Virtua Stick High Grade & Hori Fighting Stick 3

[Cheesey]

Ok Cheesy, I tested my High Grade on Final Burn on PC, looks like it works digital to me. However I can see how you said that you had problems pulling lariats with Zangief. But I also tested the stick on Nightwarriors: Darkstalker’s revenge, it seems like I can pull 3 button supers with Morrigan fine.

When going into the configuration, it seems to put the stick’s directional movement into the Point of View control, therefore it seems like it’s outputting digital to me.

Ok, I may have been wrong about the joystick being analog, but the reason why I raised it because in the Game Controllers applet in Vista, there is no X/Y axis movement registered at all (only in the Point of View hat). I thought that this was odd considering that with my HRAP1 and my USB converter, it registers the X/Y axis movements.

[Cheesey]

Isn’t that why the sticks were recalled?

I’ve heard that the fixed sticks have an “M” or an “S” marking at the bottom of the stick next to the label. I’m going by a post from the strikebang forums. Mine has an “S”, so the fact that my order @ play-asia was delayed by over a month until March 12, suggests that my stick is the newer revision.

[Hellfromabove]

Okay just picked up a HFS3 today and have started my process on preforming a mod. The stick is decent but there are some things. It’s the exact same thing as a DOA4 stick. Only differences are the case is now black, it has 2 more buttons on the layout, and the space between the buttons and stick are closer together :sad: . Other than that it is a pretty decent stick. I wouldn’t spend $50 on it though, I’d just get a custom stick, but I picked it up for $1 and 2 crappy PS3 games that my friend gave to me so I can’t complain. Any questions about it just ask.

-Tha Hindu

[MarkMan]

Wrote up a review on the Virtua Stick High Grade…

Check it out…

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[Cheesey]

It turns out that Sanwa buttons are a bit more sensitive than most buttons, but that isn?t a bad thing, it helps you become more precise in your physical input and helps improve window of error after continuous practice. For those of you that aren?t a fan of sensitive buttons, you?re in luck. The VSHG can easily be modified with other types of buttons such as other Sanwa types or even Seimitsu(as long as they are the same size; 30mm), although it is not reccommended by Sega as it does void the warranty by opening up your stick.

Thanks for the review, MarkMan. Are you certain about this? If I were to replace the OBSF-30 buttons that come with the VSHG, with other OBSF-30 buttons then theoretically there’d be no change. I would have thought it was something to do with how the PCB was made, rather than the button itself. I think the input timing is the issue rather than the sensitivity of the buttons. As I mentioned before, I have a HRAP1 which I modded with OBSF-30 buttons and use it on my dreamcast and ps2, but I do not have a problem with 3 button inputs whatsoever.

Has anyone been able to confirm this, because I’m finding the lack of consistency in pushing 3 buttons together extremely annoying.

[shoju]

I and the others who used the VSHG for VF5 never had any kind of problem with 3 button simultaneous inputs. Dunno what it’s like for other games but using the default settings for VF5 it was fine. Brad has a lot of 3 button inputs and I was using him.

[EveryFlowerFlow]

3. How compatible is it with PC games?

Not compatible out of the box. only the HRAP3 is

[ShinJN]

I just received the VSHG. All I have to say is that this stick is solid. High Grade is the correct title for it.

[MarkMan]

It seems the input problems are only with Tekken 5: DR and not with VF5… if anyone else has tested on both let me know…

[Shadowhaxor]

I just received the VSHG. All I have to say is that this stick is solid. High Grade is the correct title for it.

Pics… must have pics

[ShinJN]

Okay everyone, I got my VSHGs in today and I LOVE this stick. Definitely the best stock stick ever.

Here is what I did with mine:

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a141/Paik4Life/VSHG/th_P1010666.jpg

For more pics including box shots and such, see here:

http://s10.photobucket.com/albums/a141/Paik4Life/VSHG/

I’ll list the pros and cons now:

Pros:

• ALL Sanwa parts. Nice JLF with the new OBSF-30 color Black/Dark Hai (hai = grey)
• Quick disconnects
• Strong construction
• Heavy in weight
• Easily moddable (only need to remove QDs)

Cons:

• Odd button layout (most everyone will rewire the buttons to have normal layout)
• Not a lot of wrist room (doesn’t bother me but it might bother some of you)
• Needs precision pressing 3 buttons simultaneously

I think the weirdest con is definitely the 3 button press. I heard this was a problem previously for people who used this on the PC and couldn’t get Zangief’s lariat off consistently. I tried it with Tekken DR with Bryan’s taunt. It definitely has to be more precise. I know it’s not a problem with the stick being able to register 3 button inputs at once because if I buffer the 3 button press, it comes out accurately and consistently.

I didn’t detect any lag but I didn’t spend a lot of time doing time sensitive moves. I will later today and update.

I didn’t test it on PC because I don’t play games on my PC. I would just be able to tell you that it registers, and we already know it works on both Mac and PC so there’s really no point in me doing it.

~Paik

Paik4Life posted some pics.

[ShinJN]

Some information I pulled from my VSHG.

Old model number: 681-10022

New model number: 681-10022-01

As a previous poster said, there is an M engraved in the bottom right corner of the label underneath the stick.

[codyk]

Not compatible out of the box. only the HRAP3 is

And you base this on what? I hooked mine up to a winxp pc, recognized fine without any drivers. Yeah, the joystick inputs register as a hat / POV switch, but just use an emu will work with that input, or use joy2key

[Cheesey]

Some information I pulled from my VSHG.

Old model number: 681-10022

New model number: 681-10022-01

As a previous poster said, there is an M engraved in the bottom right corner of the label underneath the stick.

Mines HSN-011 with an S engraving.

[EveryFlowerFlow]

And you base this on what? I hooked mine up to a winxp pc, recognized fine without any drivers. Yeah, the joystick inputs register as a hat / POV switch, but just use an emu will work with that input, or use joy2key

windows installs it but, neither the joystick or buttons register in control panel. almost everyone I know who has it including myself has had this problem.

[Paik4Life]

BigEd has used this with emulators on his PC no problem. Ask him about it.

~Paik

[EveryFlowerFlow]

BigEd has used this with emulators on his PC no problem. Ask him about it.

~Paik

http://forums.shoryuken.com/member.php?u=40614

this guy?

[Paik4Life]

Yeah

~Paik

[EveryFlowerFlow]

BigEd has used this with emulators on his PC no problem. Ask him about it.

~Paik

he said he doesn’t own a FS3, he has a High Grade

[Paik4Life]

Oh shit, I thought you were talking about VSHG. I have HFS3 but I don’t have emus on my comp to test it.

~Paik