Well we’ve kinda already broken down how it isn’t because you won’t be able to see which throw it is and break it on reaction. There are only three throw input directions (forward, neutral, back) but you the game will only accept one throw escape input. It’s a guessing game where you have a 33% chance of breaking a throw. This, seems to be one of the more major changes to VF.
The only top Tekken + VF players (who’ve competed with the best in the world at both games) I know of who’ve given an opinion have both said they like VF better (Ryan Hart and Shin Z). There 2 people who can compare both games at the highest level. Until about 6 years ago VF was supposed to be dominant in Japan. That it lost it’s crown there isn’t purely down to the gameplay, Reno went through some of the reasons why it fell. VF5R wasn’t even available outside of Japan so no chance for it in Korean or other arcade scenes in Asia and who knows how much effort Sega would have put into pushing the game overseas if it had been.
So now more Double or triple throw escape commands. It seems like it is going to feel like Soul calibur, and is based off of purely guessing.
Disregarding educated guesses based on overall threat offf a specific throw (i.e. RO, positioning, or it just does significantly more damage then the other throws)… Yes.
even with double or triple throw escapes you weren’t able to eliminate the guess aspect because characters had more than 2 or 3 throw directions in vf4 and 5.
It’s gonna be 2 TE but ONE direction, meaning neutral and then back or foward, not just one between neutral, back or foward. It’s the VF3 TE System.
Also characters had different throw directions. You had to know if a character had a down+back or down direction throw in order to escape it. Now everyone has the exact same throw directions, forward, neutral, and back. The new throw system reduces the amount of memorization that you had to do by making all characters throw directions homogenized. So far this is just the first week of testing, maybe the new throw system will change a little, maybe even dramatically. We just get to wait and see.
that’s just one match, and rain is known for an offensive playstyle. they both probably would just turtle up the next match. you often see a lot of top level matches in tekken where it’s very defensive, whereas it’s mostly rushdown in VF.
why is ryan hart even mention in this? the guy admitted that he barely plays tekken 6, so whatever he said is irrelevant.
VF loses to tekken in popularity in japan because top players realized that tekken has better gameplay, whereas VF is just a bunch of lame fuzzy option selects. you actually have to be careful in tekken cuz one launcher can lead to half-life and oki, whereas VF is just rushing that shit down by trying to outguess your opp.
i’m dissapointed with the VF community, not only did noone can come up with any credible argument against my points, but y’all choose to stay in denial about VF’s flawed gameplay. the game is ass, the only thing it has going for it is shiny graphic and j breezies. it just shows that this community is at a very low level of critical thinking.
reno, giving only me the infraction while you and everyone else was equally guilty of doing the same thing? if you want to ban one of the few members left on this board who actually has knowledge and knows something, then so be it. but it doesn’t change the fact that you’re just another power tripping peasant.
Except you know… Ryan Hart wins tournaments. 
I guess your definition of “plays Tekken at a high level” is something like “only plays Tekken at high level”
lol “Just a bunch of lame fuzzy option selects.” You could just as easily say that once you get past the huge amount of memorization and execution barriers, Tekken is basically just “Play dry and safe as hell until somebody fucks up large enough to land a launcher into wall carry ftw.” Except there’s still more to the game then that, just like VF. These “lame option selects” all require a commitment (even if true fuzzy guard is rather small) and all have clear ways to punish it. What’s worse is that you’re saying this when you apparently haven’t even played the game against anybody offline (Or at the very least, against anybody who knows what they’re doing). Judging a game after having owned it for a month or two and watching a few videos makes you appear to be an idiot and/or a troll. You say that we are just insulting you and avoiding your questions, but you’ve been doing the same this whole time.
again, you’re completely missing the point. i’m a top player with proven credentials, while you’re just a random nobody talking about a game that you’re still a scrub at. i can analyze strategies more accurately since i possess more advanced knowledge than you. lemme ask, so you think it’s better to be constantly on the offense and outguessing the opponent instead of having a balance of offense and defence? you prefer grabs being beastly instead of being able to break them on reaction most of the time? you prefer to do a bunch of option select inputs instead of having a simpler/more logical method to deal with multiple situations?
El Blaze vids!!! Credit to dapheenom for posting these at VFDC, and to AM2 for knowing how to make a Luch Libre character.
vs Kage
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vs Akira
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vs Goh
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vs Jeffrey
?VF5FS? ??? vs ??? ???(9)
vs Brad
?VF5FS? ??? vs ??? ???(9)
vs Sarah
?VF5FS? ??? vs ?? ???(9)
vs Wolf
?VF5FS? ??? vs ?? ???(9) (I thought Wolf looked gross here, like out of a trailer park).
For those without a nicovideo account click here and copy paste the links on to that site.
Yo, I never asked for a person to be negged or exiled before, but can someone ban this kid PLEASE? His posts make my flesh crawl.
said the buffoon with another worthless post, there’s shame in having no shame.
I like these changes- it gets rid of barriers, and I don’t think it hurts gameplay (unless you consider said barriers great gameplay)
The end result is throws are going to be more dangerous at high level, and less at low level- which is how it should be.
Says the guy with no shame. Can we ban this fool already? 4 pages with this idiot’s off-topic drivel. God.
how am i going off-topic when you’re the one doing the initial off-topic posts? i’m actually giving credible comparisions between tekken and VF, yet you peasants are lacking the intelligence to take up my argument and resorting to name calling.
See the topic? It’s a topic about VF. Not about your opinion of how Tekken is better than VF backed up by nothing but words and baseless conjecture. “I’m skilled because I say so and you’re all scrubs so I’m right NYEEEAAAAAHHHH” is roughly about the gist of your argument. Never mind that there are a number of experienced tournament players in this thread and you called Ryan Hart a scrub. Who’s won more tournaments than you’ll probably ever participate in. Top 10 in XBL? Show up to a proper tournament and maybe we’ll give a shit.
You’re either a troll or a ridiculous moron. Go away.
1.You’re dumb.
2.You’re a hypocrite.
Don’t worry, the problem has been taken care of. 