UMvC3 - List of Changes

Mr.X · July 22, 2011, 5:24am

Game isn’t out yet so I’m really hoping no one will be.

As long as there aren’t characters as bad as the bottom of MvC3.

Zebster · July 22, 2011, 5:27am

More fireball shenanigans?

Nooneyouknow · July 22, 2011, 5:29am

Doubt it, but then all I saw were flight canceled Soul Fists. and unless flight gets faster, that’s as fast as they’ll ever get.

Zebster · July 22, 2011, 5:32am

Aw man. Teaches me to get excited over unconfirmed info.

Nooneyouknow · July 22, 2011, 5:35am

Hey, I’m impressed that fullscreen AV activation doesn’t get nailed with Legion arrows anymore, that’s pretty big right there. Might be fast enough to use mid combo now.

piskooooo · July 22, 2011, 5:35am

Someone before said Taskmaster Air H Arrows can’t OTG anymore. Please tell me that’s not true.

Lulu · July 22, 2011, 5:38am

Hopefully Thor got a Mjolnir Hammer toss special, in addition to other buffs.

axi0m · July 22, 2011, 5:42am

Hmmm, it was specifically mentioned on stream for someone to use Raging Demon “next time” interesting…

ThorMaster · July 22, 2011, 5:49am

Yeah Thor needs a hammer throw that wall bounces and a teleport. Also if Taskmaster cant OTG with H arrows that will be ridiculous.

MGIII · July 22, 2011, 5:55am

Bottom tier in Marvel 3 isn’t as hopeless against the rest of the cast as other games. You can still scrape wins if you know your characters’ combos and matchups, as long as the team synergy is on point and your execution is sound.

The reason being is the actual character out on the screen is only one half of the equation, and assists can make or break a character.

Danimals · July 22, 2011, 5:55am

DevilJin_01:

Yeah it depends on if the speed only accounts for the start up or if it most likely accounts for the actual speed of the drones. We’ll see on that.

The life Haggar lost was hardly a “chunk” LOL. It would be nice if it was a chunk. If by chunk you mean that 1/16th or 17th life he lost that basically got recharged by red health any way? Any good player will just call Haggar sparingly enough to not run out his red health like a scrub all the time.

The main problem with assists in this game is that they still release in a full active form unlike MVC2 even if the point character is hit. Which is why Haggar was so retarded. Even if you made a good read on your opponent and landed a hit…oh well Haggar is still giving the opponent a free ass combo breaker. Being able to kill assists by landing hits or forcing the opponent into a block string would solve the Haggar durp assist issue but Capcom’s not going to do that so at least this way you can still use him to protect you while having to have another assist for your combos. Just put another assist on the team that sets up combos without relying on something invincible for 60 frames.

A character was only really so good to begin with if the sole reason they are a character is for their assist. That worked in a game that was pretty much just shot out and played for 10 years like MVC2 but this is MVC3 where things can be done about things more quickly. That’s why I’m at least comfortable with using Doom as my “assist guy” because he’s actually worth a damn on point even without assists (more so with XF available). We don’t know everything about Haggar yet so they could have improved his point game to make up for the nerf. That could change a lot too.

I’m sorry but being able to have access to an assist that comes out in full active form with 60 frames of invincibility and hard knockdown properties even if you make contact with the point character (as long as they called it first which isn’t hard to do) is stupid. Why do I have to fight a character with an assist where it makes absolutely no difference whether I make a good read on their defense or not and then puts me in a full combo if I don’t sit there and block and put myself in a mix up?

I’d rather they make Haggar stronger on point as a reward for getting his lariat nerfed. That would be fine then having to work around Haggar assist all day just so you end up in unfavorable situations all the time against it any way.

Agreed soooo much. I’ve played Richard Nguyen a fair number of times, and it’s so fucking stupid that my only opening is during that tiny assist cooldown period. I’ve pretty much been trained now to not go for what would normally be obvious holes in defense because Haggar assist will put my ass in a combo.

DevilJin_01 · July 22, 2011, 5:56am

I was messing around with Morrigan’s start up of astral vision and it’s mostly mitigated by just putting flight cancelled soul fists on screen and then going into the super. The faster start up is nice either way though. Means you’ll be able to get it out either way.

Captan_Soviet · July 22, 2011, 6:02am

The mag flight combo seems to still work. Anybody got dante and wesker info?

The_Invincible_Swordsman · July 22, 2011, 6:04am

IDK. I been watching the stream literally all day. And some of the things haven’t been matching up with what I’m seeing.

“Magneto’s dash is slower?” Uhhhh… looks like bullshit to me.
“No more magic pixel?” DEFINITELY bullshit right there.
“Sentinel doing less damage”? More bullshit.

This has been THE INVINCIBLE SWORDSMAN saying:

Are you guys watching the streams at all?

Mr.X · July 22, 2011, 6:07am

Shit is gonna change from build to build to release version.

DevilJin_01 · July 22, 2011, 6:07am

Yeah I doubt they would nerf Magneto’s dash that much considering Capcom wanted to assure people that he would be as fast or faster than his MVC2 version. I thought the whole reason they wanted to make Magneto fast was so MVC2 fans wouldn’t cry? LOL. I’m glad his disruptah got toned. Shit gave him a better zone game than most of the zoning characters. :shake:

Dont_Jump · July 22, 2011, 6:09am

Any info on Dante? The fact that everything that character does can be made safe is pretty annoying.

Galz · July 22, 2011, 6:09am

How exactly is the DHC glitch fixed? Does the character not spin out, or is there no more damage reset

Saionide · July 22, 2011, 6:10am

Chris land mine seems faster.

also viewtiful joe has a move that allows him to hover over low attacks?

Mr.X · July 22, 2011, 6:10am

No damage or hitstun reset, still spins