Konami evil as fuck… Fuck that company.
Now I feel like kicking some extra dough to Iga.
I challenged Po to a Pokebattle and he ducked the crap outta me. Oz is just returning the favour.
Told yo ass I was retired from pokebattles…
You can retire from Pokebattles?
Sure. I did too, remember?
DEATH TO RNG
I’m more surprised that you can even reject a pokebattle after being challenged. I thought the moment they saw you that it was mandatory regardless of whether you were in the mood or not.
Tell that to Blue in Pokemon Gold/Silver.
I figured out what was going on just fine without the GBA game. I played Chains after KHII and it really didn’t add any value to the story for me.
I usually figure out the “surprise” twist ending in games about half way though.
With rare exceptions I don’t like it when side games try to fill in huge holes in the plot to understand the story. That what the main series is for.
Side games, at least to me is supposed to flesh out some background story or give some character development to someone who be ignored in the main series.
To me the KH side games (except Chains) are more to hold KH III hostage than to fill any plot specific role.
I would give examples how I could guess the main plot twist in games but… aw fuck it that is what spoiler tags are for
Spoiler
Example in Lunar Silver Star Story for the PS1 I figured out early that Luna is really the goddess Athena
Now Bayonetta, fuck I didn’t see half of that game coming around.
No, I didn’t based my opinion of it from Wiki, I based my opinion of Birth by Sleep by how far it was off from my radar.
I don’t hate it, for me to hate it I have to put effort to hate.
Its a side game from a series I don’t follow except for the main titles.
I based my opinions from my expectations for the series. I heard about Dream Drop, Coded and 358/2, I didn’t care for them, tried them (they were loaned to me for a week or 2) and decided it wasn’t my cup of tea.
If Birth by Sleep anything like the others then I don’t care about birth by sleep ether.
Like if they, … I don’t know, (lets pick a series that we both might respect) Dark Souls III our expectations are based from Dark Souls 1 and 2 (and maybe similar games like Bloodborne).
Like I am actually on the fence about if I am getting KH III or not. Nothing I seen so far is helping out. The vids I do see isn’t helping out.
I sorta have the same opinion but I feel the Disney Properties are overshadowing everything else. KH feels to me more like a Disney crossover with Final Fantasy being used as Glue rather than a Dinsey/SquareEnix Crossover that people though would happen before the first game came out. Its made more apparent in KH II. I admit the manga adaption isn’t bad.
I actually feel sorry for you their
Dunno why you’re feeling sorry. Roxas is awesome.
Roxas is cool if you’re 12 years old…
aside from that, fuck KHIII. Won’t buy unless we can traverse the Cory in the House universe.
Frozen level plz. Mandatory and exactly like the Little Mermaid level in KH2 or I will boycott this game.
The irony is, since you said you haven’t played DDD (only read the spoiler if you have no intention of doing so or don’t care or already know).
Spoiler
Yeah, Nobodies do have emotions, at least the Organization. Actually it goes further, after Humanoid Nobodies spend enough time alive and forming attachments they actually gain hearts. The Org was gaining their hearts back which makes Sora look like an even bigger asshole than before. However even if Sora questioned it, the only one with said knowledge was Xemnas and Xehanort. No one else really knew.
To try and go Spoiler Free with the rebuttal, there’s really two things to say about Sora being an immense douche to the Org (beyond obviously needing to defeat them). 1, Sora tends to believe high authority figures. Luckily for him and not a certain other protagonist, the authority figures he runs into are on the side of good. However as you said, Yen Sid didn’t know as well as he thought so his naivete transferred onto Sora who just ran with it as he had more reason to believe Yen Sid.
But more importantly, 2, Sora believing they had emotions wouldn’t have changed much other than him being mildly less of an asshole to them. He would still have to defeat and kill them.
Only that they are not side games. Chains, Birth by Sleep and 3D all contribute to the main story of the series and left plot trends for KHIII to resolve. 358/2 Days and Re:coded are only actual side games since they don’t contribute to the overarching narrative of the series. You only play 358/2 if you care about Roxas and the only thing that matters about Re:coded is finding out the contents of the letter Mickey gave Sora in the first game.
As for Chains, some things in KHII don’t make sense without playing it. Like finding Sora in the mansion in the playable prologue, introducing Organization XIII in a fashion that the player should already be familiar with them and Naminé when Sora sees her at the end of the game.
So what makes Roxas compelling?
Actually due to Dream Drop Distance, 358/2 Days is becoming more plot relevant.
He just is for me.
…I probably couldn’t give you a proper reason why I like the characters I do, or find them compelling or whatever. 99% of the time I just end up liking them because.
That’s also the backstory behind my liking Rainbow Dash so much.
Do I really need a reason though?
That’s not how human beings work. You like him for some kind of reason, you just haven’t spent time really digging into why you do.
Whether or not you WANT to spend that time is up to you of course, but there’s always reasons.
[details=Spoiler]Yea I know about the DDD revelation, but I still don’t like it because it’s a problem intrinsically tied to KHII’s narrative, which is a completely different game from DDD. It spoils that particular games mood and your ability to get behind the hero of the story because he spends the whole game acting like a heartless villain. It also makes DDD look more like it’s trying to apply a band aid to a narrative problem that started somewhere else, when if they had just written Sora as having the ability to think for himself then DDD would be a game that confirms his suspicions, instead of coming off like a band aid (and making him look like an even bigger asshole then he already did.)
Now I understand that knowing wouldn’t have made a big difference in the long run of the way the narrative plays out in the end. Even still there’s something to be said for a protagonist who questions his own actions, is capable of introspection, and learns from what he sees himself over just blindly believing what someone else has told them despite evidence that is blatantly in his face that says his benefactors might be wrong. It would also change Sora’s behavior from that of an asshole, to one who has empathy. If he believes there is a chance that these guys actually do have feelings, and that all they want back is their hearts, then Sora is now in the position of being able to empathize with these people even tho he knows he still needs to kill them because despite the fact they do have emotions and desires and wants, the things they plan to do to get their hearts back is too detrimental to the greater whole of the worlds and must be stopped regardless. Just because you want something real bad doesn’t mean you get to have it at the expense of everyone else around you, and that’s all the justification Sora would have needed to continue fighting.
Doing this humanizes not only the enemies, but Sora himself. It shows he’s capable of making his own damn decisions (the decision to continue fighting the Org despite suspecting that what he knows about them could very well be false). The decision to not blindly believe everything an authority figure tells him. One of the things about becoming a teenager is learning that you can be your own person, you can have your own thoughts and feelings about things. A theme of KHII is that of getting older. Growing up. Sora is no longer 10 but he still kind of acts like it, and the naivete of blindly believing everything an adult tells you is something teenagers don’t do, they begin to become autonomous. They specifically start questioning and doubting authority because they are now old enough to see that authority figures are fallible. It’s that time in your life where you learn and come to terms with the fact that your dad isn’t Superman. This is something Sora should have done in KHII. You just don’t see someone sacrifice their life for something that really doesn’t benefit themselves in anyway besides saving the life of a friend, and then continue to think that person is devoid of emotion. Self sacrifice for another is blatant emotional decision making, come on Sora I know you’re not blind.
I am glad they are recognizing this in the story of DDD (and perhaps KHIII as well), but in some ways it’s too little too late, and in the case of KHII that particular narrative line and lack of character growth for Sora is really damaging to KHII as a whole package.
I’m fine with Sora believing Yen Sid as he has no reason to think the guy would lie to him, or be flat out wrong (especially with the way Goofy and Donald where treating the guy), I simply have a problem with Sora at absolutely no point thinking to himself “Man…Perhaps Yen Sid was wrong.” I have the same problem with Terra, not once does the guy manage to think to himself “You know perhaps this isn’t a road I want to walk down.” I’d be fine if he had continued to do so after the introspection if he had deemed a good reason for doing so, it’s the fact that he just never once seems to question it. He questions himself a lot, but he never manages to look outside his own self doubt. Because of that his dense ass following of Xehanort works better here then it did in KHII because Terra clearly has serious self confidence issues so at least there is a tangible reason for it, even if it is still kind of annoying that dude doesn’t figure it out till its waaaaaaaaay too fucking late. Sora doesn’t have that excuse tho, Sora OOOZES confidence, so I feel he would have the confidence to question an authority figures judgment when he sees very clear examples of what he’s been told could potentially be false. I know Yen Sid told him they will pretend to have emotions, but no one pretends to wail in agony and despair when they die (Demyx) or sacrifice their own well being for that another (Axel). That shit (especially the fucking Axel situation) should at least give you some pause. [/details]I spoiler tagged my whole response because I don’t feel like trying to parse out parts that are spoiler or not so just consider the whole thing to be one.
Yeah, I don’t know what other answer I was expecting.
KH is for faggots