the
tournament also as an attempt to lure Gouki out of
hiding so that he might convince him to join
Shadowlaw. - Remy’s dad deserted him and his older sister. When
his sister died, he froze her in ice and kept her in
that cavern. Now he wants to kill everyone that
fights. There is no truth to Remy being related to
anyone in Street Fighter. - Because Street Fighter Alpha 1 & 2 basically run
off the same plot, they’re considered one game, story
wise. There is no difference, really. You probably
noticed how each character holds the same grudge in
alpha 2 as they did in alpha 1. - Because Cammy is said to be 19 during the SF2
Series and because her official birth-date is 1974,
SF2WW-SSF2T’s suppose to take place during '93. Since
most people say the SF3 series took place 4/5 years
later, SF3 takes place during 97/98. - Rose shares the same soul with Bison and was once
his pupil. - The Kanji letter “Ki” in Gouki`s name doesn’t
actually mean “ghost” or “demon”. it means “Oni”. Oni
in Japanese is the imaginary monster that looks like a
horned human. In Japan it is also believed that human
or humans spirit can turn to Oni when theyre
extremely obsessed with hatred, anger or vengeance. - Akuma doesn’t become Shin Akuma. Akuma IS Shin
Akuma, except that he holds back punches and uses only
a small percent of his power. He does this because he
doesn’t want to unnecessarily kill anyone who he feels
aren’t out to kill him in the first place. - Gouken had the character “Mu” which means
"nothing", “naught” on his back. - So far, the official way Charlie died is Guile’s
SFZ3 ending. But knowing Capcom, they might change
that again. - Akuma may be evil by our moral standards (he
killed his teacher and brother), but he is not evil by
his own ethical code. His code is the harsh code of
the absolute warrior. He had no qualms killing his
teacher and brother because he killed them in fair
one-on-one combat. It didn’t matter who they were; the
field of battle does not distinguish between friend or
foe. And he only fights and kills those who call
themselves warriors and trains in fighting; he doesn’t
go around killing defenseless normal people. - Ryu first became Evil Ryu when he beat Sagat.
That’s when it first awakened in him. He had no clue
what it was then. He then faced off against Gouki and
was told about “Satsui no Hado”. In SFZ3 he was still
swaying back and forth from being Ryu and evil Ryu.
The time when M.Bison had him, he was just a
brain-washed Ryu who was under Bison’s control.
Sakura was only about 25-27 during SF3. - Bison returned in the SF2 series because his
scientists made another host body for him. - Gouken pic:
http://www.geocities.com/hyperfighting/sfalphamovie/artwork1/sketch_gouken.jpg
Pics of Street Fighter 1 characters:
http://www.geocities.com/zeroalphaex/sf/artwork1_all.htm - Sagat was present during the Ryu, Ken and Sakura
vs. Bison fight, but didn’t help Ryu defeat M.Bison.
It was pretty much, Ryu (controlled by Bison) vs.
Sagat, Ken and Sakura vs. M.Bison. The SF2 series’
story line has been altered since the alpha series.
Sagat’s story line has changed also. He’s not
one of the 4 kings of Shadowlaw anymore. With the new
story line, it’s Ryu’s turn to go challenge Sagat this
time because Sagat beat him. Even though Ryu was
controlled by Bison, a loss is a loss. Neither Ryu or
Sagat actually has a clean win over each other. Ryu
won the 1st time by tapping into the powers of “Satsui
no Hado/Dark Hado”. Sagat won the 2nd time because Ryu
was brainwashed. That’s why Sagat isn’t in SF3, he’s
waiting in Thailand for the real re-match against Ryu. - Despite that Retsu was only Gouken’s long time
friend (and not student), It’s still true that he DID
know Ryu, Ken and possibly Gouken’s daughter. He’s a
fallen monk who practices forbidden techniques of
Shorinji kenpo. He entered the Street Fighter 1
tourney to fight strong opponents (how clich is
that?). - I’ve read 2 ways Bison met his end and they both
involve Gouki. I’ll tell you both.
a) Gouki interrupted the final battle of the 2nd World
Warriors tournament and killed Bison with the Raging
Demon. What hasn’t been said is who was fighting
M.Bison at that time. I’m guessing it was Ryu.
b) The final battle of the 2nd World Warriors
tournament was between Bison and Ryu. Even though
Bison was at the height of his power, Ryu was able to
bring him down with a powerful Dragon Punch. Bison
slipped into unconsciousness and found an unknown
fighter standing over him when he awoke. It was in
fact, Gouki, the fighter Bison had heard about during
the Alphas. Before he could ask Gouki to join him,
Gouki used his lethal Raging Demon technique on the
fallen dictator. Although Bison was believed to have
been killed, no body was ever found. - In the ending of Final Fight, Guy beats up Cody
using his combination attack and then leaps off screen
before Jessica and Cody are reunited. It’s not
apparent whether he was a member of Mad Gear as well
or if he just had a grudge against Cody, but in SFA2,
the mid-boss battle with Rolento hints that he was
a former Mad Gear member (he tells Guy, “I see you
remember your true leader.”) - The writing on Guy’s outfit says
Bushin-Warrior (War) God. Bushin is the Japanese God
of
War. Guy’s the 39th Bushinryu master. - Ryu and Ken trained in Gouken’s Dojo for around 10
years. - Ansatsuken is a Generic Term that translates to
"Murderous Fist" but it actually means any martial art
that is Very Hard. Hard means it goes for the offense,
for the kill. Unlike Aikido or Judo. This ansatsuken
Goutetsu developed was a Karate variation.
Gen’s variation is based on Chinese martial arts i.e.
the Souryuu and Kiryuu. Both are Martial arts
developed to kill, therefore they are both Ansatsuken.
Maybe one way to see this is from just one move from
each variation:
Gouki has the Shun Goku Satsu - A move meant to kill,
hitting the vital points to destroy your body.
Similarly, Gen has the Shi Ten Shou under the Souryuu
move. This move Hits various vital points on your body
to ultimately make your body slowly die. Both are
moves that were designed to kill, not injure. There
are probably other ansatsuken out there, just…not in
SF. - Zero 2
Ryu’s ending happened
Ken’s ending happened
Chun Li’s ending happened
Adon’s ending happened
Sagat’s ending happened (except the fighting Ryu part
didn’t)
Birdie’s ending happened (except Birdie didn’t defeat
Vega)
Guy’s ending happened (except he didn’t fight Vega)
Nash’s ending didn’t happen
Rose’s ending happened
Vega’s ending happened
Gouki’s ending happened
Dan’s ending happened
Zangief’s ending happened
Sakura’s ending happened - Final Fight 3’s plot
The Mad Gear Gang met defeat once more in FF2 (at the
hands of Haggar, Maki and Carlos). With the gang
quickly falling apart, they fought within themselves,
battling each other until one of them reined supreme.
A lot of the city’s other gangs joined the battle over
control of the streets as well. In the end, the Skull
Cross Gang was the victor and it was now up to Haggar
and Guy to stop them. This also introduces their new
allies Lucia and Dean. Dean was asked to join the
Skull Cross gang, but he refused so they slaughtered
his family and has him seeking revenge. Lucia’s a
detective from Metro City’s Special Crimes Unit who
aided Haggar in bringing down the gang as a way of
repaying him for clearing her of a corruption charge.
She’s also an old friend of Cody’s. - Yun and Yang Lee are twins, originally from Hong
Kong, who use Chinese Kempo (Kenpo?). Their parents
separated when they were very young, so they moved in
with their grandparents in Shanghai. Now, they’re
considered to be town leaders, always ready to protect
their part of Shanghai. - The Andore Family:
Andore Jr. (Hugo)
U. Andore
F. Andore
G. Andore - Go Hibiki has been portrayed in many different
ways by many diverse artists, for example:
In a non-official Gamest Magazine manga, Go wore a
sleeveless gi and gloves (like ARK’s). His hair was
slick back except for one strand that hung forward,
over his forehead.
In Pocket Fighter, he wears a sleeveless dark green
gi, a red tengu mask and matching gloves exactly like
the other shotoclones. His hair’s like Dan’s and his
skin is tanned. Like Dan, he wears a black T-shirt
under his gi, and bears a red symbol on his back,
meaning "father."
The truth: Go Hibiki looked like a Muay Thai fighter.
Unlike what most people think, he didn’t practice the
same art as Gouken, Gouki, Ryu, etc, etc. He was a
pure Muay Thai fighter. Hence he challenged Sagat
because Sagat was the current Muay Thai god at the
time. - Major Warren
Major Warren is one of 3 original characters appearing
in the 4th Street Fighter Drama CD, “Street Fighter II
Gaiden ~Cammy - Tatakai no Jokyoku.” A fellow member
of Britain’s Special Operations Division, he is
partnered with Cammy for most of the story. He’s 43
years old. - Lucias (Final Fight 3) last name’s Morgan.
- SF Characters with official last names
Ken Masters
Edmund Honda
Sakura Kasugano
Cammy White
Dan Hibiki
Mike Bison
Karin Kanzuki
Mika Nanakawa
Yun Lee
Yang Lee
Sean Matsuda
Rolento Schugerg/Schrugurg (possibly)
Hugo Andore - The Shadowlaw Dolls:
http://www.cammyfan.com/Cammy-info/fan-fics/cammyclones.gif
http://www.shadaloo.hpg.com.br/Juni%20&%20Juli%20intro%20Final.gif - The idea of Ryu falling in love with Chun Li is
impossible. Not because she is not good enough, but
because their paths do not cross. Ryu has really
devoted his entire life to the way, so he really
couldn’t care less about having this kind of
relationship with a woman. Again, if you saw the
movie, remember when Ken’s girlfriend comes to pick
him up at the end of the film? Ryu wasn’t even looking
at her! And she was very attractive. I don’t think it
was out of disrespect, but rather because Ryu has the
mentality of a child in that respect. Within a child,
sexual desires are non-existent. So he was probably
thinking of the fight again. - Gen isn’t related to Yun, Yang or Lee. Yun and
Yang’s last name is Lee and Lee is their father.
That’s why Yun has the lunging punch just like his
dad. The move that looks like Gen’s move is one of the
moves that Gen just passed on to the Lee brothers.
Gen seems to have a tendency to pass on certain
skills. (Chun Li learned the crouching kick and
Yun/Yang learned the rolling kick). - A sweet picture of Cammy and Maki posing back to
back:
http://www.cammyfan.com/Cammy/official-art/pics/cammaki.jpg - Ages of Cody, Haggar & Guy during Final Fight 1:
Cody
DOB: April 18
Age: 22
Guy
DOB: August 12
Age: 24
Mike Haggar
DOB: September 3
Age: 46
Final Fight 1 took place during the mid 1980’s
1984, 1985, 1986
Final Fight 1 (possibly late '86 or '87)
Guy’s 24 (year: 1987)
Cody’s 22 (year: 1987)
10 years later (1997)
Guy’s 34-35 give or take
Cody’s 32-33 give or take
4 years later (2001)
Guy’s 38-39 give or take
Cody’s 36-37 give or take - Younger Gouki’s physical appearance:
He wore a navy blue/black sleeveless karate gi and red
grappling/fighting gloves exactly like the other
shotoclones’. His eyes were red. His dark/black hair
went far down his back. He wore a thin rope around
his waist instead of a belt. His skin was lighter
than it is now.
Gouken’s physical appearance:
He had a scar on the left side of his head. He wore
red beads around his neck and a dark/brown sleeveless
gi top, with a thin rope tied around his waist like
Gouki. He wore red wristbands and both of his arms
were scarred all over. He wore gray pants and red
taping over his shins. He wore sandals. His beard
was long and dark/brown. - SFIII and 2nd Impact are the same thing. 3rd
Strike is actually something that happens after the
SFIII tournament.
So there you have it. Most of it may be stuff you already know or that you’re
familiar with, but there are some key facts in there that Capcom USA never
mentioned in any of their videogame instruction manuals.
Most of that stuff is taken straight from old Saiki Gamefaqs posts, since I saved a lot Saiki’s Gamefaqs posts I recognize most of it. Even down to the same sentence structure and the way it’s written. Other parts are taken from that same Gamefaqs storyline thread where Golden Dragon was posting, just from other posters. I hope he managed to credit the right people somewhere.
Ok sano, follow up: Can you confirm from any older posts that Saiki said her sketches were found in various Japanese fan books like CodeName: The Killer Bee has stated? Obviously this is a tad more specific than just “oooold official sources,” and until I found from Golden Dragon and the Red Cyclone webmaster that the cartoonish dolls were first published in a Cap! Fan Book, I suspected but never seriously considered those books were storyline sources because the plot guide didn’t hint at them, even though those are as direct from Capcom as you can get, no other sources come close, not even AAC.
On 7/12/2001 over at Gamefaqs Saiki posted(As I said in the past, I printed this thread wrong so some of it was cut off so anything that’s missing will be with an underline but you know the book anyway since it’s where you put up the Ojou-san scan.) “Version 1 was shown in a book Capcom released called … Street Fighter 2 fan book’ Version 2 I got from my friend working for Capcom.”
- And the two Ojou-san versions are the same that we know of as written in the Plot Guide.
Other citations are mostly to the AAC books, old sources and Saiki’s friend that works for Capcom.
EDIT: Oh yeah, since I keep forgetting to mention this just in case anyone doesn’t know, keep your eye on this site for a future Ryu Final scanlation.
EDIT 2: Hell, I even signed on to their forum so I can show my enthusiasm for the project.
http://www.mangaqwest.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12
Holy crap! The entire Mangaqwest site only has eight members including me! Oooh…
Thanks sano. :tup:
Unbelievable. Yet another varying set of words from Saiki. That Fanbook was released by Shogakukan, not directly Capcom, and Saiki even said shortly after I posted the pic that’s it’s an unofficial one. So back then one who had the Fanbook assumed Saiki had one official pic, Version 2, and unofficial Version 1. Then later I’m told that what she looked like was insider info that Saiki was able to get, and finally he said that he has both sketches. Dash no Chris thinks he has one or two books credited to her, hasn’t answered me since I introduced him to 80286.
Still no direct answer for what are the “ooooold sources” or the “various Jap. fan books.”
What a mess, folks… :bluu:
Screw it, the search continues if my pending shipment doesn’t reveal anything, I ain’t throwin’ the towel yet.
To be honest bro, they all suck, the Sakura-Makoto pic is the best and I think it sucks. Here you go:
http://fightingstreet.com/pics/temp/various/IbukiSakuraMakotoRyu.jpg
I meant these:
http://fightingstreet.com/pics/temp/various/autographs.jpg
They are from Capcom Design Works (page178). Especially this one I want:
http://fightingstreet.com/pics/temp/various/autographSFII.jpg
Where did you say you saw the pics of Ryu vs ? and Ryu & the mysterious Indian girl? Was it the complete file too?
He didn’t. It took me a while to sift and filter through all of that and get what was official (…or thought to be official at the time) and stated by Saiki and other people who (probably) knew what they were talking about, and what was fan conjecture. But that post was the one that kicked off the plot guide, really. The plot guide’s base structure and initial version was based off of info from that post :pleased:
Scarily enough, I initially found that post from a copy and paste into cammyfan.com’s forums back when cammyfan had forums.
Blah, I need to get back to updating the plot guide someday, but it’s still busy season and I’m exhausted. Ah well, I suppose it’d be better to wait until things are sorted out first. You rule, Vas ^^
‘Oooooold official sources’! …I really REALLY need to CLEAN that thing up, too. :wow:
Yes he did. I have lots of that stuff still saved and it’s a carbon copy of lots of stuff said on Gamefaqs previously. If it’s the first thing you saw and it kicked off the plot guide, hey, that’s great. Doesn’t mean it was the first of it’s kind out there. If you want to talk dates, That post Vasili10 made was on August 28, 2001. The Gamefaqs thread I’m talking about occured between 7/4/2001 and 8/21/2002. The Gamefaqs thread was one where Saiki answered questions from everybody. Killer Bee just took lots of stuff and posted it again. Heck, Golden Dragon was in on that conversation with Saiki. I’m not sure if you want me to go through the entire thing and repost everything how it appears but I’ll give you a snipet in just a second.
And at this point, all I really care about is if Killer Bee managed to credit the right people and didn’t come off as sounding like an expert.
Yeah I signed on too. I hope we get to see it soon.
Sorry, I thought that pic’s kinda cute for fan art. Thanks.
Okay, those cards. I remember seeing some of them up for auction many moons ago, unfortunately not the one you really want, though. Gomen.
Yes, those two pics are in The Complete File as well.
about the 1st picture , they are doing summer dance …wtf …
on the 3rd pic , is OBVIOUSLY new year celebration …
i can’t see clearly >.<
about ryu final …
i remember that i had seen that manga on sale at a bookshop close to my house .
however it was in chinese , too lazy to read it . i’m also scared that the manga will be bullshit and disturbing as the Hong Kong version .
Japanese fighters doing a traditional Japanese dance. Is that so off the wall?
Ryu Final’s Nakahira san’s work. No need to be scared of the HK mess. :tup:
Posted by killer Bee as per vasili10 reposting.
- Here’s the chronology:
Slam masters/Muscle Bomber {Haggar was a wrestler}
Ring of Destruction {Haggar still a wrestler}
Street Fighter/Final Fight (Haggar is now the Mayor)
Final Fight 2/Street Fighter Alpha 1&2(Guy wasn’t in
FF2 because he was chasing down Bison)
Final Fight 3 (maybe)
Rival Schools (maybe)
Street Fighter Alpha 3
Street Fighter 2 series
Street Fighter 3 series
I think FF3 can fall almost anywhere."
Posted by Saiki on Gamefaqs 7/10/2001
"Here’s the chronology
Slammates/Muscle Bomber {Haggar was a wrestler]
Ring of Destruction [Haggar still a wrestler]
Final Fight [Haggar is now the mayor]
Street Fighter/Fighting Street
Final Fight 2 /Street Fighter Alpha 2 (Guy wasn’t in FF2 because he was cahsing down Vega
Street Fighter Alpha 3
Super Street Fighter 2: Turbo
Street Fighter 3: Second Impact
Street Fighter 3: Third Strike"
The entire thing posted by Killer Bee is almost word for word stuff posted by Saiki a month earlier. And as you can see by his ‘additions’ it’s less accurate then what Saiki said. The rest of it is a compostite of a bunch of other Gamefaqs posts. Heck, even the bit about Ryu not noticing Ken’s wife in the SF2 Animated Movie is straight from the same conversation thread with Saiki, all though not said by Saiki, by someone else. And like I said, it’s great you guys found it since Gamefaqs deletes all threads that do not recieve a post in 30 days. However, my only gripe once again really is weither or not Killer Bee credited Saiki and eveyone else who contrubuted to the thread at Gamefaqs. I can really go on and on and be super anal about it and post everything he said back to back with what appeared on Gamefaqs or scan you 78 pages if you really want me to spend the time doing so but trust me, take my word for it.
To follow up, this is from the interview that appeared in the magazine “Animerica Anime & Manga Monthly Vol. 4, No. 5” back 1996 with Gisabaru Sugii who directed SF2 The Animated Movie and SF2V.
ANIMERICA: You were involved in both the STREET FIGHTER II MOVIE and the TV series. How did you become interested in them?
GISABARU SUGII: Actually, until I got involved in the movie, I wasn’t interested in the video game. But when it was decided the movie was going to be made, I got involved with Street Fighter II for the first time. There was talk of making the game into a movie at my studio, so I knew about the project. Then there’s this Street Fighter II poster that’t given me a lasting impression. The impressive thing about the poster, artistically speaking, was that they had all these military planes, but they just had fighters from all the various countries standing in front of them, not even facing each other. I thought that was interesting-I can’t really express it well in words. I often thought that image might be interesting to produce as an animated movie.
For example, in the movie Ryu never changes his clothes. During the staff discussion, the producer said, “He probably changes into T-shirt and jeans after he takes a shower after a sweaty work out.” But I refused that. That came from the impression I got from the poster. I wanted to make a heavy, realistic sort of movie, but this one thing had to be my breach of realism. I wanted the characters just standing there, unchangeable, including clothes, just like they seemed in the poster. But they still wanted some change of dress in the movie, so we decided Ken will get all the fancy changes of dress. [LAUGHS]
You say “Yes he did” and then you worry about if he creditted other people when you said “Yes he did”? What are you talking about? :xeye:
FYI, I said he did NOT credit the people, so it took me a long time FOUR YEARS AGO when the plot guide was first starting to figure out from that post what was said by Saiki and GD, and what was said by random other peeps. And then you said “Yes he did” and then go on about worrying about whether or not he creditted other people when you just said he DID credit other people, unless that “Yes he did” was referring to something else in which case, you completely misread my post in a manner that I’m unable to figure out 
CodeName: The Killer Bee does say he can’t read Japanese and he talks about the friends who can, so I’m pretty sure he’s not crediting himself for any of his post’s material.