UMvC3 List of C. Viper Changes

Zero is the same as Dante, you can take them to an extremely advanced level. But also like Dante, they are devastatingly powerful at the derp level.

The fact that I beat anybody with my Zero is proof.

Dante is the easiest of that group by a large margin, I usually put him at the top of the medium difficulty characters.

Yes true dante’s easy things are easy but his advanced combos are quite difficult and it’s the only way I wish to play him. Amateratsu is similar in that she is has deep things about her but her basic stuff is really powerful and is what we mostly see from her.

Question for Chrisis: How easy is it to perform Tk feints on hit. is there a wider period of time to feint and combo after as opposed to vanilla?
Can you give me frames yet or are you still in the dark on that?

Dante’s advanced stuff isn’t even that bad. If you haven’t played alot of high execution characters before it can be intimidating, but with Dante it’s really more a matter of teaching your fingers to go where you want them to without tying your hands in knots. After you get that down it’s not that bad. He’s got alot of inputs but none of it is that bad.

Maybe I’ll pick him up again for ultimate, he seems to be viper’s best partner and I ll just use Amateratsu on My firebrand frank team.

Actually, as I was saying before, it would appear we have alot more options. Perhaps the biggest reason Viper likes dante is for it’s AA properties the fact that it doubles as lockdown is an added bonues. But since we have more AA options in Ultimate, we can use other lockdown assists (or whatever) more readily, so I would say Cold Star is more viable. For example, in Vanilla if you had Viper/Dante adding Cold Star won’t help much because it’s pulling double duty, but in Ultimate you could run something like Viper/Hawkeye at which point Cold Star is much more valuable.

I think Viper/Hawkeye is gonna be awesome. both look really good seperately and Hawkeye adds alot to Viper’s game. You can his horizontal assist or his arrow rain assist. Ii am worried about the arrow rain assist whiffing in the corner though. I feel Doom’ missiles is alot better still. Also Hawkeye’s poison arrow is the assist im looking forward to the most

Ehhh Dantes advanced combos I wouldn’t call “quite difficult”. They are harder than a majority of the cast but they aren’t exactly difficult at all.

Meter gain is now reportedly nerfed to 80% and not 90% that will be a big nerf to Viper.

Wait, seriously? Where is this coming from?

I can’t confirm, but he said it was from comparing Ultimate vids to Vanilla.

tk feints are very easy, if you do a tk > ex.tk too fast you will feint it. i had to slow down my ex.tk in order NOT to feint.

ps. optic blast is sick, get use to playing like zero while full screen :>

Can you provide more details about the optic blast?

Can you Optic cancel into Seismo like you can do with the Focus Attack?
Also, how long does it take to charge?

I can’t wait till tuesday.

You can’t cancel any of her special moves into optic blast, and you can’t use your special moves to cancel out of optic blast either. I think the only thing you could do is Optic Blast -> Super. Tried jump canceling it and it doesn’t work.

You can charge it up before the match starts though lol.

So all you can do is cancel normals into the optics?

Yes.

Can you Seismo JC Optic?

Yes you can.

Roughly how many real seconds to charge it? I heard it was somewhat lengthy in the early builds.

It takes about 1.5 seconds I guess. The good thing is after she uses the attack, she can charge it again right away. When she’s done with the whole animation, you can pretty much fire it again. And you can’t crouch and optic blast lol.