USF4 | Stream Commentary Thread

Oh ok.

Certainly, they are not that common, but they are still clearly bad matchups where the LP GH nerf directly affected Gief’s gameplan (punishing Condor Dive with MP GH is much more space dependant and may hit grounded which means that you’re -6 on Hawk’s face, whereas vs Hakan you cannot punish oil ups reliably anymore). I’m also still yet to hear about which matchup was “a problem” thanks to LP GH being fast and safe on hit.

Now, I don’t really understand why Gief and Hawk were a “big problem” because of LP GH and LP Spire which made them get nerfed in a couple of months after they got nerfed (st.MP’s hurtbox, SPD range which took out some punishes, etc…) in exchange of their best buffs since they got into the game when you have E.Ryu who in exchange of 150 health (some fierces or 2 medium attacks) gets more damage from further ranges with better buttons, a really good wakeup, a divekick, safe pressure that leads to a lot of damage in exchange of meter which he creates quickly, or Yun who gets to play safely creating meter out of nothing with really good mixups, frame traps, and the threat of red focus for 3 meters instead of 4.

But then again it’s year 7 and people still complain about grapplers so meh.

Not gonna lie, I don’t even watch my meter as Yun. Unless I’m on Pixel health for obvious reasons.

So the Fall Classic is taking place in Raleigh. Heard a rumor that it was switched to Charlotte a few months ago.

Nemo 61-36 Latif
They played 5 set.
1st set Nemo 15-14
2nd set Nemo 15-7
3rd set Nemo 15-3
4th set Nemo 15-10
5th set Latif 2-1

If Tampa Bison can win a tournament, it’s this one.
Hope he got it in him.

apparently you haven’t heard of guile vs. Bison. it’s bad

Snake made Guile vs Gief look bad.

Snake figured out how to beat Dieminion again, nice.

Also Dieminion made Elena vs Guile look bad.

What makes Bison vs Guile so bad?
No way around booms+floaty jump-arc and no overhead?

That and Guile has good footsies to counter Bison’s footsie game which is where he gets damage from.

also he doesn’t get huge offensive momentum when he hits guile. other characters have similar problems vs. guile, but they can put him in the blender on any clean hit, bison doesn’t have that going for him.

Bison has been getting countered by guile since Day one its ironic cause story wise they hate each other lol

edit

What makes Bison Guile so bad? 2 buttons win a match.

That guy player was really strong, I’m impressed. Is he the same dude Daigo said was the best guy in the world a few years back?

You mean the Guy who beat Infiltration on the front page?
Goddamn the commentary on that match…

If you’re talking about Big Bird then no, iirc Daigo said that about Nox2’s Guy. They are both from the middle east though.

Yeah the “commentary” made me cringe

Cool thanks. Don’t think I’ve ever seen Nox footage.

I really liked this Big Bird dude gameplay. Last time I was impressed with a Guy was I believe Xiao Hai messing with him (actually it was Dakou).

Watch the EVO pools.
There was a Guy player from Japan that was really good but unfortunately ran into Daigo at one point.
That dude was amazing.

Kiyotea: Godlike A3 Guy from Japan who is great in SF4 as well, iirc he made top 32 at EVO this year, or somewhere close to it.
Nox: Player from Kuwait who Daigo said was the best Guy back around the AE days, although I haven’t seen or heard from him really since then.
Big Bird: Player from around the Saudi area, always performs well in middle eastern tourneys and got I think 2nd place to Dieminion in the last big tourney in that area. This is the guy who beat Infiltration last week.