patches are easier. I get the impression that games today (all types) are designed with that in mind. So they kinda use the first several months after launch as a beta test.
The result is I feel the stop patching up some games before they are really finished.
Yeah I don’t know what the deal is with people saying the game is dead. I guess kids today aren’t made happy by playing a game.
Really though, fuck a MK9 approach to balancing things. Give us a couple of years to push the game hard and then consider if the place where we took the game is really all that bad.
Games aren’t meant to be played a couple of years anymore.
Except… their goal is to sell more games not produce something that will be everlasting with their assistance. That’s for the land of PC.
They’re going to do what they can immediately to keep the audience happy so they’ll buy something else they make down the road.
We probably weren’t meant to play MvC2 for a couple of years. It just so happened that it was the last game in the series so we were stuck with that and they didn’t make an MvC3 two years down the line. But we played that for a good 7-8 years straight and squeezed it about as dry as humanly possible. Only thing stopping the new games from lasting that long is the release of new games and/or the understanding of new players that if you really like a fighting game you’ll grind the ever loving hell out of it.
Rocket Raccoon.
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I might agree with you more if you would kindly change that avatar…
So I guess we better hope the title that finally kills fighting games again is a meaty one.
I’m certainly not playing this hot garbage for 8 years.
I didn’t care. He was good and I wasn’t killing myself to use him to his best extent.
You don’t have to, but instead of crying for a patch why not learn the match-up? Ultimate may not make the match-ups easy, but they are not unwinnable. I don’t believe many of these characters need buffs except maybe two. Maybe.
Having a third of the cast be great does not hold back any game, except maybe Guilty Gear. Third Strike, Marvel 2, Marvel 1, Alpha 2, and Alpha 3 all did fine. CvS2 did great even though A-Bison. A-Sak, any groove Blanka and Sagat were hands down the most dangerous in the game. Balance doesn’t make the game better or worse, but the consensus from the oldest and best players in the scene is that balance makes a game boring.
You can still use Zero against Vergil, or Dante, Morrigan, Akuma, etc. They can compete. I’ve used all these and beaten some pretty good Vergils.
Believe in? What are you, Sir Gallahad to a video game? Do you hear how silly this sounds? Play the game as it’s meant to be played. No maiden is going to come out and suck your dick because you stuck to whatever team you wanted to play. And picking a counter does not mean play top tier. Only those who lack reading comprehension, like yourself, would believe that.
I answered your entire post and you still haven’t told me why a low-execution/high-payout character is a bad idea. Incredible. This place is a cesspool.
Holy shit that AV makes me wish I was blind.
I used to block it lol. I can see why some forums have an option to not show animated avatars.
Im sad we didnt get DLC characters 
SFxT has a slim (extraordinarily slim) chance, and we know injustice and darkstalkers 4 wont be it.
Oh god, please don’t let it be Sony all stars…
i thought we were talking about fighting games here.
I’ve just noticed, you can no longer super jump after S by holding the S button, when did they patch that out?
it’s An option in the menue. Almost everyone turns it off.
You probably turned it off a long tone ago and forgot about it.
I wish more people would answer my question instead of noticing my avatar. But in the end egg is on my face because I know no one would have a real answer except that their character isn’t tops. Sigh.
So you’d leave an overpowered character with the most health, most damage, and best ranged options in the game because imbalance is a good thing?
Try reading the thread title and OP.
Even for characters that would go 3 or 4 out of 10 against a majority of the roster?
If you have anything to back this statement, I’d like to read it. Also name one balanced fighting game that’s considered boring because most of the roster is competitive.
I don’t think you understand what hard counter means. None of the characters you listed stop Vergil in the same fashion that Dorm stops Soul fist spam.
You picked characters that could easily be ranked top 10. You didn’t name any low tier characters that ‘counter’ Vergil and you’re making it obvious that you look down on people that want to play low tier characters competitively.
I don’t understand why you feel the need to be aggressive here after lecturing me on how to have a discussion on an online forum. You come to a thread that says “Patch/Balance Discussion” and proceed to shit on everyone for having an opinion related to patches and balance. I’ll repeat, this isn’t a game play discussion thread, this is a balance discussion thread, where people do something you seem to take issue with.
Are you purposefully ignoring the discussion that was happening when I asked my question so you come off as making sense? The title of the thread is pointless in context with the actual conversation taking place and we’re not getting a patch anyway so stick that wish up your ass.
It’s a small problem compounded by other small problems that make Vergil so great. Since you only opted to read a few select posts, complaining about being taken out of context is just silly. All of the discussions in this thread have something to do with the OP except you, who seems to throw the OP out and complain about how discussing balance issues is wrong on some fundamental level.