Yes, some poster don’t seem to take into account that, we also can lose character’s off of one hit.
Also, it is not like we just go into training mode and only practice combos. -____-
To be honest, if I were a casual gamer who didn’t understand fighting games I’d hate this fucking game with a passion as soon as I played someone who knew how to play it. “I just wanted to play wolverine and this guy just kept hitting me until he died. I didn’t even get to play!”
First off you cannot compare streetfighter and marvel.
Street fighter is a harder game technically speaking
Now begginners guide?
Idk
You know what I did? I played the trials
Tripping over learning 3 characters?
Everything is LMHS MMHS
Literally
Now if you wanna get good at the game go into training mode grab some basic characters and go at it
There’s rules to everything that happens in marvel and its actually pretty deep once you account for xfactor gaurd cancels and meter building and all of that
One more thing you have to learn the lingo
Otg
Tridash
Plinks
Frame data
If you don’t know the rules of the game how are you suppose to understand anything???
Just ask noobs!!!
I used to play smash and bloody roar and energizts and all these fighters with my friends and they used to body me
I got mv3 and asked away
Then got the brady guide and it layed down the foundation
If anyone has any questions I love talking bout marvel and ill be happy to help any of you guys 
what else are you going to practice training mode? you learn neutral from playing the game (preferably offline) against real people. if you getting killed off one hit, and this consistently happens to you, what does it matter whether you know your own TOD? your neutral game probably needs improvement. and you don’t learn neutral game in training mode.
also if you think SF4 is too hard because of links, play a different Street Fighter. SF2, SF3, CVS2, none of those games are link heavy. they will all teach you how to develop a strong neutral and footsie/zoning game.
new players don’t always have a clear understanding of why they lose. in almost every case their neutral game is what sucks.
Ok I’m going to tell you guys my way of doing it.
Pick a character you want to learn
In this case let’s say frank
Now I’m not going to run frank first because frank sucks until he’s level 3
So I need a cover assist and a assist that will help extend his combos.
So in the long run I ended up running rocket frank dante
Rocket with the log trap assist frank with his shopping cart and dante with jam session
Great team with dhc everywhere
Then again I built this team around frank
Everything happens for a reason in this game. The brady games guide tto umvc3 is awesome I recoomend that everyone buys it
When you’re comparing how two games work, then yes, you can compare them.
Unoptimal combos =/= learning a character.
Doing magic series all the time =/= learning a character.
As a general message to people reading this thread: The game’s “noob unfriendliness” has NOTHING to do with lacking a tutorial. Don’t expect the game to spoonfeed you, if you want to learn how to play this game there are resources online to check. Besides, in-game tutorials tend to be lacking and would probably give you a false sense of security with you “knowing” how to play the game.
But the only thing similar about these two games is that their both 2d fighters which means they follow basic 2d fighter rules until you get down to the system mechanics
Bro you sound kinda douchey did you know that?
Anyway yea their un optimal combos but it give you a hint at how your character is sorta supposed to be use. If you decide to take that info and shove it up you ass instead of thinkin oh hey I see how that works let me try this that’s you as the players fault.
Again most characters are played as such not all but most then otg special
This is not including optimized combos
You wanna learn a char then grind in that training room then put what you trained to work against real players who advance gaurd when their suppose to and punish you for trying to chain again someone whose blocking correctly
Dyou gotta learn the fundementals first before any of the advance stuff comes in work on spacing and punishing the rest will come
I reccomend getting the bradygames guide to umvc3 from gamestop and read the whole intro
You’ll look at the game in a whole new light
Btw can you stop trollling and if not please leave me the fuck alone
The point of comparing them is to show how they work differently…
Uh, what? I’m just being straightforward, if that’s being like a douche to you then sorry.
You don’t get a feel for a character with magic series. Every character feels the same if you just do magic series. You try out their movement, seeing if they’re too fast for you, too slow, too weird, or just right. You use their specials to see what they do and how they can be used. You play around with normals. And so on.
Magic series combos are NOT fundamentals. Not even close. Fundamentals is knowing how to block, knowing how to move, knowing what’s the right time to use this move and what’s the wrong time, etc. Magic series teaches nothing except how to press buttons.
I’m not trolling, no need to be butthurt.
That’s cool bro
Anyway noobs go play the game how you want. Even though I help many players want to actually learn the game
You cannot give noobs all this info and expect them to understand it all which was why I suggested that it helped anyone I knew that was having trouble
That’s how they started
Your taking everything I’m saying out of context like a media consaultant
Oh well
Bye now
You cannot expect noobs to be be unable to understand anything except pressing buttons in order to do magic series combos. That’s insulting. My suggestions on trying out a character’s moves and learning about blocking is as basic as you can get when it gets to actual LEARNING about fighting games. Combos don’t help you learn a character. You learn the combos after you learn the character and the basics of whatever fighting game you happen to be playing?
How so, exactly? Please specifically point out where I took your words out of context.
It’s good that you want to help noobs find their way in this game, but I’m just saying, you aren’t giving them the correct advice.
?It is pretty evident why I lose I can’t get a hit, and all my characters die from one combo. Sure I would work on my nuetral game if I actually had a chance to play the fucking game.
I just ran a set online right now. A mixed bag of ranked and player matches. 100% of the matches I played a total of 7 people.
Two Morridoom teams, couldn’t get in all characters suffered from chip, happy birthday, or died from a combo trying to get in
Faced a zeromaycry team, and was LL central, only dooms missles saved me from getting Perfected.
Faced a godly Spencer/Wesker/Vergil Team where he was using Weskers assist to extend some long as TOD on me.
All that in an hour and a half pretty much sums up online play in this game.
Noob Unfriendly no arguing at this point.(Setting was set to SAME BTW.)
You know, sometimes there are lobbies that are labeled “beginners only”. You might find beginners there to try to implement something you learned in the lab.
Beginner lobbies are a great place to inflate your ego by TODing the poor scrubs who want to learn something.
I mean who wants to be challenged ALL the time. Just go in there, TOD, tea bag, taunt and beat them wit a joke team
while eating pizza.
Gotta love them beginner only lobbies.
Lol, please be joking, those are the worst! Most of the good players have the begginer label and body you send you hate mail for leaving.
Believe it or not ranked is the closest to my skill level, player matches and lobbies(that aren’t your friendslist) are pointless.
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nowadays its not unreasonable to expect a game to teach you how to play it. capcom just aint tryin to get them casual dollars hard enough imo.
jus sayin tho ~_~
oops 
i screwed that one up pretty good -_-
This game is both honestly…its noob friendly cause you can just do magic series and newbie stuff easily but learning the advance things in marvel is where the game is not friendly and the fact one mistake can cost you your whole team.
I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: Marvel is so easy that it’s hard.
It’s kind of funny how Capcom, in all of their efforts to make it easier for noobs to win, failed to realize that in doing so they also made it easier for noobs to lose.
I really don’t think I was ever a “noob” at this game. I literally got the original MvC3 a day before launch because the UPS man delivered it to me earlier than scheduled. I remember picking it up and playing it similar to how I play MvC2 and became very successful in 24 hours. My first team was Shulk, x23, and Phoenix. I remember within a week, I only lost 5% of online matches. I would call that very noob friendly. This game isn’t as noob friendly as tekken but when I compare it to MvC2, this shit is much easier to learn. MvC2 took me years to get good at while this game took me days. Now that most people have “mastered” the game (I.e. doom/nova/frank/wolverine/Dante/Vergil/Trish/sentinel/ghost rider/and probably 20 other characters’ downward attack spam), my win ratio is only about 80% now but I rarely lose to non spammers. I congratulate people who beat me with pure combos and don’t really rely on assists to win their battles (I.e. spamming strider, doom, sentinel, and many others). But my point is that compared to fighting game classics like MvC2 and Killer Instinct, MvC3 is extremely Noob friendly. I challenge a Noob to play MvC2 for a year and kill at least one of my characters - hell I’ll even use Roll and Servbot
So since you used skills from Marvel 2 this game is automatically noob friendly. The logic…