His reach sucks, his higher-damage combos are impractical (does anyone ever use the boulder loop in real fights?) and he can’t really zone. His teleports are okay but nothing special, and certainly don’t make up for his bad reach/low health/low damage. I’ve seen cool training mode combo vids with him, but I’ve never seen said combos make it outside of training.
Midtier characters imo NEED assists to be effective, U/B can be translated to simply being airborne.
His Jump S is not an option select which makes it inferior to H option selects already. That and his
reach. Fyi, I can do the boulder trap consistently, I can even do it midscreen pretty reliably.
One that I will boldly refuse to elaborate on out of laziness.
Spencer is still way overrated though. I will just keep saying that until it registers.
his l button is bad , very bad yes
his h button? nope wild ripper is dirty and c.h stops air approaches even if assisted as he don’t get hit by beams or drones
he imo isn’t ment to be zoning at all I don’t think that’s what his moveset is for , but that’s just my view n tbh I’ve never tried to zone , you are prob right ,
I’ve done boulder loop online , yes ONLINE lol although I’ve prob dropped it half the time I got resets out of it , this isn’t because it’s to hard mind you , it’s just online
his teleport is basically a free way in ,and h burrow has the ability to make xf3 void as if he has enough bar he cannot be touched or could level 3 you for trying to press a button
the rest is kinda your problem
I’ve not seen these mad virgil combos outside the training room but I know its possible n I know I can’t say he dose low damage
excuse the poor grammar , phone post
I agree that RR needs assists to be effective as well. j.S doesn’t need to be an option select, it’s a large projectile and sj.S >rocket skates > j.S xN creates a wall of explosions for non projectile characters. Even on projectile characters I tend to do that if they are lingering in the air. Of course log trap is another option, or assist. I use vajra so that probably helps. I’m starting to think RR is better in the air more and more as I get used to him, he’d prefer to be fighting on the ground but he is pretty competent in the air, a lot due to his mobility you can also combo off of throws from anywhere with assists obviously as well.
being airbourne is a strategy that is useful against rocket, but I think it is far from a way to beat him. As a bonus, pendulum is pretty good at scooping up assists as well for happy birthday situations.
EDIT: Also as quicks said, you can h burrow around and make it safe with a mad hopper as long as you have meter, pretty effective in any situation you want to buy time.
RR is a charecter who seems to have the tools but no one has yet to put enough time into him to make him worth the lab time yet
watch the jap games/stream
What’s the current Akuma consensus? Haven’t seen much talk of him except for WTF Tatsu lately.
About people talking about Vergil:
Sword loops are used everywhere; if these aren’t high damage and done all the time than only XF3 Wesker ABC could be
Vergil has ridiculous range and some of the best DHC options, both ways
He has solid assists, and scary resets (Sword Storm resets look really good)
He is also good just about anywhere on a team
He can be safe on block and he can keep round trips up in blockstrings with assists through a glitch
Example (Not my video)
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Not to mention this glitch makes nice combos with Spiral Swords[/details]
Edit: I forgot about how he pretty much murders any anchor…
I think people overstate how unsafe Vergil is. His normals are technically unsafe but practically, their long reach leaves him pretty hard to punish a lot of the time.
I have watched those streams not impressed thus far
lol hey you never asked for something impressivewhistles
The fact that you can cancel into multiple things that keep him safe (the safest being getting them to block rising sun) makes it kind of a moot issue.
The issue isn’t so much how “unsafe” they are cuz almost nothing in Marvel is unsafe unless you can’t cancel or call an assist afterwards (like an unsafe launcher which you can only call assist during).
His bigger issue is that you can only cancel into supers on whiff when he’s not in DT. Which of course you unlock the ability to whiff cancel into specials when he’s in DT any way. If you’re whiffing with a character like Vergil…then you’re probably not very good with your fighting game spacing in general.
Watching streams there are some good ones, in particular “boy” really impresses me with his RR. He’s pretty solid with doing everything at the right time, though he is relentless with going for resets and never seems to go for the boulder loop.
Lol this.
I have hit people in Asgard from Metro City with that fucking sharp dhalsim sword.
Where is Ryu on this Tier List?
You mean the front page tier list? He’s there.
No sorry, I meant Ken.
I got mixed up.
I… I… I dont even have a gif for this comment o_O.
This is either an amazing troll attempt… actually that is all it could really be. Well played sir.