Yes, but characters like Rose and Seth who have safe ultras on block still have this, and it will obviously shoot them up the tier list, since a mixup can occur now with the do I block the fb and risk getting hit by the ultra, or do I take the fireball and avoid it. (Actually, I am pretty sure that most of the ultras in the game would combo with a hit fireball even without the ultra unblockable flash…)
yeah just dont read the thread.
I don’t know you either.
Brother, I’ve read the thread from the beginning and that wasn’t brought up. So why say what you did to me?
Rose’s Ultra is safe? Last I checked it was -37 on block.
What needs to be tested is if you can just-defend the fireball or not and get an OS, and also if this applies to everyone or just Sagat’s setup.
Yeah, my bad, I was thinking from max range and only within my characters ability to punish it.
Still though, the guessing game does exist…
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Yeah you’re pretty much illiterate.
This explains a lot. I figured this game is retarded when at times I know I am pressing back and i still get hit.
couldnt you just wake up backdash, causing the projectile to hit and forcing you to flip in the air, thus making the ultra whiff?
yeah… great. Now everyone is gonna start blaming their fail on this…
Just… don’t.
@Shytzoo, yes, that’s possible. Look at Jinrai’s notes
I can’t upload a video, but Dhalsim can also make his Ultra unblockable! You just need to do a backthrow at the right distance from a corner. Really situational, but it still works.
I can see the use for fireball characters going up from these new set-ups…ALOT. Its definitely worth trying to perfect and put into actual gameplay. I wonder if this would work for the charge fireball characters.
Now we need to find a new exploit for pure physic characters. XD
Hmm, okay, I did miss that line. My bad. But that doesn’t mean you have to be a dick about it.
same thought here, Frames of invincibility, different distance might make it whiff except Seths ultra.
Yeah, you can’t block before or after the flash against Rose’s setup, it’s just Sagat’s setup that is garbage. But yes you can also just backdash out of Rose’s setup.
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I think this wasnt confirmed for us Seth players because we wouldnt just full screen ultra unless on whiffed move…
hmm…
Well, at least rose is safe from punishment if the full ultra whiffs. I wonder if Ken is safe from the backdash to prevent punishment.
I see, so you just get reseted because of the airborne state in dashes.
That fucking sucks. i always said backdash is too powerful in this game. (Looks at gouken backdashing through fireballs)
Does the corner take out the backdash situation? Another thing, even though it can now be defended against from backdashing, it now turns into a footsie thing or getting into the player’s head. Usually someone would try to use a wake-up attack. Maybe now some are punished for trying to do a wake-up attack. Or I could be wrong, XD.
Corner does not solve the backdash issue on most cases. Reset state is invulnerable, so the Ultra just whiffs right through the character