UMvC3 General Discussion: You can't control it

But I like LV3 j.S ground bounce. :sad:

Well yeah, Lv3 is definitely really good. I just feel like Frank isn’t truly “derp” (as in, don’t need to think, just press buttons and magic will happen) until he gets to Lv4.

Some things I did recently with Ammy:

Made Zero fear his own buster.
Killed Dark Wesker and a point Chris with their own bullet.
Poisoned, froze, and netted me a Hawkeye.
Hog-tied Ghost Rider and force-fed him chain.
Overruled Phoenix Wright’s objection and had him thrown in jail for contempt of court (Fleece Johnson got dat ass too… poor PWright).

Capcom may have hurt you but you can still make people look bad. <3 Ammy.

Wright tip. The game wont let you have 3 bad pieces of evidence. So get to three eliminate two. Ya know

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I love how everyone was calling Swiss Cheese completely useless altogether as a move when it was first shown and now it turns out that it’s capable of an infinite.
Gentlemen… the Cheese Wheel infinite.

Can’t Lei-Lei do all those things too?

Yes, although Ammy’s reflector is arguably better. Rei Rei also can’t counter Rider’s chains.

Though damn, making Hawkeye eat arrows is fun.

That’s cool. I was playing around with her trying to figure out what I could stuff. I tend to lose alot due to people throwing stuff at me so I figured a reflector move would be useful. It doesn’t seem to work against beams though, so that’s a problem.

What about assist projectiles?

Yeah, it’ll reflect assist projectiles (though I’m going to edit this and say that I’m mostly sure it does).

It actually does “work” against beams, though it doesn’t reflect them. It just nullifies them.

Rapid fire projectiles like Chris’ SMG, Pool’s Happy Trigger, and the like will be nullified because the bullets clash. Occasionally, one or two bullets might escape and hit the opponent.

Also, for some reason, Gong will just decide not to reflect Wesker’s gunshot. Prepare to see that.

Here’s a list of how Gong reacts to the new characters’ projectiles from the LL forums. I would link the video of her reflecting stuff from Vanilla, but some stuff is more reflectable/nulled in Ultimate that wasn’t before like Trish’s :h: Low Voltage (some of it is reflected, anyway. It used to all be nulled):

[details=Spoiler]Nemesis

-Rocket launcher explodes on contact. Similar to phoenix tk shots

Ghost Rider
-Nullifies judgement strike

Dr. Strange
-Reflects flames of the faltine(also with yellow glyphs), daggers of denak, and mystic sword.
-nullifies flames of the faltine(red glyph beam), bolts of balzack
-eye of agamotto rips through it

Rocket Raccoon
-reflects spitfire
-nullifies st.H lasers, mr.flapper and pendulum

Nova
-Nullifies all versions of gravimetric pulse and energy javelin

Vergil
-Judgement cut rips through it
-nullifies round trip

Firebrand
-Reflect L and M hell spitfire
-nullifies H hell spitfire

Frank West
-All levels of object toss are reflectable
-nullifies hammer throw
-giant swing rips through it
-snapshot rips through it

Strider Hiryu
-Reflects formation a1, a2, and b(satellite)
-nullifies formation c(bomb)

Phoenix Wright
-Maya Shield nullifies gong
-Maya slide rips through it
-reflects evidence discard
-nullifies all versions of paperwork storm(high and low). In turnabout mode, paperwork will rip through it.
-nullifies “get 'em, missile!”
-reflects most types of evidence presented in trial mode/turnabout mode. Nullifies file folder and photo

Hawkeye
-f+M rips through
-reflects st.H arrows, greyhound, spritzer, violet fizz(hawkeye also gets poisoned), ice breaker, rusty nail
-nullifies hunter, most of kamikaze(you’ll still get hit by a couple arrows), H ragtime shot
-jack rose will explode on contact. the explosion is unaffected by the gong once the arrow is set on stage.[/details]

This happens to me all the time with IF, so many lost games :(. I switched to Quick Kick > Dragon’s Tail to avoid this problem.

played a few matches today…i was litterly in the laggest match i ever been in in my entire FG life. im thinking he had a lag stwich because a. it only lag when it seem like i was bout to win. b. he had hulk on point.
also idk if this is a glitch but since it was so laggy i must had press xfactor on accident my xfactor was gone…however i didn’t see the xfactor activate or anything cause the lag was terrible. might just be i forgot about activating it but i don’t activate xfactor right away…

also nemesis hits HARD. he is definitely for those that want easy TOD combos. soon as he lands a hit on you he can do up to a million dmg with assists/hypers/DHC…this one guy…he was ass but when he hit me with nemesis he used wesker assist and finished the combo with missle hyper…dhc into dorms stalking flame…killed wesker OFF ONE HIT. i know this game can do that but like…the other guy wasn’t that good (my doom was fucking him up in lag) and i could tell. tho that might just me being salty

He’s still got his tornado claw loops and thus infinte. Just because SC is capable of an inf with a set specific assist (spencer) does not somehow completely validate it outside of the said loop. Furthermore, it seems rather situational outside the specific assist with the larger characters. But nonetheless I will come to it’s defense and say that SC catches alot of shit, including normal/s jumpers and those blind rushdown types. With it he can consume some decent pressure from all directions and remount his own. The fact that it’s fully comboable afterwards is the icing on the cake.

Even without the infinite Swiss Cheese was never a useless move, Y2Jay used it effectively in the last WNF. It beats a ton of stuff and you can combo off it.

I knew the minute I saw him he wasn’t made with tourney play in mind. He’s the new servbot, the character your drunk mates don’t want to lose to with his stubby normals and humiliating hypers. ‘Naw man, just got my ass kicked by a teenage girl. AW SHIT I DIDN’T DO NOTHING, I’VE BEEN FRAMED.’

The point of the game is fun, and Wright is definitely fun.

Pre-release: “Lawl, Swiss Cheese is the worst move ever, It’ll only nerf mashers.”

It’s always Wolverine that contradicts people’s predictions isn’t it? Soon as someone says he can’t do something he just goes UNACCEPTABLE and releases more derp.

doesnt this infinite only work on large characters???

I’ll admit though the first time I saw the infinite kill Nemesis I was half expecting the screen to fade into a still drawing, giant Japanese words appearing on the screen and the announcer yelling the words out saying HOKUTO HYAKURETSU CHEESE!!!

You are already derp.

Strider went from “meh” to “oh god i love this guy” for me. Seriously, he’s a lot of fun to use and now I love watching people be creative with him.

…I think I found the third member that I was looking for for Frank.

Ok so I’ve got all but 5 of the H&H cards figured out. Can anyone tell me who these last 5 guys are?

Spoiler

http://i43.tinypic.com/b47nn7.png

EDIT: Got 'em, thanks forum dudes!

The 4th one is the final boss of some Breath of Fire games, I heard, but I forgot her name.

Second one could be Odin?