No offense, but it’s because you play Viper. That is one of Spencer’s only bad matchups. I don’t even think Haggar is a bad matchup for him anymore, since he can ground zipline through lariat and command grab him, plus wire grapple goes through pipe in many scenarios, etc.
A truly scary Spencer is harder to play than a scary Zero, but not harder than a scary Wolverine. Least with Zero you gotta have some execution, Spencer has those derp 80k grapple combos that aren’t even an SRK motion.
SF4 is just not my cup of tea. I don’t mean to be a hate, but I don’t like it. The only reason Im playing it now is because I like Abel and SF4 IS more fun that SFxT. I played Vanilla admittingly because it was the hype and Sagat and Honda made vanilla more acceptable for me (they did mad damage). It started sucking for me in Super, when I realized that the damage sucks and you can’t get much reward anymore. Sagat made it SEEM like you could and so did Honda, but overall, Footsies IMO is just not strong.
Maybe I have a bad understanding of footsies. I thought Footsies was the attempt to force your opponent to whiff and punish the whiff. Maybe I should read the SonicHurricane article again lol.
I’m sure Dante vs Spencer is 9-1 Spencer.
Nope.
Using derp on why x character is better than y is just lol
Personally I don’t find Spencer as annoying as fighting Zero.
Zero vs my team is basically never let that space midget touch me, or my entire team basically dies.
The number one reason why I despise Zero isn’t the fact that he kill you, it’s the fact that surviving his incoming mixups…is absurd. It doesn’t even matter if Zero can or cannot lighting loop. He basically takes complete control over the match if he hits you, and he got jam session. You can’t X-factor his pressure string, it’s hard to get out of the corner, and he is hard to block.
Spencer is annoying, but I don’t have to worry about my entire *****ing team dying like it’s 200% XvsSF combo video.
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Now add that with having UMVC3 retarded easy mode conversion, and fisher price mixups…you created a character that makes me jelly.
Took a while to post this, was makin lunch…
Right now I’m in a weird phase with my Marvel teams. I’ve basically settled on Dante/Strider as my core and continually juggle thirds that function well with their support. This experiment started with me swapping second Amaterasu with a point Viper and to date that has been one of the best decisions I’ve ever made because that bitch is faaaaantastic. [/Frank West]
The team is pretty much 3 BFFs that can do whatever they want with their synergy. Wouldn’t be surprised if them 3 go drinkin, get smashed and start singing Kumbaya every now and again with how well they go together.
The problem comes with my inate desire to “master” whatever game I’m playing and the flip flopping through a number of cool it theory teams that I haven’t put practice behind. That and the idea of having a legit counterpick team to fall back on when I have to play that card. Zero/Dante/Strider is pretty ridiculous but something still hasn’t clicked with me and Zero yet. Devil May Stride is a combo video team, but I can’t play Vergil like at all (which is fucking hilarious). That combined with the idea that he’s just too basic for me (like I do and feel my best when I’m winning with a character/characters I like and Vergil wins just leave me at half mast) really makes me say nope even though the team is pretty awesome overall.
See this guy know what’s good, Dante/Strider is the truth.
Anchor strider is as scrubby as hell.
Hence Vergil, Strider XF3, and Footdive.
Who would have thought!?
Ah o.k, yeah, there are a number of things that would give that team of Chris G’s problems, but no one really seems to abuse it. I mean Vergil + Vajra would be horrible for Morri / Doom to face.
I main Guy and he has multiple ways of landing ultra without Target Combo or without being in the corner but it’s character specific and it does big damage even with the target combo. Footsies can lend to big damage it just depends on the character in my opinion because with Guy one hit confirm with St.MP xx EX Honzanto FADC ultra can lead into a lot of damage or a counter hit crouching fierce into Ultra but that probably counts as a read.
Yeah alot of charcters have safe jump set ups with Ex I will tell you a few with Guy
Cr.lk, Cr.lk. Cr,lp, Target Combo xx Run Slide FADC Backdash into Forward Jump Roundhouse
Cr.Lp, Cr.LP, Target Combo xx Run Slide FADC Forward Dash Fake Cross up Elbow Drop or Cross Up J.MK or Unblockable Jump Roundhouse in the corner
So it’s really using the meter for FADC Safe Jump set ups
I will give you that what you said about the top players with good footsies losing to divekick characters but that just AE for you so I can agree on that
A lot of other characters rely on footsies in order to get damage (Guy, Cody, Ryu, Balrog, Bison, Vega, Chun Li etc) so you need to have good footsies with those characters in order to get some big damage you just can’t derp it out.
Can I PM you by the way so we finish this discussion I don’t want to derail the thread
So I’ve been running Joe/Doom/Strider as a side team, and man, I’m surprised that more people don’t play VJ. He has great zoning potential, a pizza cutter, decent health, a move that allows him to bypass mixups, Mach Speed, and he’s friggin Viewtiful! Sure, his damage is on the lower end of the spectrum, but that’s what TAC’s are for.
Yeah yeah, hold these Bageeras and Shere Khans while I get those high lows nigga. Kappa.
Either UMVC3’s netcode got better because i have no idea how I’m doing TOD’s of throws
Seriously fuck Strider. I think I lost almost every game we played where he survived the incoming mix-up. 
Kassy confirmed free to getting fisted by Spencer?
So i pop in P4A…player match
“R.I.P. P4A” and it’s just this room…with one guy and no one else…it’s like he’s waiting there…for no one to come.
Like the Skullgirls patch
RANS0M’s Strider is legitimately the weirdest effective one I’ve ever played against. He doesn’t do anything fancy, he just knows when to use Flash Step and close distances while calling the zoo on folks. I don’t think I’ve ever seen him do the Oki stuff with him.
LOL Flash Step.
i think i am gonna run point strider in my Chris dante strider team