UMvC3 Stream & Commentary Thread v3

kinderparty and rikir play him

Kindergartenparty plays him well. Realpolitix also wasn’t bad, but i haven’t seen him in forever

Being able to beat/avoid the durability of Morrigan’s soul fists doesn’t mean the match-up is against her. The execution level of the current Morrigan players are not up to par yet. Every stray hit she is able to land on you should be able to lead into the opponent’s death. Too many lack of conversions at the moment stop that from happening.

Most neutral games which end up with Morrigan losing (assuming she doesn’t lose in the first few seconds) go like this: Morrigan runs away and starts her fireball game, opponent gets hit by a fireball or two, Morrigan uses her advantage to set up AV, opponent attempts to stall AV, opponent gets hit by missiles in the process. Somewhere along the line, Morrigan gets a hit, manages to convert into her BnB, only to leave the opponent alive and set up AV again. Eventually, Morrigan player makes a mistake, gets hit and dies. Neutral games shouldn’t last that long. Once you get the hit, opponent should be dead. Doesn’t matter what resources you have to spend (except XF).

Firedumb.

that doom combo by zak was sweet

My main team is actually Thor/Dr Strange/Amaterasu which is much stronger in neutral game than Thor/Missiles (Thormammu missiles is kind of like my flowchart team). But since it requires more execution and Xian (or anyone i played in the tournament) didnt counterpick my team with Mag/Beam or top 6 point+ top beam support i thought it was ok to continue playing with Missiles. Was about to change to Strange though

Fine then, the Chris I’ve been playing against every week for the past year is clearly not enough for me to conclude that Morrigan beats Chris. Fire grenades are irrelevant at close range when Morrigan can dash away from them, even after throwing two soul fist out in the air. Chris with Jam and Vajra obviously makes Morrigan be more careful, but since Chris is not AS fast as other characters and CANNOT teleport, I can either dash forward, unfly, and in some situations even just crouch to avoid Vajra. Jam Session, well, is Jam Session, the assist is overall great but without a teleporter or fast character (with the exception of Hawkeye) I don’t think I’d be worried about Chris with JS. Maybe I have to play GCYoshi or something to find the true power of Chris, since I don’t see eye to eye with the other Morrigan players:P

I’m salty too. Both of the potential Raleigh drivers dropped out the day before. I really wanted to be there.

@Oerba What team does the chris player you play against use? I only think the Chris matchup is that tough if he has jam session.

Can you link me to the morrigan combos that kill off every hit? Morrigan can only truly tod off of clean hits on 900k and below characters and thats with fully optimised combos + dhc. Most of morrigans conversions wont lead to death because they will nearly always have a Shell kick, st.H or j.L thrown into them which heavily scale hitstun and damage. Outside of TAC’s or spiral swords dhc, morrigan cant really tod off every hit.

Of course this isnt really a problem as morrigan is the king of chip and taking little chunks from far away that add up. But for those characters that can beat her durability wise and stall her astral well they do present a problem for her.

I find Chris to be irritating at all times with Morrigan, but only truly a nightmare when it’s Chris/Dante/Strider. Which is the most common Chris team I play against. Also probably his best team. That said, you can change up your team to counterpick that, but that typically means benching Doom.

Firebrand didn’t really do shit that match. That match showed all of the things we already know:

  • Doom is an amazing assist character
  • Doom with Ammy is an extremely potent duo that is VERY capable
  • Momentum is far too important in this game
  • X-Factor is fucking stupid

He plays Chris/Haggar/Sentinel

Why does it end at 3-3? Aren’t the FT BT sets normally FT4?

I wouldn’t say Firebrand did nothing. In fact, your third point is exactly what Firebrand’s job is on a team, and Zak’s Firebrand did just that in the majority of the matches. Momentum IS important, but it’s the characters that can gain that momentum effectively that have an advantage.

I think the point is he could simply replace Firebrand with a better characters and you really wouldn’t be missing anything.
I’m pretty sure you can do the same combo with Magneto on point too.
Firebrand is still meh… hope I’m proven wrong with results on the next majors though.

Firebrand is a great character, hardly ā€œmehā€. Mags would be an improvement but it wouldn’t really matter for the most part.

What did he do? Ok, he won the first game, but then was snuffed by SS very quickly. His FB did not gain momentum. Zak’s FB is arguably the best in the world, but that set did NOT prove your statement.

Being ā€œgreatā€ is not enough in this game.
Broken or nothing.

TFC pools are up. Dunno how set in stone they are or if big names will be registering on site and be added later, but here’s what I think will happen. Link: http://tfctournament.com/ultimate-marvel-vs-capcom-3/

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Pool 1: ChrisG over Pzpoy. Do I need to say anything more?
Pool 2: Flux over Meep. Sixfortyfive should do alright.
Pool 3: Asiandemon, Potatosalad, or Andre could make it out. Dunno who it will end up being.
Pool 4: Flocker in winners. Dunno who else in that pool is good.
Pool 5: Angelic over Insaynne.
Pool 6: I’d say it’s a tossup between JWong and Marvelo over who gets out in winners. Probably JWong, but I’d love for Marvelo to beat him.
Pool 7: PR Rog the ā€œretireeā€ in winners. I guess Pokchop in losers because I know he plays Zero, but who knows?
Pool 8: Champ over Unknown.
Pool 9: I guess Kresent and ShadyK will end up in pool winners finals? No clue about the others. ShadyK has the matchup edge with MorriDoom but being washed up as he is (Kidding, kidding) maybe Kresent could take him down.
Pool 10: Xian, RoachKing, and Jeopardy are the notable players in this pool. No clue who will end up beating who.
Pool 11: Knives over SumBrwnKid. Sorry Alukard, but 1. I gotta root for Georgia, and 2. SumBrwnKid’s Wolvie is disgusting. Maybe he can beat Knives, too? Here’s hoping.
Pool 12: JRosa and CJ Showstopper will probably end up in their pools winners finals with the loser facing DapVip. With the team Dap plays he could be a long shot but who knows? The dude is good and could pull off an upset.
Pool 13: MastaCJ over Marvisto. Felax and Psychochronic should do well but I don’t think they’ll get out of pools.
Pool 14: KBrad over Mono. Could be the other way around.
Pool 15: RayRay in winners, while NeoKarsh, Will Richards, or Sean Aquino could get out in losers.
Pool 16: Moooooooooooooons in winners. Dunno about the rest to say who gets out in losers.[/details]

Firebrand is broken.

Remix and OMGitzandre in the same pool, which is a matchup I never want to see.

Chris G and pzpoy sharing their pool, don’t know anyone elses names there.

Flocker’s pool looking free as hell.

Insaynne and Angelic together in pool 5.

Jwong and Marvelo in pool 6, oh shit.

Rog’s pool looks free.

Fchamp and Unkown sharing their pool, mitebcool.

Shadyk has a pool to himself, but will somehow still not make it out.

Xian and roachking pooled together, which sucks for roachking.

Alukard, sumbrwnkid and Knives making for a very interesting pool.

CJ, JRosa and DapVip in pool 12.

Pool 13 with a smorgasbord of almost-but-not-quite-high-tier players (Marvisto, Oreo, Masta CJ, Felax).

Kbrad is the only name I know in pool 14.

RayRay looks like he has his pool free.

Moonz is all I recognize in pool 16.

Really nice spread of players, I like these pools a lot.

Just wait for the next long Zak set where Firebrand lands the first hit more often.