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did you just ask for Twelve to be in another game? he already shits up what is already one great game, don’t let him shit up this one too. like, look at this asshole character:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMJzG1KS-ZU

no farther in that round 2 and you already know he’s the worst thing to ever happen to the series

you don’t know what you’re asking. he has brought me enough pain in my life already. don’t wish this plague upon us again.

Yeah… If we’re removing crouch tech, I want a throw invincible move for Makoto and overall a bit of a nerf to most kara throws.
People learned to play around crouch tech tho, I don’t think it’s that much of a problem.

The difference being just slapping a guard meter on SF4 in its current form would hardly replicate the same sort of situations as present in the games featuring a guard meter. As someone above me said, all it’s really gonna do is give defenders more incentive to YOLO DP out of pressure strings than they already do.

Though it would be a massive buff for Dudley lol

Twelve is IMO a darkstalkers character and as such should be in DS4 if they ever make it. Necro and Oro as well but to a lesser extent IMO feel Darkstalkery in both art design and gameplay design. Necro however is CLEARLY a DarkStalkers design.

Personally I think that if they ever made DS4 they should put Twelve, SonSon(MvC2), Ruby Heart (MvC2) and Amingo (MvC2) into it because they all feel like they deserve a place in the DS universe storyline and gameplaywise they fit. (ESP SonSon/Ruby Heart)


If guard break was added they’d need to increase pushback on block for most moves. If you look at CvS2 or Alpha you rarely got more than 2 attacks in before you were pushed back out (Unless you were a character who specifically could avoid that like Blanka or Sakura or any character using a CC.) plus every game with a guard break USUALLY has an alpha counter option of some flavor.

Rolento’s theme is gonna be fuckin’ sweet.

Of course, he is horrible. The worst actual character in a game. But say if Capcom had put every wanted character in and then decided to put other characters in then those with no love deserve a chance. They made Dan pretty awesome from being the literal joke to which he still is. It would not hurt much to put the uncool ones in like Q, Twelve and Necro (uncool considering from Capcom). At any case, it would be better than a shoto, a doll or a freaking powered up version of some old character. It would not even have to be Twelve, it could be Nine or some prototype version that was even better. Plus who does not want to know who the heck Q is? Certified rapist? Man in candy van? Or Chun Li’s dad? Or all three. Only time may tell…

All things considering, it would be interesting and of course this kind of stuff would probably only happen in 2027 or something. So do not fret.

I am guessing that the characters everyone wants are Karin, Charlie, Alex, some doll(?). To be honest, I would rather see certain EX characters make it before the favourites though. Knock off gooey aliens, masked rapists and snobby school girls… Skullomania is on da way.

The problem with Twelve isn’t that he is “uncool” the problem with twelve is that he shits on the concept of ground based fundamentals and footsies. He is an air dash fighter in the wrong game.

Well I mean in that basis. Just revamp him or something. It could work anyhow. He would work well in a crossover at any case.

You know, if we can have Viper in street fighter, Twelve isn’t shocking anymore.

Twelve is worse than Viper in many ways. Viper is a KOF character (Same with Abel and Hakan actually. Most of the new characters feel like they would be at home in a KOF game.) KOF at least shares some roots with SF in how the ground game works but it’s just more mixup oriented and faster. Twelve is a darkstalkers character which is fine in the context of a darkstalkers game, but it doesn’t really work in SF. Darkstalkers is all about speed and a large variety of mobility options (BB Hood with her double jump, Hsienko with her air run / teleport dash / pendulum cancels. Morrigan with her off the ground dashes for instant overheads and her air dashes. Raptor with his crawl. Anakaris with his dive kicks, weird jump, and ability to switch sides by backdashing when against the wall of the stage. ect ect) twelves glide cancel pressure, crawl, IADash and general mixup style are far more suited to a game like DS than a game like SF where the original mantra was “Don’t jump”

If you are going to revamp him why not just make a new character? He isn’t exactly full of personality being a single color faceless blob monster. If you are going to rework how he is designed from a gameplay perspective to any degree that it would actually matter then you might as well just make a new and better character.

Viper, yes but Abel KOF character?

SFxT Abel is a kof character

I think Warzard is a game that could yield a character or two that would fit wonderfully in DS. Tessa the witch would fit perfectly, possibly Leo the lionman could fit. Maybe Huazer, Hydron, Ravange. Lavia would be awesome.

Im not sure how much insider info he’s got, but I was watching Max & Gootecks vs The World and Gootecks said he’s been heard that the 5th character is gonna be disappointing. Not sure if he talks to combofiend or haunts that much though.

Im hoping the 5th character wont be disappointing, but ive been expecting it.

i don’t play sfxt, so i don’t know about how he play in that game.
but i am really curious what make Abel like a KOF character

Combofiend has been on cross counter tv quite a bit from what I’ve seen, it seems like they’re pretty friendly. I’m just curious what would count as disappointing to him? If he’s like most of you the idea of another doll doesn’t sound too great so I’m guessing that’s most likely what it is. I personally like the idea of decapre, a cammy/vega fusion sounds pretty damn cool.

As someone who loves Vampire savior quite a bit and used to play the game a lot let me address these.

Twelve=Hell no, brings nothing to the table and is an awful design. He should never be in another game again.

Necro=A poor Dhalsim/Blanka hybrid. Not worthy of inclusion in DS franchise.

Oro=An unbound/full power Oro could be a great fit for DS4. Ancient hermit story fits in nicely, he’s a fantastic design.

Amingo=One of the most offensive characters I’ve ever come across. A fat sombrero wearing Mexican with maracas? Also his cactus dash is a lame copy of Talbain (gallon’s) beast cannon. Don’t want to see him in another game.

Ruby Heart=A solid design and interesting character. However don’t think a piratelady fits in with the dark monster/hunter theme of the series.

SonSon=Kind of meh design but can be expanded upon. A monkeygirl is a great fit for the darkstalkers series.

In addition I would like Lilith to be removed instead Morrigan becomes True Morrigan (Full power morrigan after absorbing Lilith). She would have the best traits of both. Morrigan’s air dashes, Lilith’s super jump, specials from both, supers from both.

Then add full grown Anita, the savior of light. Have marionette return but as a real character with her own moves. Then maybe 10 brand newly created darkstalkers and DS4 would be set.

Tessa and Leo from Red Earth would be awesome DS characters in my opinion.

He says the 5th character will be disappointing because it’s not Alex or Karin obviously, so the many many many many many people who desire these characters will be disappointed.

Also V will be compared to Juri and Hakan who are very popular for new characters.

I like your avatar… are you also hoping SF gets released for Linux?
Anyway, I think that Evil Cammy (Decapre) is a likely possibility, and if she turns out to be a Vega/Cammy hybrid, all the better! It’ll be interesting to see how a hybrid charge/fb character plays… I would be very happy if it’s Decapre… out of all the possible characters it could be (which is not that many), I’m most excited for her.

http://mugen.wikia.com/wiki/Decapre