US student is sentenced to 15 years hard labor in North Korea for trying to steal a political banner

Patriarchy.

I dont know if any femcunts throw out that reasoning that its really real…But something tells me someone must have said it before.

The right and wrong issue was solved years ago.

There is morality, and then there are universal ethics.

Jailing somebody for 15 years over a poster is fucking absurd and citing culture isn’t a good justification.

If that’s the case, women should stop crying about being stoned to death after rape in the middle east, at least their virtues is preserved.

And people like Eric Gardner should have yielded and not been sellkng cigarettes.

See how fucking retarded the argument for cultural relevance is?

This nigga shouldn’t even be complaining though, they’re just helping him power level to 99 mining! Then he can mine that sweet, sweet rune ore.

Because you fund minority industry that isn’t sanctioned, that’s why.

The question wasn’t why it’s illegal. The question was why does it carry a stricter punishment.

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so was it wrong for him to steal the poster? yes or no

I don’t think fart is condoning it, it’s more that he’s just saying that “da guv’mnt” doesn’t give a shit about some random bitch, but they DO care that funds aren’t going into taxes or their pockets so they’re going to punish people that are taking those funds away from them. However, because of the privatized prison system, mixed in with social stigma of drugs which also leads into potentially losing supports from puritanical morons, they don’t want to do the smart thing which would be to legalize, tax, and regulate all drugs to get huge amounts of tax revenue (I.E. Colorado having a surplus of tax money from legalizing weed to the point of not knowing what to do with the funds.) So that leads to drug criminals facing much tougher charges cause the system couldn’t give less of a shit that a random bitch got booty warrior’d after walking home late at night.

Yes it matters. With that much weed you might be selling it, which is illegal as fuck. You might disagree with it but hey it is the law and if you choose to break it you choose to deal with the consequences.

Again, I know both things are illegal… Rape and possessing weed.

But why should destroying someones life yield a lighter punishment than the assumption that you may be selling a hallucinogen?
Remember, we are discussing “does the punishment fit the crime” thing here.

And ya, the answer is “money” like RocketUppercut said. Which is dumb. But then we have no right to make fun of NK and their propaganda posters which are important to controlling their populace.

He’s lucky he didn’t get death.

i thought we were discussing how stupid ol otto was for stealing a poster

Well we know he is stupid.
But some dudes in here are talking about moral relativism and now NK is overreacting, when every place in the world has stupid rules that hurt the public. So we shouldn’t judge.

Cultural Relativism is important in anthropology because it points out the flaw that cultural evolutionism is ethnocentric, and a measure of progress based on the assumption that one’s own cultural is more valuable than another. Instead, each culture should be understood based on it’s own unique history. Historical Particularism is closely tied to Cultural Relativism (both theories founded by Franz Boas), and they are extremely important when doing archeological research or ethnographic research because under this framework all bias should be removed and we can look at a particular culture independently, not under the idea that every culture is on a path governed by universal laws. Instead, each culture has it’s unique values shaped by environmental, psychological, and historical factors.

That said, Cultural Relativism has its flaws, mainly the biggest one being that it contradicts itself by saying that no truths are absolute, which is an absolute statement in and of itself. But more importantly, when people try to use Cultural Relativism for social justice things get really messy because it justifies some pretty horrible shit, and it wasn’t designed to do that. Doing that makes it become advocacy, which isn’t anthropology.

and most of americas rules are based on religion

I think we are getting away from the fact that this is a show of power, and that the US should punish them for that.
Rivers of blood.
Fire raining from the sky!
Dogs and cats living together!
Mass hysteria!

I’ve been trying to remember the last time I heard the name Otto and remembered:

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I’m genuinely curious about this. All the news I can find on it is just statements made by him while in custody. That’s confirmation of nothing other than he’s in custody.

There is a video of him stealing it.

Warning its NorthKorean HD

That still doesn’t mean a lot, honestly. It’s amazing what you can get someone to do under pain of death.

The bright side is that he doesn’t have to worry about inmates name Nigg to beat his ass…Also, his asshole wont get stretch too badly w/ majority micro penis population.

Cultural Relativism is important in anthropology because it points out the flaw that cultural evolutionism is ethnocentric, and a measure of progress based on the assumption that one’s own cultural is more valuable than another. Instead, each culture should be understood based on it’s own unique history. Historical Particularism is closely tied to Cultural Relativism (both theories founded by Franz Boas), and they are extremely important when doing archeological research or ethnographic research because under this framework all bias should be removed and we can look at a particular culture independently, not under the idea that every culture is on a path governed by universal laws. Instead, each culture has it’s unique values shaped by environmental, psychological, and historical factors.

That said, Cultural Relativism has its flaws, mainly the biggest one being that it contradicts itself by saying that no truths are absolute, which is an absolute statement in and of itself. But more importantly, when people try to use Cultural Relativism for social justice things get really messy because it justifies some pretty horrible shit, and it wasn’t designed to do that. Doing that makes it become advocacy, which isn’t anthropology.
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I’ve heard that argument but I can’t buy it, the entire culture of north korea was manufactured only 60 years ago, there isn’t any historical or cultural relevance that can apply here, and you can’t apply old korean customs to north because communist countries have always seeked to destroy any remenant of the culture that existed before it.

If we where talking about a newly discovered tribe in which they still sacrificed dudes to make the sun rise in this age, sure, i would accept cultural relativism. Hell, i’d accept it for any culture that has for the most part been isolated from the world and not engange with it, or when studying culture at least 2 generations apart. But North Korea doesn’t fall under that category. Under cultural relativism, you can justify their concentration camps

TL;DR, any society that considers itself modern or wants to compete at a global level needs to understand that some things are universally bad, regardless of what your god or government tells you to do.