us using jap sticks

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when did usa learn how good the japanese sanwas were? first time they played was daigo vs valle n 98 which daigo had his own stick did valle try it out and learn right then the difference it had? or was it years later cause i never even heard of japanese sticks till tekken 5 in 2004 i intentionally hated how responsive it was but learnt to like it

A while back around SFIV’s launch, companies like Mad Catz started releasing Sanwa sticks. Since then most of us have seen the light.

I could write my own essay on how much better Sanwa is Vs U.S/Happ style. I was skeptical as Happ is what i grew up with but, i was sold after just a few hours of playing on one of those new japanese style sticks. Never looked back.

Kinda sad to think back after all those years of playing on crappy U.S style parts and not realizing just how awful they really were. Just thinking about how heavy the stick springs are, you really had to put some muscle into complex movements.

MVC2 and dash-heavy games for example. I realize button dashing is always best but, i always preferred to dash with the stick. Feels more natural. However, the chunky-ass springs in the Happ basically FORCED you to get comfortable with button dashing. Sanwa has the right idea. Their springs are juuuust strong enough to reliably return to center everytime, and without accidental direction inputs but, light enough not to hinder/resist your movements. Much better. Stick dashing is no longer a pain in the ass.

Edit: For the record, i once took apart my happ competition and chopped the spring in half to lighten movement. It was still a shitload stronger than a stock Sanwa JLF.

I’ve literrally only touched a happ( or what i thought was a happ) once. My first experience with an arcade stick was a JLF. I have wondered what it is like to play with an il stick or happ but i don’t imaginge it to be anything more than a workout. I think core a gaming made a video where they said it was just increasinglly hard to buy american and european parts so many people just moved over to sanwa. I actually went in search for an american wooden style arcade stick so that i could try out some of the parts but i could only ever find dirty and old custom sticks. like an old used MAS on ebay. I think games like street fighter 4 on vewlix as well as the popularity of candy cabs is why i couldn’t find a madcatz style stick with american parts. I havent been in the “scene” long enough to been playing street fighter II in arcades or to ever touch a happ but thats my 2 cents.

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way to bait

also: OP sucks JP dicks

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I’ve literrally only touched a happ( or what i thought was a happ) once. My first experience with an arcade stick was a JLF. I have wondered what it is like to play with an il stick or happ but i don’t imaginge it to be anything more than a workout. I think core a gaming made a video where they said it was just increasinglly hard to buy american and european parts so many people just moved over to sanwa. I actually went in search for an american wooden style arcade stick so that i could try out some of the parts but i could only ever find dirty and old custom sticks. like an old used MAS on ebay. I think games like street fighter 4 on vewlix as well as the popularity of candy cabs is why i couldn’t find a madcatz style stick with american parts. I havent been in the “scene” long enough to been playing street fighter II in arcades or to ever touch a happ but thats my 2 cents.

Imagine a Sanwa with a much thicker stick, AKA: the “bat-top” handle. Along with a spring that’s 8-10 times as strong. Strong enough to where you CANNOT merely use your fingers or wrist to quick “-> ->” dash, but you actually have to put in some forearm muscle into it.

That’s U.S Happ/IL style.

Also you know the springy things commonly placed near the bottom of doors in bathroom/bedrooms to keep the door from hitting the wall when opened all the way? And if you’ve ever accidentally bumped one with your foot, the LOUD sound it makes as it springs back? That was kinda how the Happ springs sounded if you moved the stick all the way in one direction, and just let it go, as it went back to center.

“brrruuunnnnnng!!!” lol.

The buttons were fine though. I always used Happ “Competition” buttons when i still built U.S sticks. They seem to nicely mimic the “convex” japanese style. Honestly, i’d be fine with either Happ or Sanwa when it comes to the buttons. Happ buttons were definitely louder though as they used those “mechanical” cherry switches but, the feeling of hitting the switch along with the longer travel involved was more satisfying. Sanwa has very short/quick travel when pressing them.

Although like all U.S style parts, those Competition buttons were also much longer/chunkier than their japanese counterparts.