Virtua Stick High Grade & Hori Fighting Stick 3

[codyk]

here’s the wiring info for the VSHG:

cn 5 / 7:
triangle jab yellow
circle strong orange
L1 fierce red
square short purple
x forward blue
r1 roundhouse green
start brown

cn 6 joystick
pin:
5 ground
4 right
3 left
2 up
1 down

cn 2 optional buttons
pin:
5 ground (black)
4 R2
3 L2
2 select
1 PS

The connector on the optional button pcb doesnt come loose from the board, you’ll either have to cut the wires and splice them, or de-solder the connector & just solder wires through the hole that’s left.

[Yeton]

CodyK: Thanks, I appreciate it.

Can someone rep this guy on my behalf? Thanks!

[System_1]

Greetings, Shoryuken forums.

I’m new to this forum, but I really like what I’ve seen thus far, but I won’t run up the bill with inane chatter.

I’ve noticed that the lever in the new HRAP3 does not use a mounting plate of its own, thus there is only the control panel mounting plate or “baseplate” in place, and instead of using a flat plate to mount the lever, only the two opposed plastic wings are fastened to the centre screw holes on the control panel mounting plate, as shown here: http://farm1.static.flickr.com/188/389352816_2e7de520a8.jpg

I’ve also noticed that the stick in fubarduk’s (I think that’s his name) stick swapping guide is mounted with a flat plate la JLF-TP-8YT, which is strange, considering Sanwa doesn’t seem to normally offer a JLF stick with both a flat plate and a shaft cover.

And so, this brings me to two questions, the first of which is, given Hori’s fairly controversial revisions of their control panel mounting plates and now this flat plate-omission factor, can the lever be swapped in the HRAP3 with the distances between all the appropriate screw holes on the control panel mounting plate with all of the other JLF-TP-8Y series levers and possibly using a flat plate?

The other question is does the HRAP1vB use the same missing-flat plate configuration as the HRAP3? I ask this because I’ve used a friend’s HRAP1vB controller and can testify as to its quality, but my concern is that since the wings extending from the base of the lever in the HRAP3 that are fastened to the baseplate are not very wide, the lever may be succeptible to rocking and may as a result not be as sturdy as I’ve deemed the HRAP1vB. In case it helps in prognosing any problems, I would likely be using this stick for just about every good shoot-em-up, 3S, the Tekken series and maybe even Virtua Fighter one day, and the like.

Right, so I’m sort of eager to pick this stick up, pending confirmation of its integrity, so the latter would be appreciated.

[System_1]

i’ve played both the hori and vf stick for VF5. they’re both good sticks, but i’d put the VF stick above the hori because it just feels soo good, and the hori feels cheap after a while.

[Yeton]

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Hi malik11, I can’t really help you with those queries myself, but you might want to try reposting your questions here for better responses.

Update: modded my VSHG with a series A dualshock, and it works great! Just waiting for a new balltop to arrive from Akihabarashop to put the finishing touches to it!

[shadowkiller]

I don’t have a ps3 yet but since my namco stick + converter has a slight delay when i play online. So i was thinking about getting a hori fighting stick 3 which i can get for 60 euros new at a shop near my school or a hrap3 sp when it comes out which will cost me 109 euros from playasia. Which would be more suited for in terms of game play for mame and ps3. And would any of these work with a sp1 winxp. (with out dling the drivers)

[TingBoy]

I don’t have a ps3 yet but since my namco stick + converter has a slight delay when i play online. So i was thinking about getting a hori fighting stick 3 which i can get for 60 euros new at a shop near my school or a hrap3 sp when it comes out which will cost me 109 euros from playasia. Which would be more suited for in terms of game play for mame and ps3. And would any of these work with a sp1 winxp. (with out dling the drivers)

Buying the HRAP3 won’t get rid of that slight lag while playing online. That slight lag is from, well, playing online and not from the controller and/or converter.

Btw, the namco stick is an excellent stick. You shouldn’t need to replace it unless the buttons/stick is too worn out and you don’t feel like modding it.

[shadowkiller]

Buying the HRAP3 won’t get rid of that slight lag while playing online. That slight lag is from, well, playing online and not from the controller and/or converter.

Btw, the namco stick is an excellent stick. You shouldn’t need to replace it unless the buttons/stick is too worn out and you don’t feel like modding it.

Actually i never had any delay when i use a pad when i play with my friend who lives 3 streets from here. Thats why i wanted one of these 2 which are from what i heard delayless. But sometimes when the converter isn’t plugged when i start my comp there is a major delay even offline. And your right the namco stick is a good stick but i need a ps3 stick any way for when i get a ps3 so its best to get one now till they get rare like the hrap1/2 don’t you say.

[dobiqwolf]

xpadder, xmapper, xwhatever…(my bad, wrong name).

It sets the inputs on the stick to be keyboard inputs. You can play big bang beat using keyboard inputs, soooooo…xpadder sees what the stick does, and tricks the computer into thinking you hit that key you assigned to it in xpadder. BBB thinks you hit the up arrow key, and your character jumps. Doesnt sound like you mapped the d-pad to keys.

thx dude, i picked up my VFHG today and couldnt use it on BBB and other doujin but thx to your post now i can.

[System_1]

Looks like the VSHG is being pulled off the shelves: http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20070209/vs.htm

google translated link

:sad:

No, you’re right. Engravings with either ‘S’ or ‘M’ are recalled sticks that are supposed to be fixed.

Does anyone know how I’ll be able to identify if when it arrives the VSHG stick I ordered is a problem one?

I wouldn’t be worried if I’d ordered from Play-Asia as I know they’ve just restocked so they’re def gonna be new models, but I bought mine from a smaller local UK importer, I have no idea how long the stick I bought has been in sitting in stock there, it could be an early model…

:looney:

[simplygriff]

If it comes in the box, the box should have a sticker barcode over the original printed barcode/UPC. If it does not, it could be a problem unit.
-G

[System_1]

If it comes in the box, the box should have a sticker barcode over the original printed barcode/UPC. If it does not, it could be a problem unit.
-G

Ok cheers for info.

Can anyone clearly clarify exactly what the problems were with the early recalled models? so I can look out for them

any help appreciated

[simplygriff]

I think it was just missing inputted commands. Just had a really hard time keeping up with what people were doing. Essentially it was a faulty PCB.

You can google Virtua Stick High Grade problems or recall and find all kinds of info.
-G

[SaveFighting]

Even the later models have the direction plus three button problem. A friend ordered a VSHG last week and it still has the problem. Blah! Avoid the VSHG at all costs unless you are willing to change the PCB to a PS2 controller. :arazz:

Still the best designed stock stick, too bad the poor PCB let it down. :sad:

[deadfrog]

I finally decide I want a VSHG and Play-Asia sells out of them that day! Seriously, what are the chances?!!

I can’t imagine I’m going to find it anywhere else that will sell and ship one to me for $120 Can.

Does anyone know of any reputable organizations or individuals that are still carrying the VSHG and are not bank rapers?

[System_1]

I finally decide I want a VSHG and Play-Asia sells out of them that day! Seriously, what are the chances?!!

Pretty high, Play-Asia sell out the VSHG quite frequently. They usually get it back in stock pretty swiftly though.

You could email them for an ETA.

[System_1]

I finally decide I want a VSHG and Play-Asia sells out of them that day! Seriously, what are the chances?!!

I can’t imagine I’m going to find it anywhere else that will sell and ship one to me for $120 Can.

Does anyone know of any reputable organizations or individuals that are still carrying the VSHG and are not bank rapers?

Oh boy… I feel sorry for you, but that is just life… Ordered myself last week on Wednesday/Thursday. Started thinking about it Wednesday and ordered Thursday. Originally I also wanted to have the HRAP 3, to be able to compare sticks. But alas, when I placed my order a day later it was already sold out… at least the VSHG was still there, so I ordered that. Got it on Monday and gotta say:

THIS THING IS STUNNING! Best device I have ever owned! Dont care about the HRAP 3 anymore… The SEGA stick is by far the better choice.

Keep on checking that site or send them a mail. It would be a shame if you couldnt get one anymore… but I already saw other shops that still have it listed… renchi for example.

Good Luck!

[deadfrog]

Thanks a ton for the responses, guys. That’s funny, I never even considered the possibility of them re-stocking.

[Fulaani]

well, it says the HRAP3 is out of stock but is on back-order. The VSHG is noted as ‘out of print’

[simplygriff]

I don’t know if they’ll ship to Canada but you can go through these guys. It’s where mine came from.

http://www.ncsxshop.com/cgi-bin/shop/HSN-0011.html
-G