No focus attack was in the last threads rules. All he has to do is fix the rules here to include no focus attacks.
Also in the last thread, starting combos charged fireballs shouldnt have been allowed. After a normal sure, but in the beginning of one is a borderline setup.
3 bar
512 Dudley c.HP, s.HK xx EX Machinegun Blow, LK Duck Straight, EX Duck Straight x2, LP Machinegun Blow.
4 bar
546 Dudley c.HP, s.HK xx MK Duck Upper xx Rocket Upper
So one question. I know based on the rules Juri should not be able to have a fuhajin stored as “no stores, no charged fireball etc” but i feel like having 1 lk store is pretty common for juri during corner pressure. Would you be willing to make an exception for that or are the rules ironclad? If not its no big deal. Just curious before i start my combo search.
Also under counter hit i saw
[347] Makoto [(ch) Level 3 HP Hayate, st.HP xx Level 2 MP Hayate]
(Midscreen - counter hit - no jump in - no super/ex/ultra at start)
While i also see that the corner combo rules are
(Corner - no counter hit - no jump in - no super/ex/ultra meter at start)
Rules seem the same
So to argue in favor of my point i feel like juri having one fireball stored is ok but im not the one making the list so ill comply with your ruling. [Honestly if lvl 3 hayate is ok i would argue 2 fireballs for juri should be ok as well as i can think of alot of real match situation where i can charge 2 fireballs on a cornered opponent after a KD]
Meterless
270 Guile clb.HK, cl.MP xx LP Sonic Boom, walk F.HP
266 Yun c.MP, c.MP, s.MP xx HK Up Kicks
245 Sagat cl.MP xx HK Tiger Knee
243 Rose cl.MK, c.LK, c.MP xx LK Soul Spiral
226 Rufus cl.LK, cl.HP xx HP Galactic Tornado
226 Dhalsim db. HP, db.HP, c.MK
Corner
361 Guile clb.HK, cl.MP xx LP Sonic Boom, df.hk, HK Flash Kick
288 Yun MP Palm, cl.MK, MP Lunge Punch
286 Rufus s.HK, f.HP, MP Snake Strike
278 Rose c.HP xx HP Soul Reflect, HP Soul Throw
240 Sagat Meterless
226 Dhalsim Meterless
Counter Hit
296 Rufus c.MP, cl.HP xx HP Galactic Tornado
296 Sagat c.MP, s.HK xx HK Tiger Knee
295 Guile Meterless
281 Yun Meterless
278 Rose cl.MK, c.HP xx Soul Spiral
228 Dhalsim b.MP xx MP Yoga Flame
1 bar
364 Yun EX Palm, LP shoulder, HP lunge punch
290 Guile df.HK, EX Flash Kick
262 Rufus s.HK, s.HK, EX Messiah Kick
260 Sagat s.HK xx Angry Scar, HP Tiger Uppercut
257 Rose Meterless But Ex Spiral
226 Dhalsim Meterless
2 Bar
364 Yun 1 Bar
361 Guile clb.HK, cl.MP xx LP Sonic Boom FADC, df.HK, HK Flash Kick
358 Knife Cody c.HP, c.LK xx HP Criminal Upper FADC, c.LP, cl.MP, c.HP xx HP Criminal Upper
340 Rose cl.MK, c.MP xx LP Soul Spark FADC, c.HP xx Soul Spiral
321 Sagat cl.MP xx LK Tiger Shot FADC, s.HK xx HK Tiger Knee
262 Rufus 1 Bar
226 Dhalsim Meterless
3 bar
389 Sagat cl.MP xx HK Tiger Knee RFADC, cl.MP xx HK Tiger Knee
385 Guile 2 bar but ex Flash Kick
375 Rufus cl.HK xx EX RFADC, Falcon Kick, cl.HP xx HP Galactic Tornado
371 Yun cl.HP xx LP Shoulder RFDC, cl.MK, LP Shoulder, HP Lunge Punch
369 Rose cl.MK, c.MP xx LP Soul Spark FADC, c.HP xx HP Soul Reflect, EX Soul Spiral
226 Dhalsim Meterless
4 bar
550 Dhalsim HP Yoga Flame xx Yoga Inferno, b.MK
484 Guile cl.HP xx HK Flash Kick xx Double Flash Kick
475 Sagat cl.MP xx HK Tiger Knee xx Tiger Genocide
450 Rose c.HP xx Soul Spiral xx Aura Soul Spark
444 Rufus s.HK, s.HK, Spectacle Romance
Talked about this in the last thread.
Ended up agreeing on allowing charged moves as long as they didnt require a second input. Things like Gouken getting fully charged hadokens at the start of combos were okay.
Juri’s stored fireball counts as a sepeate move. It’s not allowed. In the max damage and stun combos it is though. Same goes for Sagat having stored angry scar, stored bingo, or Rog final TAP.
gotcha bummer but i gotcha 
Also taken from the OP
yea i saw that. I was hoping juri could have an exception due to being the only char that can store and move around instead of the traditional spaced charged fireball into dash nonsense.
I expected it to not be allowed but you cant hate me for trying lol.
@Thirtyfour
I can beat some of those combos 
Yun counterhit: crMP - clsMK - LP Shoulder - HP Lunge punch = 306
Rose Counterhit: closeHK - crHP - Spiral = 303
Dhalsim 2bar: B+HP - LP Yoga Fire - Level 2 EX Focus (Crumple hit) - HP Yoga Flame = 261
Sagat meterless: close MK - crLP - HP Tiger Uppercut = 246
why is no one using the formatting in the OP?
just gives him more work to do -_-
Habit, that’s how I always type out combos and damage.
Typing from mobile. I mostly give the wrong name of moves and don’t bracket the combos. Besides that though there’s not much of anything to edit.
Had the Yun coubterhit combo but it didn’t work midscreen vs most of the cast.
Sagat 1 damage lol touche.
Didn’t kow. coroseukd link from cl.HK
Forgot Dhalsim could yogaflame on crumpled opponents.
Pretty sure we could beat the dhalsim corner combo.
Something like back mp xx MP yoga flame, back HK
Everyone I tested Yun’s crMP - clsMK worked. Ryu/Sagat/Rose/Viper all worked
Not allowing Juri fireball or Fuerte Q-bomb seems wrong. Both of them have one charged pretty much whenever they want to.
Ok so seeing how almost EVERYONE is discussing what are setups and what aren’t and what you can do and what you can I’ll try to rethink about them (I won’t change almost anything) and between tomorrow and the next day after tomorrow I’ll tell you guys what I consider OK and what I don’t
This combo doesn’t work on that many characters actually. A handful of character the crMP - HK Ruffian is blocked and on a bunch of the cast it doesn’t give enough time for the HK Ruffian to recover enough to combo to MK Ruffian. Ryu is actually one of the few it DOES work on. crMP - HK Ruffian blocked is far less common an issue though. I’d say sHP - crMP - HK Ruffian - HK Ruffian is probably the most consistent.
1bar
[326] Cody w/ Knife [F+HK, EX Ruffian Kick, s.HP]
2 Lights
[220] Cody [clsLP xx clsLP, crMP xx HP Criminal Upper]
[242] Cody w/Knife [sLP, sLP, crLK xx LP Criminal Upper, crMP] (Doesn’t work on everyone but works on most of the cast I’d say)
4 bars
[520] Cody w/knife [crHP, crHP xx Super]
Elf’s Q Bomb is allowed. Why wouldn’t it be?
It’s chargeable during combos and even if it wasn’t it counts as one special move, not two like Juri’s store and release fireball.
Just post the Juri combos she does mid tier damage without stored fireballs. Stop complaining over the rules just because your character doesn’t benefit from them.
You could probably post stored and unstored Juri combos by the way. Maybe. Unoiled Hakan is inevitable, and Knife Cody is kind of on the same page as stored Juri.
Juri - all performed on ryu unless otherwise stated
[Meterless]
[242] Juri [cl.LP, cr.HK xx HK Senpusha]
*[Meterless with LK Store]
[282] Juri [LK Fuhajin Store, cl.MP xx LK Fuhajin Release,s.MP xx HK Senpusha]
[Corner]
[242] Juri [cl.LP, cr.HP xx HK Senpusha]
*[Corner with LK Store]
[312] Juri [LK Fuhajin Store, cr.HP xx LK Fuhajin Release, s.MP xx HK Pinwheel]
*[Corner with LK and MK Store]
[367] Juri [LK Fuhajin Store, MK Fuhajin Store, cr.HP xx LK Fuhajin Release, s.MP xx MK Fuhajin Release, st.MP xx HK Pinwheel]
[Counter Hit]
[265] Juri [cr.HP xx HK Senpusha]
*[Counter Hit with LK Store]
[300] Juri [LK Fuhajin Store, cl.MP xx LK Fuhajin Release, s.MP xx HK Senpusha]
[1 Bar]
[280] Juri [cr.HP xx EX Senpusha]
*[1 Bar with LK Store]
[310] Juri [LK Fuhajin Store, cl.MP xx LK Fuhajin Release, s.MP xx EX Senpusha]
[2 Bar]
[358] Juri [cr.HP xx HK Senpusha (2 hits) xx FADC, cl.LP, cr.HP xx HK Senpusha]
*[2 Bar with LK Store]
[389] Juri [LK Fuhajin Store, cr.HP xx HK Senpusha (2 hits) xx FADC, cl.MP xx LK Fuhajin Release, s.MP xx HK Senpusha]
[3 bar]
[382] Juri [cr.HP xx HK Senpusha (2 hits) xx FADC, cl.LP, cr.HP xx EX Senpusha]
*[3 Bar with LK Store]
[409] Juri [LK Fuhajin Store, cr.HP xx HK Senpusha (2 hits) xx FADC, cl.MP xx LK Fuhajin Release, st.MP xx EX Senpusha]
[4 bar]
[470] Juri [cl.HP xx LK Super]
[Ultra]
[480] Juri [Ultra 2 - Kaisen Dankairaku]
[MAXIMUM DAMAGE SUPER DELUXE!]
[684] Juri [LK Store, MK Store, Activate Feng Shui Engine, (ch) s.HK ~ s.HP xx LK Fuhajin Release, s.HP ~ s.HK xx MK Fuhajin Release, s.MP ~ s.HK ~ s.HP xx HK Senpusha (2 hits) xx FADC, cl.LP ~ cl.LK ~ cr.MP ~ s.MK (2 hits) ~ s.HK (2 hits) ~ s.HP xx HK Senpusha (2 hits) xx FADC, cl.LP ~ cl.LK ~ cr.MP ~ s.MK (2 hits) ~ s.HK (2 hits) ~ s.HP xx HK Senpusha] (Corner, Character Specific: Sagat, Spacing Specific)
[MAXIMUM STUN HYPER SPECIAL!]
[780] Juri [LK Fuhajin Store, MK Fuhajin Store, nj.HK, cr.HP xx LK Fuhajin Release, s.MP xx MK Fuhajin Release, cr.HP xx HK Senpusha (2 hits) xx FADC, cl.LP, cr.HP xx HK Senpusha (2 hits) xx FADC, cl.LP, cr.HP xx HK Senpusha] (Corner, Wide Characters)
[2 Bars counter hit]
[383] Juri [cr.HP xx HK Senpusha (2 hits) xx FADC, cl.LP, cr.HP xx HK Senpusha]
*[2 Bars counter hit with LK Store]
[414] Juri [LK Fuhajin Store, cr.HP xx HK Senpusha (2 hits) xx FADC, cl.mp xx LK Fuhajin Release, st.MP xx HK Senpusha]
[2 Light attacks]
[224] Juri [cl.LK, cl.LK, s.LP, s.MP xx HK Senpusha]
2 Lights
244 Dudley s.LP, s.LK>MK, s.HK xx Hp Jet Upper
Counter hit 2 bar
539 Dudley f.MK, c.HP, s.HK xx MK Duck Upper FADC, s.LP, s.HK xx LP Jet Upper, EX Duck Upper, MK Duck straight, LP Machinegun Blow (corner carry, builds meter for ex duck upper)
Someone said earlier that Q-bomb falls in the same category as other setups so I just thought it wasn’t allowed, which seemed weird. I was also going to suggest just posting combos with Fuhajin and without Fuhajin. I mean, why not, this is about exporing damages.
Also, I’ve already contributed. I don’t even play Juri, I simply questioned the rules regarding her Fuhajin. If that’s complaining to you then whatevs.
p.s. I think Hakan might be able to break more in the 2-4 bar categories using s.mp, (s.lk), f+lk FADC s.mp… stuffs but I can’t test it because my stick is acting up. Just a heads up if someone wants to try how much it’s worth.