this is a valid viewpoint, albeit a strange one for older players to hear
gone are the days where everyone wants to be the best. Fighting games used to only be accessible to those who put in time - not to impress others - but simply because they wanted to win
With the Internet generation, lots of players are able to experience all of the excitement of high level play without actually being a top player - thanks to YouTube, streams, blogs, etc
The biggest thing i think is commentary by people like seth, who can get you into the minds of these players without playing and learning the concepts yourself. explaining what is going on at high levels so that your average Joe who can’t even input srks on command knows what’s going on when 2 players are wiggling around pressing buttons from 2 feet away is a big step in making fighting games more mainstream
Think about it like this: before, none of your casual friends will play with you enough to get go the level where they understand these things naturally, because they’re tired of getting their asses handed to them over and over. With the advent of this new technology they skip that part entirely - letting them appreciate the real fun of fighting games without putting in the time that we did
This is good and bad - the good is that it gets people into street fighter/mvc faster. The bad is that they don’t understand what it takes to achieve what they are seeing. That’s why you will have statements like the above. Let me tell you with 100% certainty that if you got to top 8, you probably wouldn’t be content with just that most of the time, because the mentality you need to get to top 8 is that you want to get top 1
Well that’s kind of the whole point of this new era of fighting games is that it’s like 1991 again where your cousin actually cares about SF again and it’s always been the randoms and cousins that firstly sell fighting games, not the pros. The reason why fighting games are popular now is the same reason they were popular years back. People had fun just going to the arcade or buying the game at their house and mashing with their friends. A lot of the people that played SF at the arcades back in the day didn’t even know how to do a hadoken. You were the Daigo of your local arcade if you could hadoken. It’s the same thing now except now you can mash online and get an actual sporting event out of it from people who know what they’re doing. I didn’t even know how to play fighting games outside of blocking and doing combos until like 5 years ago.
When Capcom realized they needed to cater to their casual audience again Capcom realized fighting games actually had a way to market themselves in this low attention span era of games.
Shoutouts to DJ for being funny yet also speaking the truth though his point was completely lost to poeple in here lacking in reading comprehension abilities.
Definitely makes me wonder what characters/team he’ll end up going for once Phoenix gets nerfed up. Knowing Viscant he always looks for what will cover the most holes and if Phoenix becomes more of a liability than an obviously OP backup plan he’ll definitely get her off the team. Viscant definitely has the mindset to win Evo again in 2012 but I dunno if he’ll have the skillset or have a team as strong as that to get another win off in 12. I’d like to be proven wrong though.
If Haggar gets nerfed too hard for his tastes he’ll definitely get rid of him also. Viscant generally shows that assists are probably the biggest key to your team in your fight and having the right assist can mean the difference beween controlling the fight and not having any control at all. Haggar assist literally beats Wolverine and Wolverine was the big thing everyone was raving about. Viscant used his fighting game intellect to come up with an assist point+assist structure that beat Wolverine + Akuma and make sure he had extra insurance with Phoenix in the back.
What a badass. 10 minutes of just nonstop information.
He gives a lot of credit to Phoenix, but I really think his Wesker and Haggar did the work. It was his flexibility with assists, his solid team construction and his great defense that won him Evo.
No one mentions his defense, but all the other Phoenixes got snapped in and blown up. He kept his cool. Haggar is somewhat to thank for that (less openings for his opponent), but he was still aggressively snapped in and made it work more often than not.
I have no doubt that he’ll find an effective team in UMVC3. I think it will include 3 characters he didn’t use before, too.
According to this he’s playing Wesker/Spencer/______ next. But with Wesker looking to be nerfed and Spencer getting stealth nerfs (he remains unchanged but all his worst matchups like Taskmaster, Trish and Ammy have been buffed) I am not sure what he can do with that.
Wesker being nerfed is not a big deal unless they do a lot of shit to him. The only thing I’ve heard is lower health and that’s laughable considering everyone else that was good is losing health except for characters with no mix up like Taskmaster. Maybe you’ve heard some other stuff but lowering Wesker’s health is not gonna cut it to bring him down the tier list. Which I guess is part of why they’re giving Task a grab now so he actually has a mix up without an assist. Everybody is going to have bad matchups but since it’s a team based game you can always change your order around or switch characters to deal with different matchups.
Like Phoenix is getting actual nerfs that will allow everyone to snap kill her easily instead of just Wolverine and Dante. Wesker still sounds way too good to not use and I’m sure Spencer will still be just as strong or stronger.
They are nerfing his air throw too, it now throws your opponent to the other side of the screen instead of below you. That is probably a bigger nerf for him. They also seem to have made him slower but that’s TBC.
Back throw is the same.
His forward throw is unchanged, do a forward air throw in MvC3 with Wesker, it already kicks them far away. You have to dash unless it’s the corner.