Still having I frame debates this long in? Have you guys been playing vega this long and still can’t aa? You need to change your philosophy, maybe try playing nothing but vega so you mind doesn’t default to ryu-like dp’s as anti air. It’s nice to see jozhear as the voice of reason.
For myself, changes look good! I would have liked to see CH at -2, but getting frame advantage at range is just retarded, and I’m sure that’s what capcom was trying to fix. I couldn’t come up with a good answer myself, so I can’t complain too much. If you reduce the active frames, that means it has less range or moves faster, both of which could be bad.
I have been out of the loop, can someone explain why Bhc is now better? Crossup on wakeup? I still like SC, but I have crazy reactions, so that helps.
But what if vega is the one who gets blowback I mean the oponent stays grounded and vega gets pushed back…far enough to not being punished…this could be the case on block to…shc wold be safe (excep on corners)…that’s the way it was on sfa3
There were a few translations regarding shc the one with blowback and another hits players who are ducking. Not sure how that came about but i think we are getting 2 buffs to shc. A shit special like that should be relatively safe.
either way, something is getting pushed back. and SHC still stays that situational, premptive AA that it has always been. I wonder if there is a way to make SHC -2 on block, now that would be a buff to write home about.
which reminds me
@jacopx?
if you are landing SHC to punish attempts to stuff FBA in the air, I seriously belive that you are doing way to many random FBA’s.
When the knee part of bhc hits in ae and super it hapens often that the oponent gets juggled so hight that the actual ultra whiff…now whenever the knee hits the whole ultra will conect must of the times…it doesn’t mean that it won’t ever wiff anymore…Probably it will still miss every now and then…
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There are a lot of vega players who just fancy being under dogs, so making him significantly better will just burst their bubble. So what if we get a buff that makes us A or S tier? WTF are the seats in the top tiers reserved?
Vega was lower bottom tier in AE now he got a few C grade buffs while a lot of the high tier chars got several A grade buffs. Where does this leave us? Yun and yang’s dive kick is a key part of their game if you think they’re gonna nerf this then the joke is gonna be on you. Im glad for the buff and fix but common give us something else pleeease.
I dont care how satisfied how you guys pretend to be, cuz until i see one of you in any top ten of a worthy tournament then just shut your trap.You guys pretend youtube doesnt exist and we dont look at you EATING jump-ins and sucking at anti airs also. Who the hell are you trying to trick…You guys make ryu look like he’s high on Fu*&%ng Gummyberry juice.
Its darn obvious vega needs a safer anti air- Shit!!! get rid of that dumb ass super and give me a super like hakkan u2. What I would give just to shove my foot up ryu’s ass when he abuses that last Jhk.
Or wtf take away SKC, St mp, Cl. lk, our super, PPP flip, of ex mask throw and all those dumb F*&$ing useless moves we have and give us some real utility. Or give them some form of application. Seriously if someone hits me when im taking off my mask i think i should counter >beat them in their face with it. Take back your shitty Health/DMG buff. Who the FU*% gives up one bar to remain at the same net benefit.
Vega seems to be the dump site for moves other characters dont want. Fine…I accept that…Can i get that ooooh so shitty vanilla version ryu ultra 2…pleeease
…end of angry venting after loosing 7 consecutive games to ryu J.HK/HP…
How did this mind set work out for you and all your cody buddies at evo…I seemed to have gotten a bogus report on evo top 30 cuz some one removed your name and all the other cody’s from the list. Could you send me a more accurate report please.
Regards,
Pissed off Vega who primarily hates Ryu and yun.
It might be true that we’re whinier now because we expect things to be patched but strategies and tricks have been developed despite what he says. In fact if this was cvs2 era then people just wont play the game - whos going to be developing strategies then? When we’re “whining” and being vocal about stuff here, believe it or not useful information is being swapped around.
I dont think theres is any correlation between balance updates and players becoming soft. More like the opposite we’re now far more aware of the technical capabilities of the characters than before.
You should quote where some one mentioned Cr. lk being useless. That way we know who you’re referring to…I thought C means close and Cr means crouching but i might be wrong. I think i should go edit and put Cl
As far as a close range Anti air is concerned, I just slide under the opponent. Granted, I don’t hit the guy but I’m kept at a generally neutral position. In fact, good timing puts me at a advantage for a nice counter hit combo (if the opponent is foolish enough to do that that is).
Might be true? It -is- true. If thsi were cvs2 era people would actually find their way around/through the challenge, you know, put in actual work into their character instead of coming to a forum and being spoonfed information, they develop their own strategies, which makes for way better players.
Also, useful information? Where? I’ve seen nothing of the sort so far, just tears followed by more tears.
cl.lk is a safe move on block and is on advantage on hit, but provide counter hit options as well as helps push the opponent back to a more mid range where Vega excels.
In all cases where slide works dash works better and leaves you at better frame advantage. And FADC works better since you have that split second armor incase your opponent can alter his jump. But good discovery. :eek: Thnx for the save now we will have no problems since we can just slide our way to top 10.
Any other tips …I mean with two of such discoveries we would have no problem securing the 10 top spots with vega. How about cr. mk comboing to Cr. mp…did you discover that one too…huh…Mr Pioneer of using what we got…Please save us…
