**Updated 5/17** ONE thread about performing and application of the RSF/Punch Loop

Watch the vid that brainz posted at the end of the vid thread, you’ll see what I mean, he does something similar except he skips the low short.

K. also, i can get 4-5 rsf hits on average but i am missing a key point. getting the opportunity to rsf. focus crumple sure, and maybe a good j.Fp.

Could another way to just bait them with fake runs and get them in there recovery?

Daipan loop into C. MK loop I get it.

I don’t see how its safe versus DPs but I seem to have gotten the hang of it.

Well if they are mashing dp then after the last low MK they’ll miss you unless you tried a run in throw or a splash. So people just won’t ever mash dp if they know you’re doing this whereas when you end with the slide they really have nothing to lose. You get (IMO) just as good if not better mixups off of the low MK than you do off of the run slide. And it’ll hit everyone, unlike the slide that slides right through half the cast crouching and 3 or 4 people regardless.

Hmmmm… RSF -> run stop crMK xx run xx stop Shower kick -> lp blockstring -> crMK -> mixup?

ive been ending my rsf with something else then slide for quite some time now.
it gives you so many new possibilities.

my favourite is ending it with shower kick reset against charge characters because they will mostly crouch block while you rsf them :slight_smile:

so I’ve fully learned how to RSF properly and all I can say is Damn…

Before I was winning my matchups with good excellent mixup but now with rsf, it’s just alot easier to work around with in matches.
I guess I could never do it before because I was just learning stick and had an old modded hori stick to hone my stick skills but now that my TE stick, I was able to properly execute.

Online rsf is too hard to time but still possible, but I just came back from a local arcade and went on a 21 win streak doing 5 or 6 loops. Lag does make a difference I guess is what I’m trying to say.

I’m going to have to end at 3 hits + slide for now. The other day my wrist started hurting like hell after practising RSF and it’s still not healed. Carpal tunnel apparently. I can still play charge characters at the moment, but won’t be able to do funky stuff like RSF for a while.

My wrist has never hurt that bad, guess im not practicing hard enough :X

Man I just picked up SF4 and ElF. Damn. Gotta have skills to pay the bills with this guy. I’m tryin the loop and I keep getting the damn Hard punch throw? Suggestions?

I suggest reading a thread dedicated to teaching you how do to the combo properly before asking how to do the combo properly.

Nah, my execution is rather crude. Yours is probably just a lot more efficient.

Hi, I’m still hoping for some feedback on my post back from March. I think it may have been just hidden in the pile of posts, or been mistaken as a post asking for help on performing the RSF.

I don’t have trouble with RSF execution, but I have a trouble with RSF <b>application</b> in a match.

I haven’t been able to find any effective ways to land it other than focus crumple, and I don’t seem to land too many of those.

I THINK I have trouble knowing how to utilize focus attack properly, any help on this would be appreciated.

@windbreaka: I am not an expert on RSF, I hope someone here can help more. But here are a few ideas that I hope can help a bit:

  • One major way is baiting. For example, you would bait shotos to do an uppercut, and then you would immediately follow with FA and RSF. Safe tortilla works great in setting up for it, as you would either catch the uppercut, or better yet, land right behind it to punish with FA into RSF.

  • Try to see what each character has in terms of tools, and see which ones that are slow on recovery and can be punished if whiffed/blocked. Once you know that, try to let them commit to these moves by baiting.

  • Don’t make landing RSF as your sole purpose in the match, otherwise you fall in the trap of being too predictable. If you see top players like TKD, they sometimes don’t try too much to set up for it and can have some full matches without landing one. But once they do get a chance, they don’t hold back :slight_smile:

  • Another way to go for RSF is not through FA, but crossup j.FP. While you do your wakeup shenanigens, one trick is to run back, stop, and then neutral jump forward to cross them up with FP, and it lands mostly because it is not a very expected option. So if it connects, you can follow it up instantly with cl.FP into RSF. This works especially well against characters with large hitboxes.

If you get good at timing your low HK slide on the opponent’s wake up, then you’ll be at + a shitton of frames and can press stand FP there and counterhit anything that the opponent presses. Gives you a really juicy rsf that starts off a counterhit, but only works well on characters that you can rsf crouching and that don’t have an easy reversal to beat your slide.

Create the opportunity or let them screwup. When you get a knockdown setup a crossup fierce and get that rsf.

After taking a 2-3 month break from sf4 I went to the arcade tonight.
My RSF results were astounding! :amazed:

I normally did 6 hits of rsf into slide then hit them with a tortilla for a stun.

Today I was able to do 8 as if it were 2 or 3.

after stun I was able to get 11+ hits and I did it about 6 or 7 times!!!

at first I was having trouble doing 3, about an hour later it was nothing to me.

by the end of the night I had about 7-8 people just watching amazed by my RSF.

sooo! i play on my xbox and i usually dont have any issues bustin out the loop, both fierce and cr mk. now whenever i go and i play on a ps3 and just recently tryd an arcade cabinet i cant loop for shit!! they say xbox is fast, so how much should i slow down for both ps3 and cabinet? i never get to sit there and try things out cause everyones always so set on actually playing the match. so the times i do get to try it i either fail or i just end up keepin em short and sweet. felt like i press fierce too fast or something but i cant sit there and experiment, no time cause they all wanna win

Question for RSFing stick users, do you guys prefer square gate or 8-way gate? I use a square gate and usually can do 5-6 hits before I mess up, most of the time because I fudged the df motion. I’ve only been using a stick for a few months and practice is always a good remedy, but just wondering what some of you guys use.

I can do rsf but not consistently, it seems the timing is really strict for the 3rd hit. Any advice?