Raida? Not as far as Honda’s U1 or Meat Squasher but still a good meterless corner carry and can come from a hit confirm.
I consider Abel a rushdown character and not a true “grappler”.
Fair enough, Hakan is a lot closer to a true grappler though and his dash is most certainly better than Hugo’s. Even without the ability to cancel it with normals oiled hakan’s is faster and I believe just as far. Even Dry Hakan’s is probably almost equal to Hugo’s. Both are 20F and Dry Hakan’s while likely shorter distance is still ‘ok’ at 1.05 (same as Sakura)
I think the thing that makes Hugo’s dash “seem” better is the animation; that forward leap he does makes it seem like it’s faster/goes further than it actually does.
Poison would be solid mid to mid-high if she had a reliable and maybe a better walkspeed. She has few problems.
Ibuki U2 corner carries.
St.mk goes over cr.mk and will beat it at times. I was a little confused about that too. Usually when I play rose against sagat they’ll use st.mk to beat cr.mp.
You nerf that and then her backdash will be even better with the extra weight being gone.
To beat virtually every normal she has. Her slide is one of the few buttons that get past it, but Sagat can beat that on reaction or just block and punish. Its spacing dependent.
Because the top 10 are easier to identify but it’s really the top 5 which is the easiest to identify… after the 6th or 7th character it’s a giant mess…
Lets see here, according to the Japanese players there are 9 please ranked A or Above
S: Yun
AAA: Cammy, Fei Long
AA: Evil Ryu, Juri
A: Adon, C. Viper, Ibuki, Makoto
There are 20 characters in the C+ rank category or worse
C+: Sagat
C: Blanka, Chun-Li, Cody, Decapre, El Fuerte, Gen, Gouken, Guile, Guy, Oni, Poison, Ryu, Sakura
C-: E. Honda
D: Dan, Dee Jay, Elena, Hakan, Hugo, Rolento
For the B midtier there are only 15 characters… we could say these are high mid but they are midtier according to them nontheless
B: Abel, Akuma, Balrog, Dhalsim, Dudley, Ken, M. Bison, Rose, Rufus, Seth, T. Hawk, Vega, Yang, Zangief
I can see why some characters are in B for example; Yang/Dudley gets destroyed by Zangief and likely other grapplers. Zangief loses to Sagat/Oni pretty badly, Vega has issues with divekick characters, Bison still loses to Guile just as bad as he did in AE2012. Dhalsim has a ton of bad match ups etc…
However do Akuma, Ken, Rose and Rufus have any serious bad match ups like the characters I just mentioned?
I think Hakan is a seriously bad match up for rose… I mean he has answers for everything when he has oil. For poison she’s good on paper but I actually think she might end up C- with Honda once people figure her out.
Yun-Akuma is fucking awful in this version.
I completely forgot about that god awful match up
rufus actually has a lot of pretty bad MUs including shotos, yun, sagat, zangief, etc. None of these are cammy vs. blanka/gief vs. sagat status but Rufus only seems strong because of ricky/justin - he’s a top 20 char, maybe.
If usf4’s balance remains unpatched, dudley is a top 10 or top 12ish char (not top 5), huge damage/corner carry/stun/useful ultras/brain-dead playstyle. He still struggles vs. some chars but he can easily win any MU off one combo or reset.
Dudley’s style is hardly braindead. Vs a bunch of characters you need straight up reads to get your damage in. At least he gets a lot of reward for these guesses.
You don’t want to see how Rose-Hakan goes
Rose-Rufus is also pretty bad
Rose-Yun also
damn now you know the secret of her soul satellites…
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Is Fei Long really worth the 2nd - 3rd place? It seems that a wide array of characters can adopt the strategy of blocking and crouch teching all day long. At least Luffy and Bonchan made it look that easy while they dispatched the two best Fei Longs beside Mago in quick sucession. Bonchan in particular got both cornered and approached by Chicken Wing and he didn’t even sweat it.
I considered Abel more of a counter grappler. Anytime you could churn some butter he could, but his churn and burn wins. I’ve had my empty jump ultra countered by tornado throw a couple of times. Almost tornado threw my stick…
Has the whining about Rose really been that bad though? I haven’t really seen it, then again I don’t subject myself to the more scrubby environs if I can help it.