There’ s a reason I call her SeXy-23
Weirdly enough, I always forget I have assists. Maybe its bc I’ve seen/done too many happy birthdays
Which reminds me, I need a TOD combo for Nemesis:sweat:
Which is why X-23 is my favorite marvel female…and not just because she’s hot…well maybe. The only reason I would ever play stick is if i had that X-23 stick in my position. Too bad I only know her basics.
Highest damage combo so far with Nemesis Without assists XF or DHC is mine (see Nemesis T-Type combo thread) (at least in my knowledge) is 802,000 so it’ll be ToD on Akuma, Strider, Phoenix (big surprise) and anybody whos at 800,000 for 1 meter. That combo builds 1 meter anyways so a DHC will probably get you in the 850-950 range. So you’ll kill most characters with it.
Trust me, the way everything works out. It’s a lot different. If I had some matches on my HD I’d show you.
No, I mean a TOD combo against Nemesis so I dont have to deal with that bullshit lol. So far, my best is 1,106,000. Damn 44k:(
i would try x-23 but it feels liek you input her moves like 3 times faster then everyone else’s for some odd reason.
I love her design but i don’t think im good enough. then when i heard you actually use mirage feint h for combos9 a short hop the you can input moves during) not practical but for cool points i guess, i lol’d and chose another character.
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God damn I hate Vergil. Played some guy in player matches who ran skrull/ryu/spencer, and I played my team of PW/Ammy/FW. I beat him first round without losing a character. He swaps out Skrull for Vergil and the shit begins. The connection was decent, however with Vergil’s wacky teleports you need to be blocking in that direction either before or right as the teleport goes. So you basically have to predict it, and since he has three different teleports, and they all track, its like a freaking mixup. He then proceeded to beat me in the next two games, with ALOT of happy birthday’s on me (which I admit is my fault), all with mr trenchcoat himself.
BUT I got my revenge. I then did a quick ranked match against an IF/Vergil/???, once again using my PW/Ammy/FW team. Once again this guy just spams shit over and over with vergil. In the end its my turnabout wright with XF3 vs. his Vergil, and I knew Vergil loved to press his buttons so of course I hit him with Wright’s godlike level 3.
It was not the same guy who played Vergil earlier but I like to Trenchcoats not so much by the people who play them but more by the cheapness of the character.
Same. He’s the main reason I wanted to play MvC3 (but not the reason why I’m still playing it). If Wesker wasn’t an asshole in this game, then Capcom did him dirty.
Er, I acknowledged all this in my main post though (albeit summarized). It’s not that you don’t improve when playing Wesker, it’s just you’re improving on the basis of zoning/blocking/setups rather than on advanced execution.
But when you’re playing other characters at the same level of power, you’re improving in all the aspects that you just mentioned + you’re getting stronger combos/seeing highly visible results of getting better.
Though, as you mentioned the above comes with a time penalty. You have to spent time in training mode to get combos down with the other characters. Getting to the point where you can use the more advanced stuff in actual matches (or god forbid online) means you have to have the execution down to a a science. Which takes a lot of time.
Probably a large factor to consider is how long you’ll be playing the game overall. If you intend to play the game for a year or more, you almost have to bite the bullet and learn the more advanced shit with other characters. Barring some weird undiscovered tech, Wesker is going to continue to weaken compared to the other top tiers - because people’s execution with the other top tiers will improve, whereas Wesker will stay mostly the same.
Wesker might end up being the Iceman of UMvC3 when it’s all said and done. Amazing early in the game’s life, but ends up falling way behind in the end.
Elaborate on this a bit, I mean I just started reading it and so far I’m finding it to be pretty interesting with X-23. The art-style is kind of weird but it’s cool knowing X-23’s origins and stuff. Also the prostitute thing makes me sympathize with her and I no longer see her as a spoiled Wolverine-wannabe brat.
x-23 being silent the whole time is cool but its actually not her origin.
you don’t learn about the important things such as the reason one of her hypers is called rage trigger.
nyx was an after thought and comes chronologically after innocence lost and target-x
those two alone are enough to get rid of the wolverine-wannabe brat thing.
my issue with nyx are its second spin-off no way home, the characters, art style, and general random and incompleteness.
if anything the image of her in that is worse than i had of her, the typical emotionally harmed girl who cuts her self?
I mean really?
x-23’s only relevance there is that its the first time she appears in comics, but it fits least in with everything else she actually appears in. and i was just persoanlly dissatisfied with no way homes ending because if im not mistaken it [details=Spoiler] just ends with no closure just the idea that they keep running when in actuality x-23 goes off to the xavier institute and such[/details] but please excuse me if im remembering incorrectly. i read it around reading good stuff like the runaways ( DONT EVEN GET ME STARTED ON VOLUME 3 OF THAT SHIT art style change and generally a WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED thing). and theyoung avengers
That wouldn’t happen, Wesker is beatable but the idea that he can ever be easily beaten is hilarious. What big weaknesses does he has? There are those who can zone him out for a while and those who beat him in rushdown but when he does so much damage with easy combos, has so many tools and have more health than most characters who in the game has remotely a 7-3 matchup odds against Wesker? At worst I think he will be the MvC2 Storm of this game, there will be Sentinels that have more derp things than him and Magnetos + Cables who are almost as stupid as him but he is just far too all rounded to fall behind as much as people hope he will.
As long as ABCS BBCS is easier than ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ Wesker will remain top tier
Well for one wesker does struggle getting in on a good keep away(which is trying to be implemented in this game), couple that with the fact that he can’t control the top right corner of the screen(where trish and firebrand reign supreme) and it doesn’t seem too far fetched to believe that he might become the iceman of this game. Im not saying he will, Im not saying he won’t Im just saying its really not that far fetched. If you really stop and think about it, wesker did get nerfed in this game, sure he gets a devil trigger when he takes the shades off, but he got that in exchange for full screen hit confirms and 100k points of health(the difference between captain america and nemesis in terms of health).
My point being, if wesker in ultimate is better than his vanilla iteration, its really not by much and people are definitely overvaluing the guy right now. Forgoing kills to save their x-factor for wesker? Letting characters die so wesker comes in with lvl 3 x-factor? Hard tagging him out and sacrificing your teammates health? Peeps be treating him like phoenix, when the fact is he really isn’t.
Wesker is a beast when he gets in, no one in their right mind will ever argue that, amazing normals, amazing mix-up, amazing resets, a sick command grab and damage out the ass, but I can see him struggling to get in as the game develops. Just my 2 cents. And for sure I know, not think but know that 3 months down the line he won’t be as popular anymore. He might still be considered the best, but I have very little doubt the hype woulda gone down. There are still a TON of amazing characters people have barely touched like zero, captain america(peeps sleeping on the captain), and doom(on the east coast at least) to name a few.
Finally, unlike OG sentinel, the original problem, wesker is only a beast when he is on point, he wasn’t blessed with a game changing assist. So there are actual reasons to not have him on your team, unlike OG sentinel(amazing on point, amazing damage, amazing health, amazing assist, no reason not to pick him).
Sorry for the wall of text, just needed to get that off my chest.
Tip for people learning Shuma:
jump cancels are the key to his success.
Zoners can keep him out and take away a good chunk of his health, but when 1 hit = death for any zoner I think it’s hard to argue that he loses to any of them. I air throw too = death for anyone camping in the top right corner of the screen, what are the odds they can stay there long enough to defeat Wesker?
Not really, weskers most damaging pre glasses combos do like 600k(which wouldn’t even kill strider), while his most damaging glasses less combos equal about 800k. Thats a 1 hit kill on a total of 5 characters. And no, 1 air throw doesn’t kill anyone not named phoenix without either a level 3 or x-factor, air throws scale like no mans business. Trish actually gives wesker headaches, ask around, there really isn’t much he can do against her up close or full screen. Im telling you man, people spent a lot of time learning anti wolvie, sentinel and phoenix strats in vanilla, give it about a month and people will learn anti-wesker shit. You’ll be surprised how many people don’t even know his teleports aren’t safe.
Like I said, he will always be top tier, worst case scenario is top 10-15, but I have no doubt he isn’t gonna dominate for the games life span unless wesker play actually evolves, which I really don’t see happening tbh.