USF4 | Tier List Thread (updated October 2015)

He missed the kappa

And for the record im not talking about picking rose

I play chun her backdash and dash are better

Kappaaaaaaa

To beat her slide?

So are are you still joking? Ah. My head!

What I’m interested about now is why Bonchan thinks Poison is a powered up version of Rose (Pre-EVO 2014 Roundtable). Poison has an extremely better fireball game but I don’t see any other significant advantage. I feel everything else she has is even, slightly worse, or slightly better than Rose.

I’m guessing cause the average Rose just plays the fireball game and backdashes, which is exactly what the average Poison does too, and Poison has a superior fireball game.

I think Poison is pretty good and the Rose comparisons make sense. Poison and DeCapre are easily the best of the new characters.

Rolento and Elena are characters who are like functional but their gameplans aren’t very rewarding and they have clear weaknesses. They seem like mid-low tier to me right now.

Hugo is really hard to tier without doing a matchup chart because his matchups are so lopsided. But that reason is enough why you’ll never see a Hugo main win a big tournament, he still has a place as a counterpick though.

I there really anything Hugo does that other characters don’t do better; i.e. is there even a reason why he’d be a counter-pick?

He’s invulnerable during stun

Hugo has a pretty unique moveset.

he´s german

Hugo has the best dash of any grappler, has tons of armored moves for charging multiple Ultras per round, and has reeeedonkulously damaging combos. Pretty unique.

He’s also one of the best character to deal with character approaching from the air by far.

Depends on your definition of “grapplers”

Hakan’s dash is 18F when oiled and can be canceled. Abel has one of the farther dashes AND it’s 16F.

Hugo has the best corner carry in the game unquestionably, this is compared to ALL characters. Only ones who even come CLOSE are Fei, Makoto, Dudley, and Sakura and none of them can do a true corner to corner carry without spending a ton of resources and doing a combo that has a chance for failure. The highest reward from a command throw (ultra throw). The best ability to deal chip damage of all grapplers. The most rewarding anti air game of all grapplers barring ultras. The only grappler with a rewarding overhead. He also has probably the 2nd best focus attack of all grapplers after oiled Hakan.

And not Rog? Or are we talking about characters that aren’t dependent on ultra to do so?

only moves i know that are auto corner carries are meat squasher and honda u1.

SEIYAA!

Sure Rog has good corner carry on a move available once per round. I don’t consider that to be AS good as the options Fei/Makoto/Dudley/Sakura/Hugo have as these are always or almost always available. Cody’s super carries corner to corner too but I don’t count it as him having good corner carry because it’s a limited situation. It’s like how you don’t claim Chun Li has the best damage in the game just because she has an infinite vs Abel and crazy loops vs a few others. It’s situational.

I FEEL like there is 1 more but I can’t think of it.

There is Abel’s super auto corner carries… and then auto mid screen carries after :wink:

Rose’s LP and MP ALMOST carries to the corner too :x

NERF! :o

Only thing that needs nerfing is her fake tits.

Rose’s U2 has corner carry. Once she activates it she backs you into the corner

I got an awesome setup on Hugo with Sakura.
Stunned him.
Got hyped.
Forgot about his weird stun animation.
Missed my setup.
Still won the game but lost the moral victory.
-_-

Bison has the best corner carry on people that just sit there and take it, then cry about scissors pressure.