Congratulations on surpassing all other Claw players before you.
Seriously stfu you sound like an 09’er going on about how they played all the best players and know their shit yet can’t back any of it up.
Go make a “pointless bullshit boasting thread” and post your shit there.
This is for actual strategy that can be tried, tested and proven.
I have nothing to prove but since you started the second guessing, you’d better be prepared to finish it. There are a lot of folks with bad tactics to call out but you focused on the wrong guy. I don’t appreciate cocky novices calling me out because they’re too lazy to try stuff out.
So you want me to back my skills up, huh? I agree: talk is cheap. Tell you what, if you think some matches on Live or GGPO would show who’s more credible, then just let know (we can do ft5, ft10, ft20, whatever). You can play any character you want. Go ahead and tape it if you feel like it. Loser comes back and gets to say what an idiot they are.
This is way more than you deserve for being an ass but if that’s what it takes to show folks like you that you’re not there yet, I will. Or if you want to take the smart path, stand down and do some testing; I think you’re way above your head here.
Sorry for the thread derailment, guys. Get at me if you want some matches.
How dumb are you ?
How the hell would me playing you have anything to do with your utter inability to backup your claims with any fact or knowledge ?
Just GTFO until you actually post how you walldive on blanka.
99% of anyone that has played HDR or ST for any amount of time knows that you don’t walldive on blanka.
Seriously stop making yourself out to be an idiot.
And what the hell are you doing in this thread if you don’t have any interest in sharing knowledge if that’s your argument for not posting this magical way of walldiving which you and only you know of.
Scrub.
Seems like you started trash talking and aren’t at all confident about your own skill. The fact is that I’m confident I know every matchup better and you can play or bring your pals specializing in other characters to play to realize your utter ignorance. That’s why I suggested you can play any character. If you don’t think you can bring out your Theory Fighter in actual matches, the just shut up and let whoever really wants to learn the character to incorporate it bit by bit into their tactics.
I provided help and you’re just too dumb to realize or accept it without having everything spoon fed to you. I don’t believe in that; I give hints and expect folks to figure it out for themselves. If you can’t take that in, you’re obviously not ready to go to the next level. You’re the first to take offense that I’m giving advice, was too lazy to comprehensively try it out, and are now disputing my claim without doing anything.
We’re discussing tactics. I suggested a tactic. It’s already been written here in full through the thread but you don’t bother reading the whole thing again. Getting any morsel at all used to be appreciated but now it seems at least 1 idiot needs every detail of every move until the insults stop. I thought giving bad advice was dumb but it seems refusing to consider advice is even more inane. It seems your head has been blown out of proportion after beating fellow novices.
You’re just repeating yourself without making any arguments.
I’m done with this discussion until you provide an actual argument that is not based on a fallacy.
Your idiotic idea of how beating me somehow would prove your silly theory of how your magical walldive works on blanka is about as logical as a boxer saying blocking is useless and then because he beat someone saying that proves him right.
You only show that you have no grasp of logic or a scientific method and have an intellect on the level of a young earth creatonist.
And you’re just making ad hominem comments, which is even more dense. Think about it. You’re questioning me based on your poor knowledge, I graciously offer a demonstration of this and other matchups that would directly prove you just don’t know, and now you’re scared to see whose tactics work better in actual matches? GTFO, what a coward. Get back at me if you want to play instead of post.
Both of you are respected Vegas as far as I’ve read in the “good players you’ve fought” thread. There is no sense in beating this dead horse.
Sharizord, I know what you are saying because most of the time, wall dive is stuffed by either horizontal, rainbow, or vertical ball.
Blacmore, I also see what you are saying. If Vega extends claw at right moment, it CAN beat Blanka ball, however, really risky. I also know that you can fake walldive and fake out a vert ball to counter.
You’re both right. Honestly, most Vegas wouldn’t challenge the ball because it will get stuffed directly by the ball, but you can wall dive as a fakeout and crossdive on a blanka that is getting up, still risking reversal ball.
I’d love to see a fight between you both. What better way to settle an argument than taking it to the streets (Pardon pun)
This has nothing to do with the debate but I think the young earth theory is very valid, I mean you either believe we call come from rocks that appeared of nothing or from a guy that created everything lol. Anyhow I don’t want to derail this further but what would wall diving on Blanka even amount to…I mean even if it was possible I’m guessing it’s highly situational and strict in timing.
Well I went through this thread trying to find what Ganelon was calling his explanation as to why you can wall dive blanka. Basically what I can gather from what Ganelon has written, correct me if I am wrong Ganelon, is that he believes any move can be used in your favor given that you do it in the right situation. I believe he is reluctant to mention specifically which situations it can be used in, because he does want to keep at least some of his st vega findings to himself. I can see why you are frustrated though shari, because no real evidence has been discussed or shown as to why vegas can wall dive blanka. Honestly though it seems staying on the ground with vega is very effective against blanka. I think the overall point Ganelon is trying to make though is that you shouldn’t box yourself into thinking only certain moves work on certain characters etc. and that you should always be in a state of experimentation with how moves can work against many different characters in different situations. Oh and Evo I think the most you can get from a wall dive in a realistic situation is a crouching mp. However, I think it’s important to think about the surprise factor in a tight vega/blanka match where a small amount of damage could be the deciding factor and what reasonable blanka would be expecting a vega wall dive?
Dude, you don’t wall dive on blanka. At least not a blanka that has any idea of how to play against claw. It’s like the STREET FITER law
I’ve been playing a lot of hdr vega on hdr, but I also want to try to learn vanilla st so I try playing online vs matches in classic mode and I still have yet to play a single classic match. Is it just consensus that if you are going to play vanilla st that you get on ggpo and ignore the feature on hdr?
Doubt there is any consensus.
But there is no real reason to play classic on HDR if you have the option of playing it on GGPO.
The reason I asked is I am having a hard time getting ggpo running right now and hdr classic is my only option. If I ever get ggpo running I will play st on there, but in the mean time I was hoping to get practice, oh well. Also I notice the same thing on hdr rebalanced tournament mode though. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a tournament being run on hdr rebalanced except when the game first came out.
I believe it, too…by the way.
Shari…Ganelon…just fight already. Shari…you pick Blanka. Ganelon…pick Claw. Prove your points about wall diving against Blanka in battle and tape the results. Simple problem solving in action here.
alan909090: Yeah, pretty much. I actually do think some moves are totally useless though. MK flipkick doesn’t seem to have any application at any point. j.LP (upwards or directional) is pretty useless too from everything I’ve tried.
Nobody plays classic on STHD sadly enough. But yeah, it’s no big deal because there’s plenty of comp on GGPO at all skill levels. Plus, GGPO runs quite a bit smoother too (esp. compared to PSN). It’s definitely worth your while to get it up if you want to play ST.
Honestly though, the 2 games are similar enough that it’s not a big deal transitioning between the 2. It’s just easier in most ST matches when you score a knockdown. The main things that will affect your gameplan are Blanka’s new horizontal ball recovery, Guile’s HK flash kick range, Zangief’s added invincibility on the lariat, and Dhalsim’s extended yoga blast.
I don’t play Blanka at all which is why that would prove nothing.
I’ll be more than happy to help you guys out with this. I’m curious to see if any of that stuff works myself.
We can do a 4 player room and someone can record the matches.
There we go.
Now to setup a time and date.
Hey decoy ur like the best blanka online right…hmm I think it was ur name that was mentioned but I’m not sure?
I want to see this. Make it happen! :nunchuck: