USF4 | Tier List Thread (updated October 2015)

I think a max range ball may make the TU whiff. That said, they’re like -8 on block; you can probably just kara TU for free

The only thing Sagat can do is reversal HK Super.

Haven’t seen much of the matchup but in theory EX Spiral from Decapre should give Akuma some serious problems.

was that a new buff

Akuma still top tier.
Source: Tokido
Reason: I the use the cheapest stuff in the game.
Kappa

On a side note, I wanna see T Hawk in people’s top 10. The YouTube comments are hilarious enough for me to pick him up. Itazan is officially Japan’s most hated player.

Akuma is still good but I personally place him a few spots lower because he has picked up some bad match ups.

what youtube comments? and ive been pretty impressed with T Hawk. how good is he really

T Hawk should die.
T Hawk players should die.
T Hawk is op.
T Hawk takes no skill.
I had to mute the video because of condor spire.
Only Scrubs pick T Hawk.
I’m sick of T Hawk.
Capcom ruined this game making T Hawk brain dead.
So nice seeing T Hawk lose a match.
T Hawk is cheap
Etc.

There’s an encyclopedia of cries.

I don’t see how the Condor Spire Buffs change any of the matchups THawk already lost previously. It’s not hard to reaction punish spire with a jab or DP afterall(30frames on whiff). You can still zone him out fairly hard with a lot of characters i.e Vega and Sagat. Delayed Wakeup was a huge nerf to his LP Command Grab derp setups too.

Now if max range crMK linked into anything he’d be more of a real threat. But as of now I don’t think he’s past mid tier, he still loses the same matchups he did in AE, only does better in the matchups he was even(won in).

Negative. Hawk is indeed a hell of a lot stronger, although I will agree that bad players don’t know how to punish the spire. If that gets nerfed it would be a travesty for hawk players.

Also mike on the " roll" thing, punishing something online is vastly different to off. To this day I still have problems punishing blank a balls with rekka and its not that hard.

Beat some guy 5-0 with 10 minute T. Hawk and he said “Good T. Hawk, better than your Oni”. Wtf? That’s not the reaction I wanted you stupid non hate mail sending scrub.

I’m wondering if Hugo will move up the tier list when more people start using walk up U1. It’s quite easy to do and it’s a strong tool. Kinda useless in matches where he can’t get in though.

He will either move up. Or we will be considered good, and they’ll be in denial. Kinda like Cammy players for the first half of AE2012, then she was top tier. Kappa

Or Yun players for the whole of AE2012.

What makes hugo’s 720 easier?

He has 8 prejump frames as opposed to the standard 4. 6 for grapplers. Well… Gief and Hawk. 3 for Dhalsim. 5 for Hakans back and neutral.

The input is also easy when you take into account the shortcuts. I use HCF, UF, HCB + 3P

Doesn’t this mean he can’t jump out of a large number of Ultras? Like Dudley’s U1? He basically has to eat the chip damage.

It is a pretty big problem. Lol

with great power comes great problembilities… or something like that #kappa

I think its a fair trade. Easier standing 720s harder to jump out. plus it fits the character of that huge lummox.

#devilsadvocatethatisserious

DeeJay vs Elena is retarded. She can already get around fireball zoning, out footsie but her hurtbox takes the cake. It’s atleast 7-3 Elena