UMVC3 Patch/Balance Discussion *NO PATCH...but word is out of possible ALL CAPCOM VS game coming*

Classic Fighting Games Ultimate Marvel VS Capcom 3
781

Adding more gimmicks won’t make Shuma much better, despite that being an interesting idea.

782

and akumas

and missiles

and gold armored hsien ko

and lariat is still good.

so no, we dont need to buff any other anti air assists.

783

Not to mention, chaos dimension isn’t even that good, so it would be idiotic to go through all of that work to land the least damaging level 3 in the game

784

rework frame data, hsd and speed before anything else

785

Ive actually played some very good shumas… However idk id they actually go to tourneys lol

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786

People underrate Shuma-Gorath too much.

No one is going to say he’s good, but he has some stuff going for him.

I would only change a few things for him.

  • Mystic Smash hit-box increased, destroys projectiles on start-up.
  • Air-ground dash speed increased.
  • Mystic Stare eyeballs do not go away when he’s hit.
  • Shuma’s poses afterward his Supers can be canceled (so you don’t have to always watch through his poses and get punished for it).
787

Only two of those are legit really. You’re not going to call missiles as a defensive assist when getting rushed down, that’s asking to be happy birthday’d. Hsien ko while good requires her to actually become gold first. Tatsu and Lariat are the only two in that list you mentioned that come prepared to use right out the gate for said rush down situations. Variety adds to the game not hurt it.

788

it hurts when everyone was either packing tron or haggers assist by the end of vanilla mvc3.

i’ll take hidden missiles over invincible assists any day.

left/right mixup characters gets destroyed by invincible anti air assists.

789

I think we shoulda kept em like that… look what we have to deal with now… vergil… wesker… magneto?

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790

so we’ll deal with vergil/haggar, wesker/haggar, magneto/tron instead.

791

You have that due to lack of variety. As for the left/right mixup characters it wouldn’t be that easy to punish them. Considering most the anti airs in the game are just plain shoryu type moves that would still leave the person being rushed at a bad position of a bad call for happy birthday combos etc. They are there to get the opponent off you not to start you offense while you were helpless.

792

No dude I paid $40 for this game I wanna hit 8 buttons in a row, OTG super and do 70% life you big jerk!

793

Marvel is all footsies, its just Marvel footsies involve managing space in a 360 degree space around you, instead of just in front of your character.
Why is it that people tend to just throw fighting game basics out the window just because “ITZ MAHVEL BAYBEE”?

794

Ryu got the weakest lv3 in the game.

795

At least those can be combo’d into unlike She Hulk’s; she has the worse level 3 in the game. If your opponent has has x factor, don’t even bother using it.

796

Nemesis wins that. Short-ranged command grab without invincibility? Hello. At least She-Hulk’s does SOMETHING if it whiffs, and I think it packs some invincibility.

797

Hmm good point, but if you launch her after xfc you can get a full punish and dodge the car.

798

And you don’t have to XFC to punish Nemesis into a full combo due to the long recovery animation he has afterwards.

799

She-Hulk’s level 3 is actually pretty damn awesome. It forces tons of options selects that straight up lead to death.

It’s also the only command grab/projectile super in the game :D.

800

Is there no setup in which you can use it safely?