Is it at all dependent on the strength of the Tornado?
yes every punch version ex roll just beats it from what i found out so far and ex version of ginga is just like all other ex moves the Fierce version and ex roll still just beats it easy as he becomes immune to the suck in part and by the time he is about to Slap u or w/e he does the ex roll would of been hitting him already
Wait, beats or punishes. As in, can you hit them on block with it?
o sorry i meant to say beat but normally i’d punish with crouch mk crouch mp ex izuna >< my bad…
all of rufus’ tornadoes are safe on block
o so my opponent never has been crouch blocking lol
EX roll hits low?
artistic interpretation of Claw v Zangief
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not ex roll hits low i meant when rufus does his tornado i normally hitted my opponent with cr mk, cr mp, ex izuna combo which is where the cr mk is hitting low part
Also, for 50% of your meter you can do an EX version of the claw throw, and he will throw his mask, which decreases his defense, but increases his attack power.
Not joking. I read it in one of those movelist analysis doc’s.
Does he retain this bonus after he picks up the mask from the EX version?
I honestly dont know because I havent been able to try it yet, and havent seen anybody else do it.
but I would think everything goes back to normal (including his defense).
maybe someone else can confirm?
dunno why capcom gave him a set of neutral jumping normals. they are completely useless and the only thing i can think of was capcoms way of nerfing him from cvs2. (jump up and down hp/hk was really good in that game)
flip kick loses to everything on the ground
is it possible to ultra after his d/f hk launcher or FA crumple?
No, so far I dont know any combos to ultra.
His neutral jump Mk. is the only decent one of those moves.
I tried messing with the Mask throw and Im not sure how long he retains the bonus.
but one match against a viper, I used it, and I hit with an Ex walldive -> izuna drop. it did about a fifth of her life. More than an SPD. It’s the only time I notcied damage like that, I’m guessing it works like an SF3 taunt, where the next move will do increased damage. if not then it’s increased damage for a bit unless he puts his mask back on.
I also found out that EX Flying barcelona attack can hit twice. 1st when he puts his hands forward and the 2nd hit is when he spreads his arms. Damage is good.
Whoever explain how to do his super motion by say from DB, roll from forward to UB or to DB, UF. I thank you, It’s because of that I can pull his ultra out no problem now as well as faster.
the funny thing is that how I play with claw, I’m so used to backflipping that I can’t use anyone else. (Backflipping through Ryu’s ultra then countering with my own = awesome.)
I do not see why Ino said Claw was bottom.
the bonus only retains for the next attack i believe from the Mask throw ex
so i spose his claw throw move is to enhance defense for the loss of range pokes? and i suppose for the next hit only too…
good shit brentobox for finding out that ex wall dive punishes honda’s headbutt :badboy:
as for the tier list goes, i think its bullshit that vega is bottom tier mainly because he doesn’t deal enough damage when he finds and opening.
vega’s character wasn’t designed for offense but slowly frustrating and wearing your opponent down bit by bit. he still does a really good job at it. if you want an offensive character, play abel, balrog or rufus. but if you like to slowly annoy your opponent to death from a distance, by all means use vega.
is it just me or did anyone here got excited after first hearing he can throw his mask and claw at his opponent? i was pretty hyped when i first heard it. i thought maybe he can use it like a fireball and hurl his claw and mask at his opponent like captain america throws his shield in msh and mvc. maybe also make it ricochet off his opponent and bounce back to him.:lol: sadly, its only a taunt and power up (not quite)
Any new claw matches lately? I can’t find any.
2 new matches in gamechariot vs Ryu but both losses
http://gamechariot.movie.coocan.jp/movie/080910_sf4_04.wmv
http://gamechariot.movie.coocan.jp/movie/080910_sf4_05.wmv
movie 5 claw shows us that jump fp or fk standing fp can link to crouch mp into ex izuna but i guess only against bigger characters don’t know why he kept on doin it against Ryu when it missed the first time already? should of just done jump fp or fk crouch lp crouch mp ex izuna against smaller characters like in 04 or the staple 4 hit jump fp or fk crouch mp or crouch mk to ex izuna… Also he needs to stop sliding after df+hk hits should of done ex izuna for more damage could of won the match i reckon… And i never see any of them use ex high claw or w/e the move is called ex down+up punch to go through those fireballs :(…
Thank you. I saw how he could have won. It was straight F in my book.
does anyone remember if you do the ex claw/mask, does a rose come out as well? i remember doing it once, i swear i saw claw,mask, plus a rose, unless im just seeing shit
wow never seen him throw a rose before think you are seeing poo 